As it was the case in the late 80's (nkotb,debbie gibson,kylie minogue..) and late 90's (backstreet boys, nsync, britney..) , do you think that late 00's will saw a ressurgence of prefabricated teen pop bands and pop princesses ?

No.

I really hope not, but I think yes.  Probably around 2010 is when it will peak or start happening, because the glam rap will fall out of style.

Deborah Gibson was never teen pop, she's just pop  ;) Same for Kylie. They were no different than Bangles, Paula Abdul, and early Madonna except they were teenagers.

Anwser your question, I would also say no.

Maybe. I would say no but there's no way you can be 100% sure. Plus I could easily see it happening.

Well the first wave of Gen Z kids will start coming of age in the early 2010s, so maybe we'll see a resurgence of "lighter" music because of that.

Not anytime soon.

I don't think Gen Z has as much numerical "cred" as Gen Y did as 11-year olds. I doubt it...maybe more teen pop stars but not that super-bubblegummy late '90s style tweeny pop.

I don't think Gen Z has as much numerical "cred" as Gen Y did as 11-year olds. I doubt it...maybe more teen pop stars but not that super-bubblegummy late '90s style tweeny pop.


Again, the reason I'm skeptical of considering 1995ers Gen Z.  They like the same music as the younger Gen Yers, as of now.  As opposed to in 1997, when Gen Y music fueled by 1985ers popped out of nowhere.  The line between Y and Z is sharp enough that when the real first-wave Zers come of age we'll know it.  I hope this doesn't equate to a new wave of teen pop.  ;D

Again, the reason I'm skeptical of considering 1995ers Gen Z.  They like the same music as the younger Gen Yers, as of now.  As opposed to in 1997, when Gen Y music fueled by 1985ers popped out of nowhere.   The line between Y and Z is sharp enough that when the real first-wave Zers come of age we'll know it.  I hope this doesn't equate to a new wave of teen pop.  ;D


But also, the 1965ers liked 1976 music and became Xers.

God, I hope not.

But also, the 1965ers liked 1976 music and became Xers.


Yeah, but they weren't the prime force behind any late '70s musical movement.  The boy bands/teen were fueled by people born in the '80s and very early '90s.  They were a very obvious sign for a generational shift, even for a generation that's almost like an emo answer to Gen X.  When the real Gen Zers get out of diapers, the change will be a lot more noticeable.  Even the Disney stuff I associate more with tail-end Y than Gen Z.

I think pop is dying out and when it's gone it will stay gone.  I mean N Sync is gone and the backstreet boys tried to make a comeback, which in my opinion that failed miserably, and i don't think they'll try again.  I think the future bands and singers will make music that the public likes which isn't really pop anymore.

I think pop is dying out and when it's gone it will stay gone.  I mean N Sync is gone and the backstreet boys tried to make a comeback, which in my opinion that failed miserably, and i don't think they'll try again.  I think the future bands and singers will make music that the public likes which isn't really pop anymore.


Teen pop, that is. Pop has been around since the '20s, for God's sake.

Teen pop artists are still around, just not much going on in the Billboard Charts.  In the UK though, there are a few ...

Sugababes, Rachel Stevens, Girls Aloud

Even the Disney stuff I associate more with tail-end Y than Gen Z.



Yeah, the Disney stuff is more late Gen Y(1994-1996).

As it was the case in the late 80's (nkotb,debbie gibson,kylie minogue..) and late 90's (backstreet boys, nsync, britney..) , do you think that late 00's will saw a ressurgence of prefabricated teen pop bands and pop princesses ?


I really hope not. The sheer number of boybands created in the late '90s was actually frightening to behold. Everybody remembers 'N Sync and Backstreet Boys because they led the pack, but there were just loads of them spawning like flies all over the world... I don't even remember most of them anymore, as they've all sort of fizzled and died out. Will that happen again? I don't think it will for a while... we all got pretty burned out on boybands. As for pop princesses, I'm actually still waiting for them to  go away, but they seem to be firmly entrenched in '00s popular culture.

Though to be honest, I actually prefer teen-pop to most of the really puerile rap music that's popular now. I hated boybands at the time, but no boyband was ever responsible for something as execrable as "My Humps" or "Grillz."

Thank God we weren't really afflicted by the whole teen-pop phenomena down here (apart from American bands). The closest we came from Human Nature.

I really hope not. The sheer number of boybands created in the late '90s was actually frightening to behold. Everybody remembers 'N Sync and Backstreet Boys because they led the pack, but there were just loads of them spawning like flies all over the world... I don't even remember most of them anymore, as they've all sort of fizzled and died out. Will that happen again? I don't think it will for a while... we all got pretty burned out on boybands. As for pop princesses, I'm actually still waiting for them to  go away, but they seem to be firmly entrenched in '00s popular culture.

Though to be honest, I actually prefer teen-pop to most of the really puerile rap music that's popular now. I hated boybands at the time, but no boyband was ever responsible for something as execrable as "My Humps" or "Grillz."


The pop princesses are a rather interesting case.  I don't count R&B artists as "teen pop", even if that's basically what they are, because people tend to take them somewhat more seriously than your obvious puppy or princess band.  Beyonce and Ciara don't count.  Avril Lavigne probably doesn't count.  Jessica/Ashlee Simpson, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, Christina Aguilera, etc. do count, even if their existence sometimes depends on going whore/glam rap.

However, the "pop princess" trend certainly isn't as prevalent in the mid '00s as it was in the late '90s and very early '00s.  For one thing, there were "girl bands" too.  Of course there's the obvious Spice Girls (although I'd almost call them more '90s dance), but there's also Dream, B*Witched, etc.  Plus, whatever happened to Mandy Moore, or Jennifer Lopez's music?  

However, the "pop princess" trend certainly isn't as prevalent in the mid '00s as it was in the late '90s and very early '00s.  For one thing, there were "girl bands" too.  Of course there's the obvious Spice Girls (although I'd almost call them more '90s dance), but there's also Dream, B*Witched, etc.  Plus, whatever happened to Mandy Moore, or Jennifer Lopez's music?  



The pop princesses are just hold-overs from when teen pop was big in the late 90's and early 00's(save of course for the Disney pop stars that made it big). Somehow they stayed popular when the boy bands couldn't.

The pop princesses are a rather interesting case.  I don't count R&B artists as "teen pop", even if that's basically what they are, because people tend to take them somewhat more seriously than your obvious puppy or princess band.  Beyonce and Ciara don't count.  Avril Lavigne probably doesn't count.  Jessica/Ashlee Simpson, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, Christina Aguilera, etc. do count, even if their existence sometimes depends on going whore/glam rap.

However, the "pop princess" trend certainly isn't as prevalent in the mid '00s as it was in the late '90s and very early '00s.  For one thing, there were "girl bands" too.  Of course there's the obvious Spice Girls (although I'd almost call them more '90s dance), but there's also Dream, B*Witched, etc.  Plus, whatever happened to Mandy Moore, or Jennifer Lopez's music?  


Bringing back bad memories...the girl bands are one of the more forgotten elements of the teen pop explosion.

The pop princesses are a rather interesting case.  I don't count R&B artists as "teen pop", even if that's basically what they are, because people tend to take them somewhat more seriously than your obvious puppy or princess band.  Beyonce and Ciara don't count.  Avril Lavigne probably doesn't count.  Jessica/Ashlee Simpson, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Hilary Duff, Christina Aguilera, etc. do count, even if their existence sometimes depends on going whore/glam rap.

However, the "pop princess" trend certainly isn't as prevalent in the mid '00s as it was in the late '90s and very early '00s.  For one thing, there were "girl bands" too.  Of course there's the obvious Spice Girls (although I'd almost call them more '90s dance), but there's also Dream, B*Witched, etc.  Plus, whatever happened to Mandy Moore, or Jennifer Lopez's music? 


It's technically incorrect to call them 'boy bands' and 'girl bands' as I understand a 'band' by definition includes people playing instruments.

It's technically incorrect to call them 'boy bands' and 'girl bands' as I understand a 'band' by definition includes people playing instruments.



Ironic isn't it? ;D

It's technically incorrect to call them 'boy bands' and 'girl bands' as I understand a 'band' by definition includes people playing instruments.


I think "orgies" is a better term.  ;D

I think "orgies" is a better term.  ;D



;D

Singing orgies, that is.

Singing orgies, that is.


;D

Yeah, the Disney stuff is more late Gen Y(1994-1996).


There's going to be a "High School Musical II", though by that time the fans have already grew out of it and the cast will be on "E! True Hollywood Story" like Lohan, Spears, etc.

There's going to be a "High School Musical II", though by that time the fans have already grew out of it and the cast will be on "E! True Hollywood Story" like Lohan, Spears, etc.


Yeah, in '07.  ::)

Will '06 or '07 be the year '00s culture gets unbearably stupid, in your opinion? I think it'll be like the 06-07 and 07-08 school years.

Will '06 or '07 be the year '00s culture gets unbearably stupid, in your opinion? I think it'll be like the 06-07 and 07-08 school years.


Summer of 2006-Spring '08

You mean it hasn't all ready?  :o  ::)

You mean it hasn't all ready?  :o  ::)


;D

You mean it hasn't all ready?  :o  ::)


I sincerely hope that "My Humps" remains the nadir of popular culture for a long time to come.

Summer of 2006-Spring '08



Probably 2007-early 2008.

I remember one time I was browsing on another message board and found a topic on boy bands.  Everyone talked about how much they sucked and how they were thankfully gone.  One guy then remarked "The boy bands never left.  They just picked up guitars."  When you think about it, there is actually some truth in that statement.  How else would Simple Plan have gotten popular with 12 year olds?

Speaking of which, anyone notice Teen Pop's main audience doesn't actually seem to be teens?  Back when the boy bands were around, I remember their biggest fans were actually 11 year old girls in elementary school.  It seems like Pre-Teen girls tend to like Teen Pop more than actual teens.

Speaking of which, anyone notice Teen Pop's main audience doesn't actually seem to be teens?  Back when the boy bands were around, I remember their biggest fans were actually 11 year old girls in elementary school.  It seems like Pre-Teen girls tend to like Teen Pop more than actual teens.



Teen pop also seems to have one of the smallest age margians between the artist and fans. The average teen pop star is about 16-18 and the average fan is roughly 11-14. That's only about a 4 year difference.

Speaking of which, anyone notice Teen Pop's main audience doesn't actually seem to be teens?  Back when the boy bands were around, I remember their biggest fans were actually 11 year old girls in elementary school.  It seems like Pre-Teen girls tend to like Teen Pop more than actual teens.


I think it's called "Teen Pop" because it's made by teens.  ;D

I remember one time I was browsing on another message board and found a topic on boy bands.  Everyone talked about how much they sucked and how they were thankfully gone.  One guy then remarked "The boy bands never left.  They just picked up guitars."  When you think about it, there is actually some truth in that statement.  How else would Simple Plan have gotten popular with 12 year olds?

Speaking of which, anyone notice Teen Pop's main audience doesn't actually seem to be teens?  Back when the boy bands were around, I remember their biggest fans were actually 11 year old girls in elementary school.  It seems like Pre-Teen girls tend to like Teen Pop more than actual teens.



Yeah...Fall Out Boy and Simple Plan are really just boy bands with guitars. The oldest main audience for the teen pop is like 14, and the youngest is like 9 to get really into it, with a peak around 11 or 12.

Yeah...Fall Out Boy and Simple Plan are really just boy bands with guitars. The oldest main audience for the teen pop is like 14, and the youngest is like 9 to get really into it, with a peak around 11 or 12.


"A Little Less Sixteen Candles, A Little More Touch Me"  ;D