I like eating turkey for Thanksgiving, they are yummy.....

i remember i went fishing once with my grandfather when i was a little kid and we caught one and i sat and watched in horror as it slowly twitched and suffocated on the floor of the boat.


That's why whenever we went fishing, we brought along a billy club.  A few whacks upside the head, and you no longer have to worry about that.  We either used that or a "stringer", so they could stay alive in the water until we were ready to go.


dag! peta sure isn't too popular these days! a lot of their tactics ARE pretty obnoxious and i imagine a lot of peta folks are probably annoying to be around -- they don't seem to have much of a sense of humor -- but then again, they DO have a point that animals get treated very brutally in slaughterhouses and such. you know, clubbed, then hung upside down and having their throats slit till they bleed to death. pretty horrifying stuff.

of course, i say this while eating a meat lasagna so you know... just playing devil's advocate. again. i don't seem to be able to resist.


PETA is nothing but a bunch of nutcase hyprcrites.  Did you hear anything earlier in the year, about their own pet adoption program?

http://www.fbresearch.org/Deathvan/timeline.htm

IN short, they had groups from all over the country who would go to shelters and pick up animals, claiming that they would find homes for them.  In reality, they were illegally killing them, often within minutes of leaving the shelter!  A great many shelters nationwide are now forbidden from allowing PETA to even adopt animals from their shelters.

Of course, it does not help that they also openly support terrorist groups like ELF.

yeah, i'm not really a big peta advocate. i figure their tactics probably do disservice to the cause, in all honesty. i know slaughterhouse conditions are tangential at best to the issue about fishing but they really are quite horrific.

anyway, i think the problem is fundamentalism, in the sense of being essentially convinced of your own rightness. and that's the thing with peta, just like with a lot of extremists of whatever stripe -- it's impossible to have a conversation with a peta-er oftentimes without their freaking out and coming down on ya. and a lot of born-agains are the same way.

having said that, i'm not sure i've ever even actually met a member of peta. i'm sure i must have met a couple in college but i didn't know who they were. i smoked back in those days and i was walking to class one time and i flicked a butt on the ground and this one woman points at me and starts howling "not biodegradable! not biodegradable!" it was freaky, sorta like a scene outta invasion of the body snatchers. i imagine she was probably a peta-er, as well as, you know, maybe a member of the weathermen.

(i mean "weatherpeople"! sorry!)

having said that, i'm not sure i've ever even actually met a member of peta. i'm sure i must have met a couple in college but i didn't know who they were. i smoked back in those days and i was walking to class one time and i flicked a butt on the ground and this one woman points at me and starts howling "not biodegradable! not biodegradable!" it was freaky, sorta like a scene outta invasion of the body snatchers. i imagine she was probably a peta-er, as well as, you know, maybe a member of the weathermen.


In California, you can't help but to run into them from time to time.  Among a lot of the Hollyweird "in crowd", it is a popular thing to belong to PETA.

Back in the early 1990's, I belonged to a local BBS in the LA area.  (for those that do not know, BBS is what we did with our computers and modems to chat before there was an Internet).  We had one joker who called himself "Ban Meat".  He would constantly be giving sermons in the open rooms, telling us all about how meat and leather and even owning pets is cruelty.

My fiancee used to love baiting him.  When he got around to talking about how evil Milk is, she asked him if she should breastfeed when our son was born.  He said "Of course not!  Soy formula is better for babies."  And since this BBS was fairly liberal, there were a lot of mothers who believed in doing things "naturally".  You should have seen the mothers pouncing on him at that point.  They would be posting quotes from La Leche League, and even posts from the Formula companies themselves, stating that Natural is best, Milk based formula is good, and Soy is only to be used if the baby can't digest anything else.

But he was so sure he was right, nothing could convince him.  And I agree with you about fundamentalists.  I myself use the term "extreemist", because not all fundamentalists try to force their views on others.

And remind me to tell you all someday about the Toyota Camery XLE V-6 I saw on the LA freeway, which was covered with PETA, "Meat Is Dead" and almost every other nutcase bumpersticker on it.  And no, the owner did not replace the seats, so she was driving around with her posterior resting on leather.    :D

after you read the comic you can play the "free the fur from J-Lo" game....

http://www.furisdead.com/feat-monsterinfur.asp

I could care less about J.Lo.  ;D

meh, just replace "puppy" with "yuppie" and everyone, even PETA, will be happy.  ;D

I like eating turkey for Thanksgiving....


I thought thanksgiving was an American holiday.

After reading a separate topic post on Edward Furlong (actor) being arrested for letting lobsters in a grocery store tank loose to run around IN THE STORE...he claims to be PETA friendly and although in a drunk stupor doing what he did...DID YOU HEAR PETA DENOUNCE HIM OR WHAT HE DID??

They'll take anyone and not criticize when the actions are perspammersite!!

okay, wait, so now i'm cornered into sticking up for peta again. i mean, okay, yes, like, they're obnoxious, but are they really obligated to disassociate themselves from every drunk who liberates supermarket lobsters in their name? particularly if he's doing it strictly freelance? if i go out tomorrow and start doing all this pro-NAMBLA stuff, and i attribute it to the ACLU just because they defended NAMBLA that one time, do they have to drop everything and convene a press conference to explicitly and specifically disavow all knowledge of me? for that matter, if i go on a shooting spree and tell everybody the NRA made me do it, is it up to them to explicitly point out that i'm full of bullfeathers? i rather think not!

dag.

okay, wait, so now i'm cornered into sticking up for peta again. i mean, okay, yes, like, they're obnoxious, but are they really obligated to disassociate themselves from every drunk who liberates supermarket lobsters in their name? particularly if he's doing it strictly freelance? if i go out tomorrow and start doing all this pro-NAMBLA stuff, and i attribute it to the ACLU just because they defended NAMBLA that one time, do they have to drop everything and convene a press conference to explicitly and specifically disavow all knowledge of me? for that matter, if i go on a shooting spree and tell everybody the NRA made me do it, is it up to them to explicitly point out that i'm full of bullfeathers? i rather think not!

dag.


Don't you think you'd be associated with the company you keep...? Actually, ACLU is fighting for the guy's rights rather than NAMBLA'S cause from what I last heard..

But even PETA didn't denounce the one drunks actions, but when he may show up somewhere in corncob shoes made of none leather, they'll be taking pictures and quoting him til the sun comes up.

well, we'll have to disagree, i guess, but i like this mental image of drunks liberating supermarket lobsters. i'm picturing him staggering around trying to push em on the rumps and get em motivated. lobsters don't exactly leap like gazelles, ya know? :D

Actually, ACLU is fighting for the guy's rights.....


Yeah, a guy's "right" to have sex with a ten year-old boy.

I personally don't agree with fishing for fun, but I do think if you have to fish to survive, it's your right. Same with killing puppies. It's our nature. Eat what you need to survive.


And uh... yeah... I'm not sure if anyone wants to eat puppies, but...

I personally don't agree with fishing for fun, but I do think if you have to fish to survive, it's your right. Same with killing puppies. It's our nature. Eat what you need to survive.

And uh... yeah... I'm not sure if anyone wants to eat puppies, but...


Actually, most people fish for enjoyment.  And a lot of them also follow "catch and release" rules.  In other words, if they are not going to eat it, they let it go again.  I have spent many hours fishing, with no intention of keeping what I caught.  And if the fish is out of season, endangered, to large, or to small you have to release it anyways.

Plus you will find a lot of the fish that people catch are not available in other ways.  I have never found pearch, sunfish, coho salmon, or brown trout in a fish market.

And yes, people do eat puppies.  It is not uncommon in Korea or China.  And in pre-columbian Mexico it was also quite common.

Yeah, a guy's "right" to have sex with a ten year-old boy.

The ACLU doesn't support that...they do support a guy's right to talk about it.  It's awful and disgusting, but not unconstitutional.
:P

We had Thanksgiving in Canada, last October, on the 10th.  It's celebrated every October, on the second Monday.

Bass, the greatest tasting fish (besides trout, corvina, tuna (dolphin free), pan fish, cat fish...)  And speaking of cats (and Cat), the other white meat, tastes just like chicken (well, not Cat).  And, there is nothing like puppy dogs fricasee, so tender and juicy.

  YUMMY YUM YUM

don carlos! yer scarin' me! and that's not easy! :D

tell me you haven't eaten cat.

er, feline.