how Harmonica managed (once again)???

Yeah, you sound like a true newbie. :P


Actually the noobster is right. pretty much every time harmonica starts posting on a thread pretty soon it devolves into like a half-dozen people arguing with him. (unless you're saying deedee is showing her noobsterity because everybody else pretty much knows about the curious Harmonica Effect.)

I kinda begrudgingly admire it, actually. like harmy's posts or hate 'em, but you can't ignore em.

how Harmonica managed (once again)???

Yeah, you sound like a true newbie. :P



She is a true newbie but she has read a few threads. (She also happens to be a very dear friend of mine.)




Cat

I'm sorry, i guess i should have introduced myself.  I have worked for the past 27 years and now that I have the chance to "stay home" I also have  the opportunity to (expand my horizon).  I am new to this site.  I have read some of the threads before (at the suggestion of my friend (CatwomanofV") and have enjoyed coming in here and reading.  On a couple of occasions, i had the chance to read Harmonica's "thoughts" and that from which I based my opinion. 

well welcome deedee! introduce yourself in the new users forum and bask in the love and attention. :)

We'll you're all in unison that being called "gay" is no big deal, from the tone of expression seems like you take it like a compliment.  You try and make me feel like it's a good thing too.  Well once again, you have no luck because I know a lot of heterosexual people and if I called any of the guys I know gay, I'd probably be in for a fight and any of the girls gay, I'd probably get slapped.

You want logic? I'll give you logic. Don't piss on my boot, then tell me it's raining.

my attitude on that, getting called "gay," is if it's meant as an insult, i'm liable to take it as one. there's a lot of other stuff at work here, such as the notion of conventional masculinity being viewed as a burden, so that if someone questions your masculinity and your attitudes about it are fairly conservative or what have you, you're likely to feel like your manhood is being challenged. i find the whole ritual rather silly but a lot of people take it deadly seriously.

my attitude on that, getting called "gay," is if it's meant as an insult, i'm liable to take it as one. there's a lot of other stuff at work here, such as the notion of conventional masculinity being viewed as a burden, so that if someone questions your masculinity and your attitudes about it are fairly conservative or what have you, you're likely to feel like your manhood is being challenged. i find the whole ritual rather silly but a lot of people take it deadly seriously.



Interesting thought. My mother used to say that if a man had to worry about his masculinity, then he had something to worry about.




Cat

Interesting thought. My mother used to say that if a man had to worry about his masculinity, then he had something to worry about.




Cat


there's this great james jones quote from his from-here-to-eternity trilogy about masculinity as being like a river that finds its own way to the sea. very nice, and it totally goes to that masculinity is a quality you have as a man rather than something you have to continually reaffirm. james jones was really into that i think because he was viscerally antiwar and so many men go to war to prove that they're "men" and then come back broken. whether they're gay or not. and if this view of masculinity was done away with in favor of a healthier view of what it means to be a man, we'd go quite a long way toward putting an end to war. assuming that's something we're still trying to do, which at the moment doesn't appear to be the case.

sorry to digress.

there's this great james jones quote from his from-here-to-eternity trilogy about masculinity as being like a river that finds its own way to the sea. very nice, and it totally goes to that masculinity is a quality you have as a man rather than something you have to continually reaffirm. james jones was really into that i think because he was viscerally antiwar and so many men go to war to prove that they're "men" and then come back broken. whether they're gay or not. and if this view of masculinity was done away with in favor of a healthier view of what it means to be a man, we'd go quite a long way toward putting an end to war. assuming that's something we're still trying to do, which at the moment doesn't appear to be the case.

sorry to digress.



I agree with Windbreaker.  Great quote.



Cat

thanks! 'course, then again james jones was a capitulating little girly-boy nancy pants, so take it with a grain of salt.

haha, i kid, of course. everyone should totally read his big wwii trilogy. "the thin red line" was the only book that i literally sat up reading all night until the sun came up.

Actually the noobster is right. pretty much every time harmonica starts posting on a thread pretty soon it devolves into like a half-dozen people arguing with him. (unless you're saying deedee is showing her noobsterity because everybody else pretty much knows about the curious Harmonica Effect.)





Yeah, what i meant was that when you say a poster is doing something "once again" it kind of suggests you've been around awhile...

I apologize for the sarcastic comment.. if you're a friend of Cat's, you must be cool. :)

my attitude on that, getting called "gay," is if it's meant as an insult, i'm liable to take it as one. there's a lot of other stuff at work here, such as the notion of conventional masculinity being viewed as a burden, so that if someone questions your masculinity and your attitudes about it are fairly conservative or what have you, you're likely to feel like your manhood is being challenged. i find the whole ritual rather silly but a lot of people take it deadly seriously.


That's a very good way of looking at it, and confines to Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise claims to be heterosexual. He does nothing to indicate being other than straight.    He has children.  He's about to have another child with Katie Holmes.  Calling him gay is an insult, it can't be anything else, due to the given circumstances.

I've seen people be called Gay that weren't gay before, seen girls come to tears for being called a lesbian, ain't much silly about that, nothing silly about it at all actually.  I stuck up for them before, I'll do it again.

AAAAAAAH

You keep taking one context and applying it to another. Of course being insulted isn't ever good when something is meant as an insult. But nobody here wanted to insult Tom Cruise. The circumstances of his life you posted are all correct, but the conclusion you drew does not follow. All of these could apply to a gay man, even though, again, I am also under the impression that Tom isn't one. Television's Degrassi: The Next Generation dealt with a very similar circumstance, in which a couple with a seemingly happy marriage and two lovely children broke up when the husband could no longer take keeping up the appearance of heterosexuality. As someone who took such offense at implications that you might not be able to appreciate the arts, you know as well as I do that art imitates life. It may not be common, but it happens. And all that occurred here was that someone threw out that it might be the case here. Not that it is the case, not that Tom Cruise would be less of a person/an actor/a man were it the case, not anything other than that it might be.

Really, I think it's admirable for someone to stick up for those who are being insulted. I truly do respect you for that. I just don't think it's great to defend someone who was never attacked.


The person who initially made the "gay" remark on Tom Cruise, does not like Tom Cruise.  The context inwhich they wrote it in, points directly towards an insult.  It was not written as the man could be a heterosexual, it was written as "ha, the man could be a heterosexual" and I don't have time for quote for quote...the main jest is all I need.

Secondly, being gay only makes someone a non heterosexual that's all. Nothing more, nothing less.  If Tom Cruise does happen to be Gay, well he's still a great actor and a movitation to me.  I've known other gay people in my life, some of them I like, some of them I don't.  Same with heterosexual's, some of them I like some of them I don't.  I judge people based on the principles of one of my hero's Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, not by the color of their skin, or in this case the attraction to another human being, but by the content of their character.

Thirdly, the man came out and said he was gay. He was gay. He made it obvious he was gay. So you call him gay, I doubt he'd mind.

i have no inside information on this but my guess is that gay people in heterosexual relationships/marriages is probably rather common, and it's pretty sad. there's so much pressure to deny that identity, and particularly because so many people treat it as an insult, or that you're somehow less than others because you're gay. i bet fifty years ago a lot of people would be surprised we're still even dealing with that kind of cultural backwardness. people are people!

Sorry, I didn't realize I'd entered a joke-free thread... yeesh


;D 

Hey, I got the joke and thought it was funny too. ;)

And, once again, you got the original quote wrong (bold added by me):
He also never said he didn't like TC, he just said he was "nothing special".  There IS a difference.....it simply means that TC's not his favorite actor.  There was NOTHING in that quote that was insulting.  Like Cat, I had a friend who was a lesbian so people automatically assumed I was as well.  I didn't take it as an insult, it was just a misconception that someone had about me.  I also have some friends who are ditzy so people automatically assume I am as well.....it's no big deal....

Speculation on TC's sexuality has been around for YEARS.  Whether he is or not is not going to hurt his career one bit.  If his rants and raves about Scientology haven't, being called gay certainly won't ;D

Methinks thou doth protest too much.....


Well the day I see you're picture in the supermarket tabloids with a big, "Left her husband for another woman" tag along with it and you take it as a fun little Joke, we'll that'll be the day I say, "she did mean what she said."

Well the day I see you're picture in the supermarket tabloids with a big, "Left her husband for another woman" tag along with it and you take it as a fun little Joke, we'll that'll be the day I say, "she did mean what she said."


good point as always, harmy. ??? any reason why this wouldn't suck, the same way as getting trown over for a heterosexual homewrecker would suck? i'm not sure what you're getting at.

Oh please, like anyone actually believes what is in the tabloids...Batboy anyone?  Nick and Jessica were "just fine"?  And, how can we forget the "Yearly Prophecies" that come out every new year?  ::)


batboy HAS to be real! he joined special forces! he's the only thing standing between us and the terrorists!

Oh please, like anyone actually believes what is in the tabloids...Batboy anyone?  Nick and Jessica were "just fine"?  And, how can we forget the "Yearly Prophecies" that come out every new year?  ::)


hey, if you're fine with 3 million people seeing you accused of being gay and a good percentage of them believing it....that's cool.

good point as always, harmy. ??? any reason why this wouldn't suck, the same way as getting trown over for a heterosexual homewrecker would suck? i'm not sure what you're getting at.



The name is Harmonica.  I made perfect since.  She can dish it out, but she can't take it.  Clear as day, clarified as can be.

"harmonica" takes too long to type.

People are going to believe what they want and there's nothing I can say or do that will change that.  umm....EXCUSE ME?  Who can't take it?  YOU'RE the one taking personal offense at a rumor about SOMEONE ELSE being called "gay".....I've said time and time again that I've been called things I'm not and it doesn't bother me.....YOU'RE the one who stoops to personal attacks against others when they disagree with you and I'M the one who can "dish it out and can't take it"?  Look in the mirror, buddy.....


The art of persuasion means nothing to you? Get real.  Me, someone who doesn't get along with you 85% of the time,  know's good and well that's one of your strong points. Something your good at! Don't deny it.  You can say and do plenty to prove your heterosexual or that you're homosexual.  What you say and do in the company of others has not everything but a lot to do with the way people persieve you.  You grab womans butt and plant one on her, it'll help the accusations fly.  You do what you can in your power to show that you're not gay it will make those rumors fade out into the false obilivion that they are.  Don't tell me that nothing you say or do can change they way they think. 

You could use a tuck in there yourself sister.  Admitting something takes more courage and intellectual stand than trying to act perfect and impeccable, but like the jerk with the girl, it isn't as "cool".  Tom Cruise has millions upon million of people he has to answer to, who do you have to answer to?  A few hundred? The numbers do make  difference. 

The only thing left to do is to see a large sum of people make the accusations fly about you, and admire the coolness and humility you show about being the secretive town lesbian.

hey kim.....can I have a kiss? :-* :-* :-*


LOL! ;D ;)

And I'm still befuddled! If I plant one on a guy and grab his bum, for sure rumors will fly -- but they'll probably have more to do with my poor impulse control than my gender preference. And what's more, I'd deserve it!

I imagine the fact that my avatar's a girl might spark some rumors. I don't really care though. Any press is good press, that's what I always say.

And I'm still befuddled! If I plant one on a guy and grab his bum, for sure rumors will fly -- but they'll probably have more to do with my poor impulse control than my gender preference. And what's more, I'd deserve it!

I imagine the fact that my avatar's a girl might spark some rumors. I don't really care though. Any press is good press, that's what I always say.




hey...there's nothing wrong with a little affection, eh? LOL! ;)

I've had all kinds of rumors fly about me around my hometown and when I was in college....I was a lesbian, a slut, a druggie, a thief, a psychotic, a few other things....granted that was only a few hundred/thousand people, but to a teenager, that's the "world".  NONE of them changed the way I acted or felt about myself. 


Me, too!  There are many reasons why people question a persons life/sexuality.  If you are a decent person doing the right thing everyday what people say about you is their issue, not yours.  See, I wonder about the fact that Harm has a poster of Tom Cruise on his wall.  The guys I know would never(after the age of 16 or so) hang up a poster of another guy in their room. That shouldn't in anyway determine for him whether or not to leave the poster up on his wall.  If it does then he is allowing me to make a determination on the way he conducts his life and that would not be right.

I just don't see what the big flippin' deal is with this whole thing...I mean, if he's straight...that's fine, if he's gay...then that's just as fine. People get too anal (sorry, no pun intended) over trivial things such as these.  I mean, none of us are personal friends of TC...so none of us should really take any of it personally that some people might think that he is gay or whatever....it's nothing really to lose sleep over...it's not like it will change the outcome of any of our lives.  ::)

See, I wonder about the fact that Harm has a poster of Tom Cruise on his wall. 

Particularly since it's that one where he's all shirtless and well-oiled.

I think it's time for a few rounds of "you know how I know you're gay?", as seen in the 40-year-old virgin.

Particularly since it's that one where he's all shirtless and well-oiled.

I think it's time for a few rounds of "you know how I know you're gay?", as seen in the 40-year-old virgin.



Thread it!

Thread it!


I'm afraid chucky will spank me! which would just lead to more rumors.

http://www.inthe00s.com/index.php/topic,16752.0.html

I couldn't resist. I figured if I implicated myself straight outta the gate folks'd be less likely to get offended.

Hey, Angelina Jolie kissed her brother (some say with tongue) and it hasn't hurt HER career any ;)


That's a joke right?  Insest jokes are still getting giggles!

No.  She kissed her brother full on the mouth at an awards event quite a few years ago.  Google Angelina kiss brother and you'll get TONS of results.

I know she kissed her brother, that I know. You said didnt' hurt her career any, I know a lot of people who won't go watch her movies.  Now personally long before I knew about her kiss to her brother I wouldn't watch her movies, cause I don't care for her as an actress.

Are you people blind or just arrogant biggots?

The poster for the second time is a picture of Tom Cruise cut out from a high school Wrestling Team Photo, that reads "Senior year, I was injured and benched for the wrestling season, my career was over.  When the drama department did Guys and Dolls I auditioned and won the part of Nathan Detroit." 

Now granted if I had a picture of Tom Cruise naked from the waist up, I too would question my sexuality. However the poster I have is a poster of motivation, which obviously since the nine letters of harmonica are too hard for some to write down isn't a popular thing in a world that supports apathy.

Are you people blind or just arrogant biggots?

The poster for the second time is a picture of Tom Cruise cut out from a high school Wrestling Team Photo, that reads "Senior year, I was injured and benched for the wrestling season, my career was over.  When the drama department did Guys and Dolls I auditioned and won the part of Nathan Detroit." 

Now granted if I had a picture of Tom Cruise naked from the waist up, I too would question my sexuality. However the poster I have is a poster of motivation, which obviously since the nine letters of harmonica are too hard for some to write down isn't a popular thing in a world that supports apathy.
my bad, dude. if i'd known you had a poster from a guy who'd actually won himself a part in "guys and dolls" against all odds, i'd never have called you gay.

my bad, dude. if i'd known you had a poster from a guy who'd actually won himself a part in "guys and dolls" against all odds, i'd never have called you gay.



;D

since the nine letters of harmonica are too hard for some to write down isn't a popular thing in a world that supports apathy.



Oh don't be so precious.  Mine has been scaled down to Danoot and we have(or have had), DC(Don Carlos), Cat(CatwomanofV),
RnR(RocknRollfan) and countless other shorts.  ::)

^  ;D

What's the difference between Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise? Answer, a lot.

Despite both being relatively short as actors, both dark haired, both largish noses and nice smiles - well one has a nice smile not a grimace and that's the uber gorgeous DUSTIN HOFFMAN. I'd rather watch Hoffman act any day than look at cruise ponce about. Double entendre.  ;D

^  ;D

What's the difference between Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise? Answer, a lot.

Despite both being relatively short as actors, both dark haired, both largish noses and nice smiles - well one has a nice smile not a grimace and that's the uber gorgeous DUSTIN HOFFMAN. I'd rather watch Hoffman act any day than look at cruise ponce about. Double entendre.  ;D




I'm with you, Babou    ;)

Do "those people" also not watch Rock Hudson?  Rupert Everett?  Raymond Burr?  Anthony Perkins?  Ian McKellan?  Lily Tomlin?  Agnes Moorehead?  Marlene Dietrich?  I won't even go into the directors/producers/musicians.  If they won't watch a certain actor/actress or director, or listen to a certain musicians music because of their sexual orientation, they're missing some of the greatest. 

You complain about bigots?  Seems like you hang around quite a few....




wow..I didn't know that Lily Tomlin and Agnes Moorehead are/were gay....ya learn something new everyday! ;)

I'm with you, Babou    ;)

Cheers Danoo!

Babs.

Do "those people" also not watch Rock Hudson?  Rupert Everett?  Raymond Burr?  Anthony Perkins?  Ian McKellan?  Lily Tomlin?  Agnes Moorehead?  Marlene Dietrich?  I won't even go into the directors/producers/musicians.  If they won't watch a certain actor/actress or director, or listen to a certain musicians music because of their sexual orientation, they're missing some of the greatest. 

You complain about bigots?  Seems like you hang around quite a few....


Elton John is my all time favorite musical artist.  Reginald Kenneth Dwight, full bourne gay. 

I know she kissed her brother, that I know. You said didn't' hurt her career any, I know a lot of people who won't go watch her movies. 




I once watched a teen television special and the discussion was about a teen girl, very sure of herself, who said that she would not read anything written by a homosexual because homosexuality was against the word of god(of course, that would be her reason)  A teen asked her if she would refuse to read the words of slaveholders(the teen asking was African American) since they had engaged in the evil of buying and selling babies, splitting up families, and brutalizing them.  The girl then got the "deer in the headlights" look.  She didn't know what to say, fumbled a bit, then said "of course", but it was very obvious to all that her answer was disingenious.  She did not regain her composure after that.  So I wonder if Angelina/homosexuals are the only ones these  people exclude, if so how do they justify reading and studying others who have done things that they also consider against the word of god.

Tom! he's so dreamy.

Tom! he's so dreamy.



Yeah, Tia would do 'im.


Dude, what's your real name, anyway? Or.. don't you want to say? Or.. did you say already and I just missed it..?

^  ;D

What's the difference between Dustin Hoffman and Tom Cruise? Answer, a lot.

Despite both being relatively short as actors, both dark haired, both largish noses and nice smiles - well one has a nice smile not a grimace and that's the uber gorgeous DUSTIN HOFFMAN. I'd rather watch Hoffman act any day than look at cruise ponce about. Double entendre.  ;D



Hoffman acts, Cruise acts like an idiot!
::)

You proved my point (but didn't answer the question as usual).  Elton John became MORE popular after he "came out" and is still going strong.  Do "those people who won't watch Angelina Jolie" also listen to him?  What about the other actors I listed above?  Why is TC's sexual orientation such a big deal?


Because HE doesn't want it to be that way. HE doesn't want you to think he's gay. HE doesn't want false rumors spread about him.  HE doesnt' want to be treated as something that HE is not.  That's why, you and everybody else shouldn't call him gay.

I have no idea if they listen to Elton John or not.

Because HE doesn't want it to be that way. HE doesn't want you to think he's gay. HE doesn't want false rumors spread about him.  HE doesnt' want to be treated as something that HE is not.  That's why, you and everybody else shouldn't call him gay.

I have no idea if they listen to Elton John or not.




how the flip do YOU know what HE wants all the time? Are you his manager? personal trainer? relative? friend? anybody important to him? ???

how the flip do YOU know what HE wants all the time? Are you his manager? personal trainer? relative? friend? anybody important to him? ???


Common psychology, unless Tom Cruise is into something I'm not aware being treated like crap and having other people make you feel like crap isn't something he is going to want. That's how the flip I know. 

Common psychology, unless Tom Cruise is into something I'm not aware being treated like crap and having other people make you feel like crap isn't something he is going to want. That's how the flip I know. 




making fun would be calling him a "fag" or some other derogatory name.....merely speculating that he may or may not be "gay" is hardly making fun.

Do "those people" also not watch Rock Hudson?  Rupert Everett?  Raymond Burr?  Anthony Perkins?  Ian McKellan?  Lily Tomlin?  Agnes Moorehead?  Marlene Dietrich?  I won't even go into the directors/producers/musicians.  If they won't watch a certain actor/actress or director, or listen to a certain musicians music because of their sexual orientation, they're missing some of the greatest. 

You complain about bigots?  Seems like you hang around quite a few....


Raymond Burr?  Wow, that's news to me.  Oh well.  I love Rock Hudson.  His movies were terrific and I bawled like a baby when he died. 

This thread is hysterical. Twelve whole pages devoted to Tom Cruise and whether or not he's flaming. F*cking beautiful.

My opinion? I don't give a d*mn if he's straight, gay, or into doing barnyard animals. He made a complete fool of himself last year though with his rants on PPD and thus lost any respect I had for him. Not that it matters to that egomaniacal twit. But it makes me feel good to know that I have a valid reason for not liking the tool.

Carry on with this topic though. I find it highly amusing.

This thread is hysterical. Twelve whole pages devoted to Tom Cruise and whether or not he's flaming. F*cking beautiful.

My opinion? I don't give a d*mn if he's straight, gay, or into doing barnyard animals. He made a complete fool of himself last year though with his rants on PPD and thus lost any respect I had for him. Not that it matters to that egomaniacal twit. But it makes me feel good to know that I have a valid reason for not liking the tool.

Carry on with this topic though. I find it highly amusing.


;D OK

I loved it when he got squirted in the mush with that phoney mic. it was hilarious watching him trying to act all super cool when he was delirious with fury. Yeah and jumping up and down on Oprahs sofa  ::) ::) ::)  What a total nobhead.

did anybody see tom playing an egotistical, megalomaniacal misogynist in "magnolia"? he was just a little bit too convincing in that. after i saw that movie my tom-in-a-speedo poster came RIGHT off the wall.

did anybody see tom playing an egotistical, megalomaniacal misogynist in "magnolia"? he was just a little bit too convincing in that. after i saw that movie my tom-in-a-speedo poster came RIGHT off the wall.


;D

Common psychology, unless Tom Cruise is into something I'm not aware being treated like crap and having other people make you feel like crap isn't something he is going to want. That's how the flip I know. 
Not withstanding that grammatically your sentence is crap !
I'm sure Tom spends hours sitting in his beautiful home, surrounded by beautiful things, with his girlfriend, and children, and his millions and millions of dollars sobbing over how he's treated like crap because somebody, somewhere once speculated he was gay -  NOT.

In reality I'm sure he's far to busy getting on with his life like maybe you should do.

Tom! he's so dreamy.


Dont'cha mean dreary  ;D

Hoffman acts, Cruise acts like an idiot!
::)

Yes!!

People do things I don't want all the time (like not answer my questions ::)), but that doesn't stop THEM....they keep on doing whatever they're doing, even when I and others point out what they're doing.  IT'S A RUMOUR, DUDE!  NOONE HAS SAID "TOM CRUISE IS DEFINITELY GAY"  Right or wrong, having rumours spread about you is part of being famous.  If HE doesn't want it to happen, then HE should get his behind OUT of the spotlight.

Oh, so you know these people SPECIFICALLY won't watch Angelina Jolie because she kissed her brother but have NO IDEA who else they will/won't watch/listen to?  mmmhmmm O0

methinks thou doth protest too much.....



You ask rhetorical questions.  Tell me is the background white? Are the letters typed black?  Yes I know specifically these people don't watch Jolie because she kissed her brother.  "I don't like her cause she's insest". 

I watch movies with my friends, I don't listen to music with my friends because they like hip hop and rap and a lot of todays style.  I like oldies, rock n roll and country.  So no, I don't know what they listen to and it's a legitimate response. 

Methinks you need a good kick in the ole metaphorical ass to appreciate the fact that within all your arrogance you wouldn't want everyone and their dog calling you a fag and it WOULD make you uneasy.

You ask rhetorical questions.  Tell me is the background white? Are the letters typed black?   Yes I know specifically these people don't watch Jolie because she kissed her brother.  "I don't like her cause she's insest". 

I watch movies with my friends, I don't listen to music with my friends because they like hip hop and rap and a lot of todays style.  I like oldies, rock n roll and country.  So no, I don't know what they listen to and it's a legitimate response. 

Methinks you need a good kick in the ole metaphorical ass to appreciate the fact that within all your arrogance you wouldn't want everyone and their dog calling you a fag and it WOULD make you uneasy.


The "f" word is much closer to the character of a racial slur. Totally different from speculating whether someone might be gay or straight. The "f" word is associated with a long, tired, sad history of anti-gay violence (five'll get you ten those bastards who did that horrible s**t to that poor kid in Wyoming a few years back used the f-word on him at some point, for instance) and so I think it's funny it comes out of your mouth in conjunction with talk about "kicking metaphorical ass." The relationship of that word to violence being what it is.

Methinks you need a good kick in the ole metaphorical ass to appreciate the fact that within all your arrogance you wouldn't want everyone and their dog calling you a fag and it WOULD make you uneasy.


Remember a couple years ago when that dog called tom cruise gay? I woulda thought that would have gotten more media attention, to be honest.

No, I've asked you SPECIFIC questions time and time again and if you don't WANT to answer or don't KNOW the answer, you just skip it.  This time, I specifically asked you who else they REFUSE to watch/listen to and even gave you some suggestions, which you totally ignored.  I just find it interesting that you SPECIFICALLY know that they won't watch Angelina Jolie's movies "because she's insest" (it's actually incestuous, but that's beside the point), but the subject went no further than that.  If any of MY friends had said "I won't watch/listen to so & so because of XYZ", I'd (and I think 95% of the population would) ask "Who else won't you watch/listen to?" or "What about so-and-so?  They're XYZ too". 

Are you blind?  Have you NOT seen the multiple times on this thread (and others) where I said that I HAVE been called names?  That I HAVE been called a "dyke"?  That I HAVE been called a "slut"?  That I HAVE been called a multitude of other things and it hasn't affected me?  That people have said IT'S A RUMOUR THAT HE'S GAY?  Heck, people have even resorted to using different colors to get you to actually see what is being said, but you must be colorblind.  Methinks YOU need a metaphorical kick in the ass to actually READ what is written. ::)


You scream at a dog, "GOOD BOY, YOUR A GOOD DOG" and throw your hands around as if you're going to hit him, then you say in a nice calm voice while gently massaging him, "your the ugliest, stupidest dog in the world, I hope you get skinned alive".  Well you fool him, you don't fool me.

You scream at a dog, "GOOD BOY, YOUR A GOOD DOG" and throw your hands around as if you're going to hit him, then you say in a nice calm voice while gently massaging him, "your the ugliest, stupidest dog in the world, I hope you get skinned alive".  Well you fool him, you don't fool me.


So you're implying that Tom Cruise is a dog? I'm offended for him!

And it still doesn't change the fact that he's a chode.

Sure would be fun to see you get the hell beat out of you mentally or physically...normally I'd feel sorry for you, but do unto others as they'd do to you, which in my case going off of yours,  would be laugh.


What a good Christian you are Harmonica  ::) :P

What a good Christian you are Harmonica  ::) :P


Eye for an eye mentality?

So you're implying that Tom Cruise is a dog? I'm offended for him!

And it still doesn't change the fact that he's a chode.


I dont' love everything about Tom Cruise, there are a lot of things about him that I don't like, however those things I dont' make up or let other people make up for me.  He's with Katie Holmes so therefore making the remark that he robbed the cradle, is just and legite.  He believes in Scientology, which I think is a bunch of crap.  I don't hold these things against him because he's not hurting me or anyone else with them, unlike many of the arguments I have with others which does hurt a lot of people and hurt a lot of people bad. 

Fact of the matter is that there is nothing to go on him being gay except the fact that he has stood up for gay rights at gay conventions.  Which truly makes you and a lot of other people on this board hyprocrits to the 1st degree.  You preach and praise gay rights and how they should be allowed every and anything they want then turn around and make fun of a man who is not one of them but supports them. 

Don't fool you how?  Who am I trying to fool?  Are you calling me a liar?  I understand the analogy you made, but have NO CLUE how it applies to what I said.  Then again, that's nothing new, you don't have an answer (or the answer you DO have proves the OTHER person's point) or you start to think someone else is right and you throw something like this into the mix....something that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread, and EVERYTHING to do with the "faults" of the other person.  I seem to recall you throwing a hissy fit over what you perceived as someone else's ad hominem argument towards you....well, aren't YOU the pot calling the kettle black? 

Anyhoo, guess what, you don't fool me.  I can tell when someone's backed themself into a corner and trying desperately to get out.  That's when they usually resort to personal attacks....anything to change the subject ::)


I'm in no corner, if I'm afraid of anyone, it certainly isn't you.  The fact of the matter is Tom Cruise is/was for the matter being putdown and I stood up for him.  Do unto others as you'd have them do to you.  Well if I was being bashed left and right and Especially being told I wasn't being bashed right Smack after getting bashed I'd want Tom Cruise to stick up for me, therefore I do the same for him.

What a good Christian you are Harmonica  ::) :P




Yanno, that's exactly what I was thinking. Honestly, Harmonica, the way you act-- you give most Christians a bad name. If I wasn't one, and I met you, It'd make me want to run as far away from Christianity as humanly possible.

I'm done, in a devil worship, I have no voice, have fun.

well, it's a relief to have that whole devil worship out there, at least.

that sounds like a good beginning to a country song, actually. "i'm done, in a devil worship, have fun."

What the heck does "in a devil worship" mean? ???


i assume in the midst of a bunch of heathens engaged in obeisance to the dark lord? entangled in a web of mephitic deceit and carnality? a sinful bacchanal of moral turpitude?

eh, don't know a thing about it.

Jeepers Creepers.....I cannot believe this thread! LOL!  It just comes down to the fact that some people just don't get it...no matter how hard you try to imprint it in their head.

Simply having an opinion that someone may or may not be gay does not equal making fun of a person....there is a difference, ya know?

Also...I agree with Beth's statement.....Harmonica, you are always throwing the fact around that you are a big Christian, etc....but I think you are one of most arrogant and rude individuals on the boards....you always resort to throwing personal attacks at a person...whenever the fact of the matter is...this thread is about freakin' TOM CRUISE....it's not like it is about anything earth shattering or important.  He's a celebrity....he CHOSE to be in the limelight....therefore, people who are in the limelight will always be accused of being gay, druggies, sluts, alcoholics, thieves, ...and the list goes on and on.  Maybe it is not right...but, hey, it happens...even to us ordinary folk of the world.

You just don't set a very good example for someone proclaiming to be such a dedicated and awesome Christian....it almost makes me feel like I need to say, "All Christians are not like this....please do not judge the rest of us by one person who obviously have no clue what it is even about".

You just keep resorting back to the fact that, "oh, poor Tom Cruise"....we are all hypocrites because we stand up for gay people, yet we supposedly make fun of TC for maybe having gay tendencies....that is simply not the case.  Like I said before...I didn't hear anyone calling him derogatory names....all they did was merely state the fact that they have heard RUMORS that he could possibly be gay or maybe swing both ways...that's it....and you know what? SO WHAT!!  Most people have been accused of being something that they aren't....it's called..."get over it".  I could see if people were coming out and saying things like, "oh, he's a child molester" or a "big pedophile"...or, "he has sex with animals" etc....those things would be horrible to accuse someone of being, if they were not....but this is totally a different caliber...there is a big difference.

i actually have a theory that harmonica's having us on. i still remember on another message board there was this guy who had this whole elaborate bit about how the 70s t.v. show "land of the lost" was about worshipping satan. all about how holly didn't know her palce was in the home and the marshalls were a godless one-parent home and the sleestaks were always engaged in dark, mystical pagan rituals and cha-ka was a demon-monkey child whose presence in the show implicitly endorsed evolution and thus was anti-bible. it was really rather funny, good stuff.

i bet when we all meet up in las vegas harmonica's gonna be riding a motorcycle and perpetually has a six of schaefer in one hand, and is always peeling one off and tossin' it to ya and sayin' stuff like, 'hey, i really had you going with that whole tom cruise bit, yeah? have a cold one, ya devil worshipper you" and slappin' ya on the back before going up to buy a stack of chips for the next baccarat game.

Don't worry, Erin.  Most of us don't judge ANY group based on the actions of a few.  Personally, I base my opinion of someone on their actions, not necessarily their beliefs.  Most of my "friends" have different religious, political, musical, etc. beliefs than I do, but they're basically good people and THAT's what I base my friendships with them on.  I have friends who are Atheists, Christians, Catholics, Wiccans, Agnostics and even a Scientologist and we respect each other's differences.  If someone chooses to NOT be my friend simply because I have a different belief than them on something then that's THEIR loss.  I don't lose sleep over it because I choose not to surround myself with such shallow, closed-minded people.  Some people perceive that as arrogance, and maybe to an extent it is, but I know that I'm a good person, my friends are good people, my family are good people, and that's all that matters to me.  If people can't accept that about me, that's THEIR problem.  I'm not going to change who I am to please ANYONE.


I'm not so sure what a good person is, but you're definitely one of them :)

I dont' love everything about Tom Cruise, there are a lot of things about him that I don't like, however those things I dont' make up or let other people make up for me.  He's with Katie Holmes so therefore making the remark that he robbed the cradle, is just and legite.  He believes in Scientology, which I think is a bunch of crap.  I don't hold these things against him because he's not hurting me or anyone else with them, unlike many of the arguments I have with others which does hurt a lot of people and hurt a lot of people bad. 

Fact of the matter is that there is nothing to go on him being gay except the fact that he has stood up for gay rights at gay conventions.  Which truly makes you and a lot of other people on this board hyprocrits to the 1st degree.  You preach and praise gay rights and how they should be allowed every and anything they want then turn around and make fun of a man who is not one of them but supports them. 


Read my first post again (under Lazy Jessica if you can't figure it out). See how it says I don't give a d*mn who he's f*cking? Then see the part where it says I dislike him for his uneducated and asinine opinions on PPD? I DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S A WINDBAG. Do you get it now, or are you blinded by your own hypocrisy and holier than thou stance on life?

You know, I could rip you a new one just by quoting all your bullsh*t posts, but I'm quite drunk right now and don't have the time or patience to look them all up. And believe me, babycakes, it would take a lifetime. Besides, I'm quite mellow when I'm drunk, so I'll let you bow out gracefully and just shut your d*mned piehole, you ignorant wannabe Christian.

By the way, I'm bisexual (and yes, I'm married, but that wouldn't stop me from getting with a lady if I were divorced...I also have more in common with the husband when we check out the womens), so your little bullsh*t rant about being hypocritical to gay rights is just STUPID. Put that in your PIPE and SMOKE IT.

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Ya missed my addition to your post, didn't you ;)


i actually did see it later and posted a little response but the devil got in my computer and locked it up.

this thread needs more booze-friendly hand-drawn bisexuals! what jessica said, yes.

i assume in the midst of a bunch of heathens engaged in obeisance to the dark lord? entangled in a web of mephitic deceit and carnality? a sinful bacchanal of moral turpitude?

eh, don't know a thing about it.



Count me in  8)

Read my first post again (under Lazy Jessica if you can't figure it out). See how it says I don't give a d*mn who he's f*cking? Then see the part where it says I dislike him for his uneducated and asinine opinions on PPD? I DON'T LIKE HIM BECAUSE HE'S A WINDBAG. Do you get it now, or are you blinded by your own hypocrisy and holier than thou stance on life?

You know, I could rip you a new one just by quoting all your bullsh*t posts, but I'm quite drunk right now and don't have the time or patience to look them all up. And believe me, babycakes, it would take a lifetime. Besides, I'm quite mellow when I'm drunk, so I'll let you bow out gracefully and just shut your d*mned piehole, you ignorant wannabe Christian.

By the way, I'm bisexual (and yes, I'm married, but that wouldn't stop me from getting with a lady if I were divorced...I also have more in common with the husband when we check out the womens), so your little bullsh*t rant about being hypocritical to gay rights is just STUPID. Put that in your PIPE and SMOKE IT.

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I LOVE when Jessica comes on and speaks her mind!! ;) http://www.inthe00s.com/smilies/yelclap.gif

my favorite 70s devil worship movies are "asylum of satan," "satan's children" and "ride with the devil." peter fonda! yeah!

Sure would be fun to see you get the hell beat out of you mentally or physically...normally I'd feel sorry for you, but do unto others as they'd do to you, which in my case going off of yours,  would be laugh.
You really are one of the most obnoxious, bigoted and deeply unpleasant  people I have ever had the misfortune of encountering.
I agree with other comments in this thread that you are just about the worst advert for Christianity going.

You really are one of the most obnoxious, bigoted and deeply unpleasant  people I have ever had the misfortune of encountering.
I agree with other comments in this thread that you are just about the worst advert for Christianity going.

How spooky...people were posting exactly the same thing last year too.

Maybe there's some truth in it?   I always thought it ironic to use that peacful image of Christ in the avatar.

Waits for the retort.

You really are one of the most obnoxious, bigoted and deeply unpleasant  people I have ever had the misfortune of encountering.
I agree with other comments in this thread that you are just about the worst advert for Christianity going.


the only thing that saves me from feeling this way is i have a heckuva time taking this harmonica guy seriously enough to feel this strongly about it...

my favorite 70s devil worship movies are "asylum of satan," "satan's children" and "ride with the devil." peter fonda! yeah!


I have seen Race With The Devil on cable awhile back, it looked like a cheesy rip of Texas Chainsaw Massacre!  ;D  Loretta Swift is also in the movie too.

I think that most of the devil worship movies, in the 70's were really cheesy!

I have seen Race With The Devil on cable awhile back, it looked like a cheesy rip of Texas Chainsaw Massacre!  ;D  Loretta Swift is also in the movie too.

I think that most of the devil worship movies, in the 70's were really cheesy!


Exactly!

The Devil Rides Out is quite good.

The Devil Rides Out is quite good.


oo! another one! i'll put it on my queue.

I LOVE when Jessica comes on and speaks her mind!! ;) http://www.inthe00s.com/smilies/yelclap.gif


Spank you. And I mean that in the nicest way.  ;)  ;D

I saw the South Park episode that made fun of him recently. It was funny!  ;D

I am glad that people around like Matt and Trey, who are not afraid to make of celebrites, and the silly things they do.  ;D


If you thought that was funny in 2006, you should google him today.

There's a video floating around (YouTube) that makes his chair-jumping episode on Oprah look positively sane by comparison.  Originally intended to be viewed by cult members only, it's the funniest thing to hit the Intarwebs this month.

We are Legion.

If you thought that was funny in 2006, you should google him today.

There's a video floating around (YouTube) that makes his chair-jumping episode on Oprah look positively sane by comparison.  Originally intended to be viewed by cult members only, it's the funniest thing to hit the Intarwebs this month.

We are Legion.




I've been afraid to watch that. Apparently he's really nutso in it. :P

Man I can't believe this thread has been resurected again!  ;D

I can't bring myself to watch the ranting................

If you thought that was funny in 2006, you should google him today.

There's a video floating around (YouTube) that makes his chair-jumping episode on Oprah look positively sane by comparison.  Originally intended to be viewed by cult members only, it's the funniest thing to hit the Intarwebs this month.

We are Legion.





Karma for resurrecting such a classic thread. So, now all the newbies can see what we are talking about.



Cat

OMG...I just read this thread again...and it makes me wish that old Harmy was back...so that we could go about round 2!!! :D ;D

OMG...I just read this thread again...and it makes me wish that old Harmy was back...so that we could go about round 2!!! :D ;D
Hmm not sure I could stand the strain!  ;D

OMG...I just read this thread again...and it makes me wish that old Harmy was back...so that we could go about round 2!!! :D ;D


I'm with you, Quirk.  It was quite hilarious.

OMG...I just read this thread again...and it makes me wish that old Harmy was back...so that we could go about round 2!!! :D ;D


Oh, phew! I misread your post, thought you said Harmy was back.  I was like, where is he?  The Evil is back!  This is trouble, you no idea!
Felt like Dr. Loomis from "Halloween"!
:o

THE NAME IS "HARMONICA." >:( >:( >:(

He kind of reminded me of a male version of the Church Lady:


Could it be Satan?



Cat

He kind of reminded me of a male version of the Church Lady:

Could it be Satan?


"Could it be... Thetans?"

Sad thing is that Tom doesn't get it.  We may be laughing at him because he believes all our problems are caused by the disembodied spirits (!) of aliens (!!) who got flown to Hawaii (!!!) 75,000,000 years ago (!!!!) in spaceships shaped DC-8s (!!one!) and nuked by H-bombs (!eleventy!!1!).  At least, that's what South Park says.  And that's what people used to (as recently as the early 90s) get sued for talking about.

But we're not just laughing at the space-opera doctrine.  Well, we are, but that's beside the point.

Problem is, along with the wacky space opera go notions like the idea that people who haven't signed on to the programme should eventually be "disposed of quietly and without sorrow".  Where people who oppose the cult are "fair game", and "may be tricked, lied to, and destroyed".

And because when Lisa McPherson tried to leave the cult, she was given the Niacin overdose in a sauna treatment that Cruise keeps going on about as the cure for everything.  Whether the cockroach bites came before or after her death, and whether or not the abrasions were from restraints or not, and whether that was because she didn't apply "the tech" correctly or perhaps for some other reason, is left as an exercise for the reader.  The court depositions make for interesting reading; some of the stuff's right up there with Jim Jones and the People's Temple.

It's a free country.  Tom's acting career earns him an honest buck, and what he spends it on is his business.  But the more I learn about where Tom's money ends up, the less I feel like seeing his latest flick.

I had to bring this topic back up for the LULZ.

Enjoy!

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"Could it be... Thetans?"



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This thread never ceases to amuse the f*ck out of me.

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He doesn't stand on a box, he wears shoe lifts.  Google "Tom Cruise shoe lifts" and you'll see. :D

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Ahh good ol' Kelly McGillis.  It's funny, almost everyone from Top Gun went onto bigger roles in great theatrical releases.  She went onto bigger roles ... in direct to video releases.  Look for her films in the $5 bargin bins at Wal-Mart ;D

Tom Cruise, the couch potato!  ;D

Potato head!

Ahh good ol' Kelly McGillis.  It's funny, almost everyone from Top Gun went onto bigger roles in great theatrical releases.  She went onto bigger roles ... in direct to video releases.  Look for her films in the $5 bargin bins at Wal-Mart ;D


And she recently came out as being GAY.

Or is that the picture Rice posted?  I can't see it.

And she recently came out as being GAY.

Or is that the picture Rice posted?  I can't see it.


It just makes fun of Tom Cruise being short.

Stars from Top Gun that went somewhere:

Tom Cruise
Tom Skerritt
Tim Robbins
Val Kilmer
Anthony Edwards
Meg Ryan
James Tolkan
Clarence Gilyard
Michael Ironside
Adrian Pasdar


Stars from Top Gun that didnt really go anywhere:

Kelly McGillis
Whip Hubley
Rick Rossovich






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;D ;D ;D ;D



Cat

OMG...I just read this thread again...and it makes me wish that old Harmy was back...so that we could go about round 2!!! :D ;D


I find this post amusing today as well. :D

I find this post amusing today as well. :D


Ditto that.

I had to bring this topic back up for the LULZ.

Enjoy!


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Do it for them!

Meanwhile, it looks like the French have found something against which even they won't surrender.

after years of hearing about this thread I'm finally taking the time to read it....






You have a poster of Tom Cruise on your wall? 


;D


this gets karma!

Harmonica doesn't necessarily stick to the strictures of conventional logic and reasoned rhetoric, bless his heart. His approach to debating is more improvisational.


when I find the new tia....he gets karma too  ;D

That's a very good way of looking at it, and confines to Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise claims to be heterosexual. He does nothing to indicate being other than straight.    He has children.  He's about to have another child with Katie Holmes.  Calling him gay is an insult, it can't be anything else, due to the given circumstances.

I've seen people be called Gay that weren't gay before, seen girls come to tears for being called a lesbian, ain't much silly about that, nothing silly about it at all actually.  I stuck up for them before, I'll do it again.


I know I'm not supposed to quote a banned member and all but I just have to say.... in case no one points it out....


Tom Cruises kids (with the exception if Suri) are adopted....  ::)

my bad, dude. if i'd known you had a poster from a guy who'd actually won himself a part in "guys and dolls" against all odds, i'd never have called you gay.


Tia is a genius!

I once watched a teen television special and the discussion was about a teen girl, very sure of herself, who said that she would not read anything written by a homosexual because homosexuality was against the word of god(of course, that would be her reason)  A teen asked her if she would refuse to read the words of slaveholders(the teen asking was African American) since they had engaged in the evil of buying and selling babies, splitting up families, and brutalizing them.  The girl then got the "deer in the headlights" look.  She didn't know what to say, fumbled a bit, then said "of course", but it was very obvious to all that her answer was disingenious.  She did not regain her composure after that.  So I wonder if Angelina/homosexuals are the only ones these  people exclude, if so how do they justify reading and studying others who have done things that they also consider against the word of god.


I once saw an episode of Jerry Springer and that had a young child (8 or so) who was raised by her Klan family. The kid said she hated blacks and jews.  A woman (about 25) stood up and said to the girl "You look like a sweet kid raised who's being taught wrong- if we were the same age would you play with me? "  the kid said yeah..... the woman said- "oh that's interesting because I'm Jewish"  you could see the look of shock and confusion on the kid's face because she just realized she didn't know what Jewish looked like....I think she was expecting horns and a tail or something....

anyway- no point to my story- Danoot's comment reminded me of it so I thought I would share  ;)

how the flip do YOU know what HE wants all the time? Are you his manager? personal trainer? relative? friend? anybody important to him? ???



aw Erin....you for got His lover? 

that would have been classic!  ;D

I had to bring this topic back up for the LULZ.

Enjoy!



thank you Jess.... I have enjoyed every bit of it.... (and wish like heck I could read all the stuff that got deleted) thank god for everyone quoting people in your responses.....  :)

thank you Jess.... I have enjoyed every bit of it.... (and wish like heck I could read all the stuff that got deleted) thank god for everyone quoting people in your responses.....  :)
Personally I'm glad the worst of the insults towards me got deleted they didn't make comfortable reading the rest of it well.....good old Harmy.  ;D

Personally I'm glad the worst of the insults towards me got deleted they didn't make comfortable reading the rest of it well.....good old Harmy.  ;D


well see the problem with missing the posts the first time around is that I was aware the missing posts were so hateful...having been on the receiving end of a few of those myself I get it...but I love ya so I wouldn't have believed any of it anyway....  :-*

as much as I love a good battle tho I am sorry I didnt  see this thread 3 years ago...


btw.... was crazymom MamaK?

btw.... was crazymom MamaK?


yes

yes


thx -  why were her posts deleted... fortunately a lot of them were quoted and I was able to follow the dialogue...

Tom Cruises kids


How's that again?

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thx -  why were her posts deleted... fortunately a lot of them were quoted and I was able to follow the dialogue...


She asked for all her posts to be deleted for some reason.  Like all over the board not just this thread.

She asked for all her posts to be deleted for some reason.  Like all over the board not just this thread.


ah...well then I repeat...thank god for quoting in your replies!  :)

How's that again?

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What?  ole what's his name implied that Tom Cruise was a virile man who supplied the sperm for all his kids.... I just pointed out that his two kids are adopted... we could speculate about Suri but you know I just didn't want to go there...


for the record.... like Patti- I was a huge fan of Tom's (okay I don't know if she's a huge fan- but she admitted liking him)

I actually had a crush on him in 1982- this was before Risky Business and all the Right Moves came out... I was writing his name all over my note books at school and my friends were wondering who the heck he was....

Then Risky Business came out and I was validated... since then I have loved almost every movie he's done... Legend. Far & Away and Eyes Wide Shut.... I haven't seen MI III, that lion lamb whatever movie, Valkerye and for some reason Last Samuri....

I still like his movies... and will eventually get around to seeing his other movies but I don't like the extreme he's taken the Scientology too... I mean he's gone kind of wacko with it.... the funny thing is people forget (except when Jett died) that John Travolta is a scientologist too... the difference is JT- totally keeps the two (his career/his "religion") separate Tom Cruise should really learn from Travolta and keep mum about the Scientology....there is no changing America's POV on it...and really it just makes him seem....welll..... crazy!

What?  ole what's his name implied that Tom Cruise was a virile man who supplied the sperm for all his kids.... I just pointed out that his two kids are adopted... we could speculate about Suri but you know I just didn't want to go there...


for the record.... like Patti- I was a huge fan of Tom's (okay I don't know if she's a huge fan- but she admitted liking him)

I actually had a crush on him in 1982- this was before Risky Business and all the Right Moves came out... I was writing his name all over my note books at school and my friends were wondering who the heck he was....

Then Risky Business came out and I was validated... since then I have loved almost every movie he's done... Legend. Far & Away and Eyes Wide Shut.... I haven't seen MI III, that lion lamb whatever movie, Valkerye and for some reason Last Samuri....

I still like his movies... and will eventually get around to seeing his other movies but I don't like the extreme he's taken the Scientology too... I mean he's gone kind of wacko with it.... the funny thing is people forget (except when Jett died) that John Travolta is a scientologist too... the difference is JT- totally keeps the two (his career/his "religion") separate Tom Cruise should really learn from Travolta and keep mum about the Scientology....there is no changing America's POV on it...and really it just makes him seem....welll..... crazy!







Kirsty Alley is also a Scientologist, but like JT, she too keeps it to herself. I USED to like TC but the older and older he gets, the more & more of a nut job he becomes. But I still like a few of his movies.



Cat

Kirsty Alley is also a Scientologist, but like JT, she too keeps it to herself. I USED to like TC but the older and older he gets, the more & more of a nut job he becomes. But I still like a few of his movies.



Cat


The Scientology game is lots more fun if you're rich and famous.  L. Ron didn't go for that all folks is made equal crap like Jesus did.
::)

The Scientology game is lots more fun if you're rich and famous.  L. Ron didn't go for that all folks is made equal crap like Jesus did.
::)


of course...it works in their favor.. I mean when the celebs die doesn't a large portion of their estate get willed to Scientology... who wants someones old beat up chevy when they can have millions of dollars and fancy sports cars

BUMP!!!

BUMP!!!



I knew it.  ;D ;D ;D ;D



Cat

I would totally bump tom cruise...

Gotta read this one again!!  ;D

I've been trying to but it makes my ass ache.

I've been trying to but it makes my ass ache.


yer doin' that wrong too!!!

I've been trying to but it makes my ass ache.


And your finger hurts too?  Hmmm....

And your finger hurts too?  Hmmm....


;D

I would totally bump tom cruise...



I wouldn't.  8-P



Cat

And your finger hurts too?  Hmmm....


;D  ;D  ;D  Totally unrelated, I assure you.  

I would totally bump tom cruise...


I'm Tom Cruise (Of Pathmark).

I'm Tom Cruise (Of Pathmark).


You're also the Tom Cruise of Inthe00s.  :)

You're also the Tom Cruise of Inthe00s.   :)


Thank You. :)

And your finger hurts too?  Hmmm....


Takes practice.  Tom can fit his whole head up his...
:-X

Takes practice.  Tom can fit his whole head up his...
:-X


;D ;D Ha ha ha!!

Takes practice.  Tom can fit his whole head up his...
:-X


He would need Katie to do that.

He would need Katie to do that.


;D

He would need Katie to do that.


That's where hers had to be to marry him!
8)

That's where hers had to be to marry him!
8)



He's known for having his head up his ass.

He's known for having his head up his ass.


Like I said, it takes practice.  He's not up there in Scientology because he's a spiritually evolved being!
::)

The only movie I like him is Interview with the Vampire.

I STILL see him a "Joe Goodsen" from Risky Business.  Not even "Charlie Babbitt" from Rain Man, which they still show a dozen times a year on TV!  Nope, it's always "Joel" no matter the wrinkles and receding hairline.
8)

  Tom will always be "Maverick" the swaggering navy pilot.  Even more so the cackling sorcerer who force-shocked Oprah...

  Ah, those were the days... :-\\

I liked him in Risky Business.

I actually like him in most of his movies, not so much the ones he did with Nicole Kidman... Eyes Wide Shut and Far and Away.  I never saw Days of Thunder, so I don't know if they actually had any onscreen chemistry.)

I don't care what he does in his personal life, it doesn't really effect how much I like him as an actor.  Similar to any of the other controversy-ladden actors such as Mel Gibson or I dunno... Robert Downey Jr.

I actually like him in most of his movies, not so much the ones he did with Nicole Kidman... Eyes Wide Shut and Far and Away.  I never saw Days of Thunder, so I don't know if they actually had any onscreen chemistry.)

I don't care what he does in his personal life, it doesn't really effect how much I like him as an actor.  Similar to any of the other controversy-ladden actors such as Mel Gibson or I dunno... Robert Downey Jr.


I loved "Eyes Wide Shut," but I'm a Stanley Kubrick fan.  I liked everything he did except "Barry Lydon."

I thought Eyes Wide Shut was really stupid.



Cat

Takes practice.  Tom can fit his whole head up his...
:-X


;D I owe you karma for this one.

I thought Eyes Wide Shut was really stupid.



Cat



What was wrong with the film?  ???

What was wrong with the film?  ???



I just thought it was stupid. I didn't like it.


Cat

What do you think his best film was?

What do you thinik his best film was?


"Rain Man."  However, Dustin Hoffman as "Raymond" completely dominates the picture. 

"Rain Man."  However, Dustin Hoffman as "Raymond" completely dominates the picture. 


Rain Man was good.

You know, I kinda miss Harmonica...

http://www.davidwygant.com/blog/wp-content/uploads//tom-cruise-couch-jump-oprah.jpg

You know, I kinda miss Harmonica...


I wonder what he's up to

I wonder what he's up to



No good?


Cat

You know, I really really liked him in the last Mission Impossible movie (4?) Ghost Protocol.  It was a well written/acted action movie.

I wonder what he's up to


Working for Rick Santorum!
:D

Working for Rick Santorum!
:D


and still married to Katie Holmes.

and still married to Katie Holmes.


He didn't marry her

He didn't marry her


http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/features/magstories/061204/tom_cruise.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/features/magstories/061204/tom_cruise.jpg


Man, that's one butt-ugly cake!
8-P

I wonder if we should mention this thread in the "Why do women only like tall men" thread as evidence to the contrary?  ;D

I always suspected that he is bisexual or gay and in the closet!  ???

I always suspected that he is bisexual or gay and in the closet!  ???


His sexuality don't make no nevermind, dude, he's a SCIENTOLOGIST, they're crazier than a rat in a tin sh*thouse.  There ain't nothing but rice pudding left between that boy's ears!
:D :D

I wonder if we should mention this thread in the "Why do women only like tall men" thread as evidence to the contrary?  ;D


not necessary.

I always suspected that he is bisexual or gay and in the closet!  ???


why? just because he paraded around in his underwear in 1983's Risky Business?

I wonder if we should mention this thread in the "Why do women only like tall men" thread as evidence to the contrary?  ;D


Doesn't prove much...not many women I know actually like him.  I know his being in a movie is usually enough to make me avoid the movie. ;D

His sexuality don't make no nevermind, dude, he's a SCIENTOLOGIST, they're crazier than a rat in a tin sh*thouse.  There ain't nothing but rice pudding left between that boy's ears!
:D :D

Amen brother!

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/features/magstories/061204/tom_cruise.jpg


If you follow the above conversation people were actually asking about Harmonica not Tom Cruise

I wonder if we should mention this thread in the "Why do women only like tall men" thread as evidence to the contrary?  ;D


Hell, you could use me as Exhibit B.  :P

His sexuality don't make no nevermind, dude, he's a SCIENTOLOGIST, they're crazier than a rat in a tin sh*thouse.  There ain't nothing but rice pudding left between that boy's ears!
:D :D


Scientology, scientology, scientology. Oh God! I better snap out of my trance!  ;D

His sexuality don't make no nevermind, dude, he's a SCIENTOLOGIST, they're crazier than a rat in a tin sh*thouse.  There ain't nothing but rice pudding left between that boy's ears!
:D :D


Him and John Travolta. What are those boys getting up to!?  ::)



"News of an incredibly graphic $2 million lawsuit by a “John Doe” masseur against John Travolta, which broke Monday, may have come as a surprise to some fans of the actor, who projects an image of a smiling heartthrob onscreen and an adoring family man off....

....For anyone who’s been following Travolta’s life off-screen, however, tabloid-ready gay sex allegations—usually in spas or health clubs—have persisted for years.

....On May 8, 1990, The National Enquirer ran a cover story describing an alleged affair between Travolta and Paul Barresi, a gay porn star. According to Barresi, the two met in 1982, after the actor allegedly followed him into the shower room of a Los Angeles health club, and the relationship lasted for two years. Barresi reportedly received $100,000 from the Enquirer for his Travolta story, but retracted it several months later under what he later alleged was legal pressure from Travolta’s attorneys. While Barresi is not the most credible of witnesses, having inserted himself into several high-profile celebrity scandals over the years, he did snag a speaking role in the 1985 Travolta film Perfect."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/09/john-travolta-s-masseur-lawsuits-part-of-a-long-history-of-gay-rumors.html

Him and John Travolta. What are those boys getting up to!?  ::)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-L4VvWHrVc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-L4VvWHrVc


;D

Whether someone is gay, straight, bi, tri (they will try anything), asexual, whatever-does it really matter? It is WHO you are not WHAT you are. And what people do in their bedrooms-as long as it is with consenting adults, is really nobody's business but theirs. And if they want to publicly announce who they love-again, as long as it is with consenting adults-there isn't a problem!


Cat 

Doesn't prove much...not many women I know actually like him.  I know his being in a movie is usually enough to make me avoid the movie. ;D
I've been in love with him since 1982  :P

Whether someone is gay, straight, bi, tri (they will try anything), asexual, whatever-does it really matter? It is WHO you are not WHAT you are. And what people do in their bedrooms-as long as it is with consenting adults, is really nobody's business but theirs. And if they want to publicly announce who they love-again, as long as it is with consenting adults-there isn't a problem!


Cat



Great post!!! Thanks for saying what I was thinking of saying.

Whether someone is gay, straight, bi, tri (they will try anything), asexual, whatever-does it really matter? It is WHO you are not WHAT you are. And what people do in their bedrooms-as long as it is with consenting adults, is really nobody's business but theirs. And if they want to publicly announce who they love-again, as long as it is with consenting adults-there isn't a problem!


I don't have a problem with it.  Most of Hollywood no longer has a problem with it.  But a certain cult leader appears to have had a serious problem with it.

It's almost like folks like Travolta and Cruise (assuming the rumors were true, and they're none of our business) were looking for an organization that would "cure them", and landed on the wrong organization.  Never mind the Xenu story from Trapped in the Closet (South Park, Season 9, Episode 12) (RIP, Chef, I'm surprised the cult let you stay with that show as long as it did!), but apparently putting homosexuals in "permanent quarantine" is part of what Scientologists actually believe.

I've been in love with him since 1982  :P


Okay, so only one woman I know loves him. :D

Whether someone is gay, straight, bi, tri (they will try anything), asexual, whatever-does it really matter? It is WHO you are not WHAT you are. And what people do in their bedrooms-as long as it is with consenting adults, is really nobody's business but theirs. And if they want to publicly announce who they love-again, as long as it is with consenting adults-there isn't a problem!


Cat


I have no problem with his sexuality. I'm just wondering if being in the closet, or keeping a secret, straight or gay, can drive a person nuts! Kinda like his 'couch' incident on Oprah! But gotta give you karma for this statement!  8)

I've been in love with him since 1982  :P


what about when he paraded around in his underwear in Risky Business?

what about when he paraded around in his underwear in Risky Business?


that was 1983 Howard.  I actually became aware of him in 82 after I saw him in Taps....II noticed him first in 81 when he was in Endless Love but fell for him in 82 when I finally got around to seeing Taps....

Okay, so only one woman I know loves him. :D


Two.  Love alot of his movies.  I could care less if he's gay, straight, bi, tri, trans or whatever else they come up with.  I could care less if he worships the man in the moon.  He seems like a caring father and that is cool.  I don't really pay much attention to people's private lives.

Two.  Love alot of his movies.  I could care less if he's gay, straight, bi, tri, trans or whatever else they come up with.  I could care less if he worships the man in the moon.  He seems like a caring father and that is cool.  I don't really pay much attention to people's private lives.


agreed....aside from that crazy scientology shyt I think he's a great guy!  seems like a lot of fun. genuinely interested in people and his fans (not that I've ever met him  :( )  and totally devoted to his kids.

that was 1983 Howard.  I actually became aware of him in 82 after I saw him in Taps....II noticed him first in 81 when he was in Endless Love but fell for him in 82 when I finally got around to seeing Taps....



I think I told you that I used to work with the guy who played the sheriff in Taps.


Cat

I think I told you that I used to work with the guy who played the sheriff in Taps.


Cat


I think I've heard about him a couple of times  :D

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/risky_business.jpg


that's your best post ever! lol!  ;D

that's your best post ever! lol!  ;D


sorry about the RED X.

sorry about the RED X.


I didn't see a red x....all I got was a blank post

Two.  Love alot of his movies.  I could care less if he's gay, straight, bi, tri, trans or whatever else they come up with.  I could care less if he worships the man in the moon.  He seems like a caring father and that is cool.  I don't really pay much attention to people's private lives.


I couldn't care less about his sexuality (that's between him and Katie) or religion.  I just have never liked him. 

http://www.funnycelebpics.com/system/items/85246.jpg

fat Tom Cruise.  ;D

I loved him in MI1 and 2. For some reason I didn't like MI3. But MI4 is great.

To be honest I don't thinK I've ever seen any other Tom Cruise movies besides the Mission Impossible series!

I loved him in MI1 and 2. For some reason I didn't like MI3. But MI4 is great.

To be honest I don't thinK I've ever seen any other Tom Cruise movies besides the Mission Impossible series!


I didn't like mi 2 but I did like mi 3

Taps is a great film - technically it's a Timothy Hutton film
All the Right Moves - is fantastic
Risky business - is a classic & should be heralded w/ Ferris Buellers Day off (which I don't really like but I see why others do)
Rain Man - is good
Born on the Fourth of july - is kinda full of itself
Legend - sucked
Losin it - was 80s crap
Lestat - sucked
Top Gun - was awesome in a cheesy 80s way
Days of thunder - was on steroids
Far and away - didn't see it
Last samurai - didn't see it
Eyes wide shut - didn't want to see it
Vanilla sky - I think I'm the only person who liked it
Magnolia - was really well done

What am I missing?
I didn't count outsiders and endless love because his roles were minimal.
He was in recognizable in Tropic Thunder.

What am I missing?


Minority Report, which I thought was one of his better movies.

And he also played Austin Powers in Austinpussy.  :D

I didn't like mi 2 but I did like mi 3

Taps is a great film - technically it's a Timothy Hutton film
All the Right Moves - is fantastic
Risky business - is a classic & should be heralded w/ Ferris Buellers Day off (which I don't really like but I see why others do)
Rain Man - is good
Born on the Fourth of july - is kinda full of itself
Legend - sucked
Losin it - was 80s crap
Lestat - sucked
Top Gun - was awesome in a cheesy 80s way
Days of thunder - was on steroids
Far and away - didn't see it
Last samurai - didn't see it
Eyes wide shut - didn't want to see it
Vanilla sky - I think I'm the only person who liked it
Magnolia - was really well done

What am I missing?
I didn't count outsiders and endless love because his roles were minimal.
He was in recognizable in Tropic Thunder.



Eyes Wide Shut, it is the only Stanley Kubrick film I have not seen properly all the way through!

Eyes Wide Shut, it is the only Stanley Kubrick film I have not seen properly all the way through!


So long as you've seen the masked ball scene!
:o

I didn't like mi 2 but I did like mi 3

Taps is a great film - technically it's a Timothy Hutton film
All the Right Moves - is fantastic
Risky business - is a classic & should be heralded w/ Ferris Buellers Day off (which I don't really like but I see why others do)
Rain Man - is good
Born on the Fourth of july - is kinda full of itself
Legend - sucked
Losin it - was 80s crap
Lestat - sucked
Top Gun - was awesome in a cheesy 80s way
Days of thunder - was on steroids
Far and away - didn't see it
Last samurai - didn't see it
Eyes wide shut - didn't want to see it
Vanilla sky - I think I'm the only person who liked it
Magnolia - was really well done

What am I missing?
I didn't count outsiders and endless love because his roles were minimal.
He was in recognizable in Tropic Thunder.


By "Lestat" do you mean "Interview with the Vampire?"

I like that one...

Minority Report, which I thought was one of his better movies.

And he also played Austin Powers in Austinpussy.  :D


I liked Monority Report too.

Also A Few Good Men - another great movie.

Minority Report, which I thought was one of his better movies.

And he also played Austin Powers in Austinpussy.  :D





I've never been an Austin powers fan so that one wasn't even on my radar


Minority report was good and writer Scott frank is a ucsb alum..... I'm embarrassed I left it off.  To be fair tho I totallypuuled listed out of the air...not once did I have to peek at imdb  :D

Eyes Wide Shut, it is the only Stanley Kubrick film I have not seen properly all the way through!



You've see more than I have.


So long as you've seen the masked ball scene!
:o



I have not...lcolor me not intrigued  :P

By "Lestat" do you mean "Interview with the Vampire?"

I like that one...



Yes...laid I mention I pulled list out of my ass? I always refer to that flick as the crappy lest at movie  :-\\


I liked Monority Report too.

Also A Few Good Men - another great movie.





Dammit... I love a few Good men I hate when i forget stuff






I Also forgot war of the worlds.  It was okay for escapist fantasy but not a must see movie

I've never been an Austin powers fan so that one wasn't even on my radar


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmHj8wwf-I

Mission: Impossible 5 (announced)
Ethan Hunt

???? Top Gun 2 (announced)
Maverick (rumored)

???? Van Helsing (announced)

2013 All You Need Is Kill (pre-production)

2013 Oblivion (filming)
Jack

2012 One Shot (post-production)
Jack Reacher

2012 Rock of Ages (completed)
Stacee Jaxx

2011 Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol Didn't see
Ethan Hunt

2010 Knight and Day Didn't see
Roy Miller

2008 Valkyrie Didn't see
Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg

2008 Tropic Thunder Didn't see
Les Grossman - Grossman's Office

2007 Lions for Lambs Didn't see
Senator Jasper Irving

2006 Mission: Impossible III Didn't see
Ethan Hunt

2005 War of the Worlds Didn't see
Ray Ferrier

2004 Collateral Didn't see
Vincent

2003 The Last Samurai Didn't see
Nathan Algren

2002 Minority Report Didn't see
Chief John Anderton

2001 Vanilla Sky Didn't see
David Aames

2000 Mission: Impossible II Didn't see
Ethan Hunt

1999 Magnolia Didn't see.
Frank T.J. Mackey

1999 Eyes Wide Shut Hated it!  8-P
Dr. William 'Bill' Harford

1996 Jerry Maguire Ok-I think I have on VHS
Jerry Maguire

1996 Mission: Impossible Don't care too much for that genre
Ethan Hunt

1994 Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles Ok flick
Lestat de Lioncourt

1993 The Firm Good flick-but the book was WAY better.
Mitch McDeere

1992 A Few Good Men Good Flick
Lt. Daniel Kaffee

1992 Far and Away Good flick
Joseph Donnelly

1990 Days of Thunder Never saw
Cole Trickle

1989 Born on the Fourth of July Wasn't too impressed
Ron Kovic

1988 Rain Man Good Flick-have on VHS
Charlie Babbitt

1988 Cocktail Ok flick-have on VHS
Brian Flanagan

1986 The Color of Money Ok flick
Vincent Lauria

1986 Top Gun Good Flick
Maverick

1985 Legend Saw it but don't remember it too much.
Jack

1983 All the Right Moves Never saw it
Stefen Djordjevic

1983 Risky Business Classic-Love it
Joel Goodsen

1983 Losin' It Cute
Woody

1983 The Outsiders Good Flick
Steve Randle

1981 Taps Good flick and I have on DVD
Cadet Captain David Shawn

1981 Endless Love Ok


Cat

God I forgot a lot lol


Love Jerry Maguire


The firm was a way better book but the movie was alright


Color of money was okay


Cocktail was cheesy as hell but I love it anyway


Collateral was great


Far and away for some reason I never got around to seeing it


Lions for lambs and valkyrie I havent seen but plan too


Knight and day was a good action rom "com". Like mr & mrs smith or um.... Some other flick like it  :D

Minority Report, which I thought was one of his better movies.

And he also played Austin Powers in Austinpussy.  :D


Austinpussy? ???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFmHj8wwf-I


he sure does a good impression. ;D

You've see more than I have.




I have not...lcolor me not intrigued  :P


Music: "Backwards Priest" by Jocelyn Pook, a British composer and violist.

It's the music that makes the magic for me!  Have a listen!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTnk7vLScZA

Wendy Carlos: The Shining
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t60oY0TbTU&feature=related

Wendy Carols: A Clockwork Orange
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqTfaaBVquY
after Music for the Funeral of Queen Mary by Henry Percell

I didn't like mi 2 but I did like mi 3

Taps is a great film - technically it's a Timothy Hutton film
All the Right Moves - is fantastic
Risky business - is a classic & should be heralded w/ Ferris Buellers Day off (which I don't really like but I see why others do)
Rain Man - is good
Born on the Fourth of july - is kinda full of itself
Legend - sucked
Losin it - was 80s crap
Lestat - sucked
Top Gun - was awesome in a cheesy 80s way
Days of thunder - was on steroids
Far and away - didn't see it
Last samurai - didn't see it
Eyes wide shut - didn't want to see it
Vanilla sky - I think I'm the only person who liked it
Magnolia - was really well done

What am I missing?
I didn't count outsiders and endless love because his roles were minimal.
He was in recognizable in Tropic Thunder.


I might rent some of those one day! 8)

Losin it - was 80s crap


But worth seeing for nothing else than John Valby's cameo as the whorehouse piano singer.  ("KNOCK KNOCK!" "Who's there?" "Tijuana!" "Tijuana who?" "Tijuana take your mother to the Gang Bang...")

John Valby's still playing in the Northeastern US.  He's been doing this for 40 years and I don't think he's ever stopped playing.

But worth seeing for nothing else than John Valby's cameo as the whorehouse piano singer.  ("KNOCK KNOCK!" "Who's there?" "Tijuana!" "Tijuana who?" "Tijuana take your mother to the Gang Bang...")

John Valby's still playing in the Northeastern US.  He's been doing this for 40 years and I don't think he's ever stopped playing.


Tia wanna take your mother to the Gang Bang?!?  :o :o :o


(And I have heard of John Valby before, he's hilarious!)

Tia wanna take your mother to the Gang Bang?!?  :o :o :o


Warning, NSFW audio:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9N7LAuKGRo

  - John Valby, Gang Bang, Hebron, NY, Feb 2012.

is the punk open about his gayness yet, or still in that closet?

They showed "Losin' It" on AMC last night.  I still have a crush on Shelley Long, so I couldn't watch the motel scene.
8-P

They showed "Losin' It" on AMC last night.  I still have a crush on Shelley Long, so I couldn't watch the motel scene.
8-P


I've always had a crush on her too.  *sigh*

They showed "Losin' It" on AMC last night.  I still have a crush on Shelley Long, so I couldn't watch the motel scene.
8-P



I've always had a crush on her too.  *sigh*


"This term describes four golfers playing as a group."

"This term describes four golfers playing as a group."


LMAO!!  You're bad...

LMAO!!  You're bad...


What, we just wanna go where everybody knows our name.  Cheers!

But worth seeing for nothing else than John Valby's cameo as the whorehouse piano singer.  ("KNOCK KNOCK!" "Who's there?" "Tijuana!" "Tijuana who?" "Tijuana take your mother to the Gang Bang...")

John Valby's still playing in the Northeastern US.  He's been doing this for 40 years and I don't think he's ever stopped playing.



I remember that part of the movie but don't know who it was.



Cat

I remember that part of the movie but don't know who it was.


Neither did I until many years later.  'Twas an eye (and ear-) opener, to be sure.

Now he's back on the market who wants him?

Now he's back on the market who wants him?


I already claimed him so people can just back off  :P

I already claimed him so people can just back off  :P


If it were up to me, you could have him. 

If it were up to me, you could have him.


Hey Tom. Dag said I could have you! Let's do this thing  :D

If it were up to me, you could have him.


you could fight for him.

you could fight for him.


Why would I fight?  I don't want him...I gave him up to her.

Hey Tom. Dag said I could have you! Let's do this thing  :D


Good luck :D

Such a rude thread.  Tom Cruise is the greatest actor on Earth! >:(

Why would I fight?  I don't want him...I gave him up to her.



Howard just wants us to mud wrestle.  ;D


Good luck :D



THANKS!!!!

This time, though, she is dumping him.  The other two it was the other way around.

Hey Tom. Dag said I could have you! Let's do this thing  :D


good luck Mrs.Cruise  ;D

Howard just wants us to mud wrestle.  ;D


THANKS!!!!


I meant the both of you can duke it out.

I meant the both of you can duke it out.


But. She. Isn't. Interested. In. Him.

Happy Birthday Tom!

Happy Birthday Tom!


He doesn't look 50.

I am looking forward to "Mission: Impossible 5" to be released next year.

Imagine Tom at 90, the movie will be called The Mission Is Impossible.  :o  :o

Imagine Tom at 90, the movie will be called The Mission Is Impossible.  :o  :o


;D

Imagine Tom at 90, the movie will be called The Mission Is Impossible.  :o  :o
...alternative title "Motion Impossible!"

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/08/23E2A95A00000578-2865857-image-m-83_1418064290980.jpg

Isabella Cruise

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/12/08/23E2A95A00000578-2865857-image-m-83_1418064290980.jpg

Isabella Cruise
now a hairdresser in the UK.