I didn't think this is political so I am entering the inquiry here:

Many are trying to have the death penalty for the former Crips Founder...

The typical..Mike Farrell..etc.. gee where were they when the killings by his actions were news..

The reports are he wants a fair trial..sure took a long time to realize he didn't get one hmm?

Then all the supposed 'GOOD' deeds he did are being mentioned while the victims are DEAD and long gone...
I put this out for discussion..what I hear is BIG DEAL he's just a con who's a CON.

Tookie ANTI DEATH supporters are steaming mad at the radio hosts who are doing a 'Kill Tookie Hour' on their show regullarly..

The advocates claim the host(s) is racist with a remark added how if anyone did a 'Kill President Bush Hour' it would be yanked, fined etc....

Uh, oone slight problem BUSH WAS NEVER CONVICTED FOR MURDER!!! Oh and EVERY JUDGE APPEALED TO REJECTED IT!

Using him as an example..not knowing the trial and the evidence..does anyone else feel the same?

On the one hand, I'm against the death penalty.  Period.
Objectively, if the punishment forthe crimes of which the Tookie Monster was convicted is death, then Tookie must die even if he became a nice guy in prison.
It goes to a philosophical question.  Is our penal system strictly for punishment, or is there room for reform and penitence (as in penitentiary)?  We allow for parole and time off for good behavior, so can the justice system spare a man's life for good behavior even though the punishment for his crime hasn't been met?

YEAH ! Praise be! Tookie goin back home to hell for Christmas...Why's everyone so upset with dat? ;)

This was the founder of the Crips for crying out loud.  Even if he is not guilty of the crimes he is in prison for, which he probably is, I'm sure he has murdered someone before.  Even if he hasn't murdered before, I'm sure he has ordered, watched or has knowledge of multiple murders. 

I'm not upset that he is going to be executed, after all that's what the jury decided, but I really don't feel that a state has the right to take someone's life, regardless of the crime they commit.  Maybe life in solitary would be better.

He is gonna be executed...this is from AOL's news page.http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20051211092309990002&ncid=NWS00010000000001

if he murdered anyone the motherf*cker deserves to rot in H*LL.

Bottom line with Tookie is that although he claims to have "redeemed himself", he has failed to cooperate with the police, and he has never renounced or apologized for his heinous crime.

As somebody mentioned here earlier, the concept of PUNISHMENT applies here.  The PENALTY for murdering four people is death.  Off with his 'nads, I say.

By the way, it is not like he killd 4 other people in some sort of drug deal.  Three of his victims were a couple and their daughter (maybe son, I forget)

Bye Bye Tookie, Ol' Scratch has the weenie roast all ready for you..and any other murdering Crip or Blood SOB that gets the death penalty!

25-26 years is too long to be on death row. I think most everyone would be a different person,  reformed, changed, perhaps spiritually awoken and in no way the same person when arrived. I take no pleasure in him dying, I only wish the victims had been given an appeal or a chance at clemency before they were torn apart by shotgun blasts to the back, face. I believe if I do somethin like that, then I should forfeit my life as payment for the one I took. I would expect it as punishment. I think his death can be a stronger message to young urbanite potential gang members than any book he has or would write. Now he gets to show them what price you can pay for that lifestyle of crime and murder. Goodbye Stanley Williams

Looks like they decided to continue with it

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4523502.stm

Dirt bag got what he had coming.  Let's hope that more of his buddies get the same.

California got one right this morning.

This is what really makes up my mind for me.....how much can he have changed if he's refusing to talk about other crimes he witnessed, ordered, knew about, did himself, etc ?


One thing I find interesting is that while he was in jail, he commited numerous assaults against guards and other inmates.  He was in Solitary until the early 1990's, when he suddenly "reformed".

Then again, the time he reformed himself was the same time that California finally started to enforce their death penalty.  I guess that is when he finally realized that yes, they were eventually going to get around to executing him. hat is when he started to write children's books, and became this reformed prisoner.  However, he still was an active member of the CRIPs gang, even inside of prison.  And his son even spent some time in jail with him, being convicted of 2nd Degree Murder in 1994.

And despite the evidence against him, he maintained his innocence until the end.  I could give him a lot more respect if he had admitted to what he had done, and actually done something about gang violence.  Instead, he only paid it lip service, and maintained his gang contacts both in and out of prison.


Tookie ANTI DEATH supporters are steaming mad at the radio hosts who are doing a 'Kill Tookie Hour' on their show regullarly..

The advocates claim the host(s) is racist with a remark added how if anyone did a 'Kill President Bush Hour' it would be yanked, fined etc....


The John And Ken Show is constantly a target of groups like this.  And as a long-time listener to their show (over 10 years), I can assure you there is nothing Racial in their support of the Death Penalty.  They went after Robert Blake and Scott Peterson just as hard as they went after OJ Simpson and Tookie Williams.  They simply see criminal scum as criminal scum, and it is simple as that.