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Subject: Does anyone agree?
Written By: Donnie Darko on 05/14/06 at 11:02 pm
That 2006 is the first year that feels removed from the 1990s?
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/14/06 at 11:03 pm
That 2006 is the first year that feels removed from the 1990s?
In what way? In that all '90s influence is gone, nearly?
I think the first really '90s-removed year was about 03-04, but what we're in now is the equivalent to what happened in 1986, when the '70s was totally gone.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:03 pm
No that was 2004.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/14/06 at 11:11 pm
No.
By 2004, it was clear that the 1990s were gone. FRIENDS ended that year. But 2006 is the first year in which all of the 1990s is some time ago. Even 1999 is 7 years ago.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Also, even mid 2001, the last sorta '90s vibing period, is about five years ago, which is a long time in pop culture.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:14 pm
No.
By 2004, it was clear that the 1990s were gone. FRIENDS ended that year. But 2006 is the first year in which all of the 1990s is some time ago. Even 1999 is 7 years ago.
Oh I see what you mean, yea it does feel like a while ago now. Even 2000 does really.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:20 pm
Would you say that the beginning of 2001 felt like the '90s, whereas the end of 2001 absolutely did not? That's sort of my reflection.
I don't know if it felt exactly like the '90s, it felt like the millennium timeperiod still not really '90s not '00s yet either, but by late '01 it was definitely '00s.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:27 pm
Yeah it was its own little era. But because it began in the calendar 1990s I tend to think of it as "Nineties", even if it's almost nothing like the "real '90s" of late 1991-1998.
Yea I used to say it was '90s, but it is true that 1999 and 2000 were quite a bit different from the true '90s. 1999 is when the teen pop really blew up and all the old stuff really died out, then latin pop blew up to in '99. Modern hip-hop also took over in 1999 with Jay-Z and Eminem. However 1999-early 2001 are also a lot different than the true '00s. So really it's really like a separate era in between the two decades.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/14/06 at 11:28 pm
Would you say that the beginning of 2001 felt like the '90s, whereas the end of 2001 absolutely did not? That's sort of my reflection.
I think mid 1999-mid 2001 was its own "late late '90s", the way that mid 1989-mid 1991 were the "late late '80s"...to me, Jan. 2001 still had sort of a '90s feeling to it, while Dec. 2001 did not at all. Even though in 2000-2001 I already noticed pop cultural changes, with reality TV and all.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: GoodRedShirt on 05/14/06 at 11:37 pm
2004.
1999-2002/3 was a pretty dull period, so 2004 is when things really changed for the better (or worse?) (Of course I'm speaking musically here)
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: Marty McFly on 05/14/06 at 11:45 pm
That 2006 is the first year that feels removed from the 1990s?
I think I agree - it's not really because anything HUGE has come out this year (late '04 and early '05 was the latest really pop culturally vibrant time), but it's more just the disappearence of more and more "90s" stuff that makes it seem that way.
Very late 1998-mid 2001 was like the entire "1999ish 90s" era, but there was some '90s feel up as late as 2004 (again, partly because not all the '90s and '90slike stuff had quite disappeared).
But with the shortlived "Green Day revival/beginning of retro '80s/MySpace blowing up" culture of 04/early '05, the '00s started to get its own identity more and more. That's when even, say a 2002 song like "A Thousand Miles" by Vanessa Carlton started sounded a teeny bit dated and slightly '90s-esque in comparison.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:48 pm
I think I agree - it's not really because anything HUGE has come out this year (late '04 and early '05 was the latest really pop culturally vibrant time), but it's more just the disappearence of more and more "90s" stuff that makes it seem that way.
Very late 1998-mid 2001 was like the entire "1999ish 90s" era, but there was some '90s feel up as late as 2004 (again, partly because not all the '90s and '90slike stuff had quite disappeared).
But with the shortlived "Green Day revival/beginning of retro '80s/MySpace blowing up" culture of 04/early '05, the '00s started to get its own identity more and more. That's when even, say a 2002 song like "A Thousand Miles" by Vanessa Carlton started sounded a teeny bit dated and slightly '90s-esque in comparison.
Yea the '90s are definitely over no question here in 2006, though really they were over in 2004, however you still had people in here posting how the '00s are the new '90s. Funny that I don't see those posts anymore, because it isn't true.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: Marty McFly on 05/14/06 at 11:50 pm
^ Yeah, isn't it weird how it can change in "everyday" life so fast like that? ;D
Of course '04 to '06 is way way more subtle/slow than 94 to '96 etc. but it's still there.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: velvetoneo on 05/14/06 at 11:52 pm
I think I agree - it's not really because anything HUGE has come out this year (late '04 and early '05 was the latest really pop culturally vibrant time), but it's more just the disappearence of more and more "90s" stuff that makes it seem that way.
Very late 1998-mid 2001 was like the entire "1999ish 90s" era, but there was some '90s feel up as late as 2004 (again, partly because not all the '90s and '90slike stuff had quite disappeared).
But with the shortlived "Green Day revival/beginning of retro '80s/MySpace blowing up" culture of 04/early '05, the '00s started to get its own identity more and more. That's when even, say a 2002 song like "A Thousand Miles" by Vanessa Carlton started sounded a teeny bit dated and slightly '90s-esque in comparison.
Yeah, even in '04 the '00s still sort of seemed like it was going to be the new '90s...now, you almost never hear that. People miss the late '90s and have realized the '00s is pretty different.
There was definitely a big change in the middle of 2003 towards the true '00s, and another one after 9/11. Probably sometime in 2007 will be another one.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: bbigd04 on 05/14/06 at 11:55 pm
^ Yeah, isn't it weird how it can change in "everyday" life so fast like that? ;D
Of course '04 to '06 is way way more subtle/slow than 94 to '96 etc. but it's still there.
Yea there was still a bit of an "early '00s" feel in early 2004, it is completely gone now.
Subject: Re: Does anyone agree?
Written By: Coastal Influence on 05/15/06 at 12:12 am
That 2006 is the first year that feels removed from the 1990s?
I would say that 2004 was the first year that felt removed from the 90's for me.
This year seems kind of like so far, a watered down 2005.
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