http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html

He should be  captured. Then again, that was over 25 years ago and he only raped one person...who's still alive

He might as well get 10 years in prison.

He should be  captured. Then again, that was over 25 years ago and he only raped one person...who's still alive

He might as well get 10 years in prison.
Crime is crime...there is no time limit. He's a F*cking idiot who should get life without parole as if it were yesterday because he's been free all this time :-\\

Lesile Van Hooten and Susan Atkins.

He should be brought to justice, but it's very unlikely he will be.

I say go get him.  I don't care who he is, what he did was wrong and he needs to be brough to justice.


Lesile Van Hooten and Susan Atkins.


What do they have to do with this question?

I say go get him.  I don't care who he is, what he did was wrong and he needs to be brough to justice.

What do they have to do with this question?


They are the murderers of his Polanski's wife.

They are the murderers of his Polanski's wife.


what does his wife's murder have to do with him being held responsible for raping a 13 year old girl?

Charge him.

Polanski is exiled in France, so in order for him to be charged, he either needs to set foot in the US (with the governments knowledge) or be extradicted.  France wont extradict him because they believe that his charge is not worth extradiction.  THe only way he can be charged is if he comes back home (which he's been carefully avoiding). 

I dont know if there is a statute of limitations on Statutory Rape (if there is its probable something like 30 years), but it doesnt matter...since Polanski fled the country there has been a "Time-out" for the age of the crime...meaning that the clock is officially haulted until he enters the US again.  So that statute of limitations has no bearing. 

Okay...someone voted leave him alonehttp://www.geocities.com/klaatu_77/slap.gif

Okay...someone voted leave him alonehttp://www.geocities.com/klaatu_77/slap.gif

maybe he's a board member   :D

maybe he's a board member   :D
probably, or it could be the return of "Robbo" ::)

Charge him.


There's nothing to charge him with, except for fleeing the jurisdiction.

He was already convicted of the child rape.

My opinion?  We ought to tag his butt with one of those Predator drones.  Track his sorry self down and launch a hellfire missile at him.

And film it all in living color.

France will not extradite him 'cause he is a french citizen.

There's nothing to charge him with, except for fleeing the jurisdiction.

He was already convicted of the child rape.

My opinion?  We ought to tag his butt with one of those Predator drones.  Track his sorry self down and launch a hellfire missile at him.

And film it all in living color.

France will not extradite him 'cause he is a french citizen.
I wish that guy "Dog" the bounty hunter, would go and bring him backl.

Crime is crime...there is no time limit. He's a F*cking idiot who should get life without parole as if it were yesterday because he's been free all this time :-\\



I agree whole heartedly >:(

I agree whole heartedly >:(
Thanks, and believe me, if I had enough money, I'd go get his sorry @ss myself!

Probably proof that cad Polanski had propositioned younger women at his wife Sharon Tate's funeral (according to a witness in a recent magazine interview), leading to he pedophiliac ways. To go further (though I can't prove it), Polanski left for Europe after an argument with Sharon the morning she and her friends were murdered by the Manson family. He wasn't that broken up when he found out she was dead, so I assumed he didn't care much for her or her friends. Typical of a selfish uber-director.  >:(
what does his wife's murder have to do with him being held responsible for raping a 13 year old girl?

Probably proof that cad Polanski had propositioned younger women at his wife Sharon Tate's funeral (according to a witness in a recent magazine interview), leading to he pedophiliac ways. To go further (though I can't prove it), Polanski left for Europe after an argument with Sharon the morning she and her friends were murdered by the Manson family. He wasn't that broken up when he found out she was dead, so I assumed he didn't care much for her or her friends. Typical of a selfish uber-director.  >:(
He actually won an 87,000 dollar libel suit just the other day. The magazine claimed it was during the funeral when in actuality it was a couple weeks after. BTW, the judge allowed him to video testify because of his concern that he's be arrested if he showed up in person ::) Hey, maybe it was Judge Ito :P

30 years is what  I would except


Though he might be a changed man who have found Scientology...  ::)

They are the murderers of his Polanski's wife.


I knew that, but like Whitewolf said...what does that have to do with him raping a 13 year old?

I knew that, but like Whitewolf said...what does that have to do with him raping a 13 year old?
It's because it's connected to what a creep he is...though like I said, he won a recent court case against a tabloid because they said he was with someone else at the time of Sharon Tate's murder, it is fact that he indeed was with someone 2 weeks later....just an overview really.

Gotta love those French people..for going along with whatever laws they made regarding CRIMINALS from other countries...afraid the wolves would get him  if they send him back so, why don't they implement the appropriate punishment?

:o

Gotta love those French people..for going along with whatever laws they made regarding CRIMINALS from other countries...afraid the wolves would get him  if they send him back so, why don't they implement the appropriate punishment?

:o
They'd probably consider This http://www.geocities.com/klaatu_77/slap.gif  appropriate!

It's because it's connected to what a creep he is...though like I said, he won a recent court case against a tabloid because they said he was with someone else at the time of Sharon Tate's murder, it is fact that he indeed was with someone 2 weeks later....just an overview really.


I still don't get the connection.  I don't think he had anything to do with the murder.  This thread isn't about the murder.  It makes no sense to me at all. 

Exactly, crazymom. Roman Polanski is no better than the Mansons if he propositioned anyone at any time after Sharon Tate's death. It shows how quickly Polanski made decisions solely with his one-eyed monster (for lack of a better term). Like Mike Tyson, Polanski is nothing more than a sex-crazed beast. I hope that answers your questions, ladies. 8)
And, the libel case was won because they said he propositioned a Swedish actress/model on the way to the funeral not at the time of the murder.

What do the people who murdered his wife have anything to do with what type of person he is?  And, the libel case was won because they said he propositioned a Swedish actress/model on the way to the funeral not at the time of the murder.
No, I nevcer said that...I only mean the Polanski is a creep for hitting on someone so close to before or after Sharon's funeral. I don't believce at ALL there's any connection to the murders and Polanski.

Sorry, I thought you were trying to say there was a connection as the quote you inserted was Dag's question about what the murderers had to do with the crime he's charged with.
It's cool, Kim ;)

No.  I like Roman Polanski's films.  The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people.  Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings. 
Leave Roman Polanski alone.  He has enriched my life with great cinema. 

Karl Rove on the other hand....

No.  I like Roman Polanski's films.  The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people.  Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings. 
Leave Roman Polanski alone.  He has enriched my life with great cinema. 

Karl Rove on the other hand....
So because he makes great films, in your opinion, he should not be held accountable even though he raped a 13 year old and has basically given US authorities the "Finger"  :o :D

According to the plea deal in place at the time, he wouldn't have served any time in jail.
I wonder why he ran then :-\\ It makes no sense to me ???

I wonder why he ran then :-\\ It makes no sense to me ???


Following his indictment on various sex charges, Polanski agreed to a plea deal that spared him prison time (he had spent about 45 days in jail during a court-ordered psychiatric evaluation). But when it seemed that a Superior Court judge might not honor the deal--and sentence Polanski to prison--the director fled the country.

quote from the link you provided at the beginning of this thread.

No.  I like Roman Polanski's films.  The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people.  Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings. 
Leave Roman Polanski alone.  He has enriched my life with great cinema. 

Karl Rove on the other hand....


that makes no sense....if he committed a crime he should be sent to prison....it makes no difference if he makes good movies....


though, Id also agree with the inverse of the statement...if one continuously makes bad movies he should go to jail lol....lets start with Pauly Shore...

So because he makes great films, in your opinion, he should not be held accountable even though he raped a 13 year old and has basically given US authorities the "Finger"  :o :D

Hey man, this is just a petty issue over which certain people like to ride a moralist high-horsey.  I'm not interested in debating it.

Hey man, this is just a petty issue over which certain people like to ride a moralist high-horsey.  I'm not interested in debating it.
Good 'cause the guy is a rapist bottom line, so there really isn't much left to debate is there?  Unless it's the peole who think he's such a great producer but want to conveniantly overlook that he's also a rapist ::)

what does his wife's murder have to do with him being held responsible for raping a 13 year old girl?


There is a root to all evil, not saying that this is polanski's but it could be.

There is a root to all evil, not saying that this is polanski's but it could be.
ALL I know for sure is that he raped a 13 year old girl. I think it's sick to think that just because he's a good director we should just drop it. Typical celebrity jusice mentality ::)

No. I like Roman Polanski's films. The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people. Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings.
Leave Roman Polanski alone. He has enriched my life with great cinema.

Karl Rove on the other hand....
Roman Polanski RAPED someone! That means HE'S A CRIMINAL. He is FREE TO POSSIBLY RAPE ANOTHER YOUNG GIRL.... >:(

NEVER trivialize RAPE. It happened to me. RAPE is absolutely MONSTROUS. HEINOUS. HORRIBLE. and no you don't 'just get counseling and forget it happened'...it stays with you. I still have nightmares about what happened to me. I still look behind me if I even just THINK someone is following me... :\'(
Let Polanski rot in jail...and the Burning Basement once he's dead.... :(

Hey man, this is just a petty issue over which certain people like to ride a moralist high-horsey. I'm not interested in debating it.


Rape is a petty issue?

There is a root to all evil, not saying that this is polanski's but it could be.


even if it was, his wife's murder would not justify him raping a young girl.

even if it was, his wife's murder would not justify him raping a young girl.


Justify? Hell No.  I study criminals, evil people, read books on them, read about them on the internet, watch documentaries on them.  There's something that makes them all tick, it's not just "because" or chemical imbalances in the brain or some crap like that. They all have something or someone that happened to them.

TonyStewartistheman  had it right when she said, " Let Polanski rot in jail...and the Burning Basement once he's dead.... "

Rape is a petty issue?

No, the dredging up of Polanski's case is.  Just like Teddy Kennedy and Chappaquidick.  Neither one of these crimes were petty.  The pettiness comes from the people who rehash the stories time and again.
Pound the podium and cry for justice on behalf of the victim!  It's great cover for John Walsh-types who are really into what boils down to vindictiveness.  You know who you are out there!  I see through ya like cellophane!

No.  I like Roman Polanski's films.  The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people.  Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings. 
Leave Roman Polanski alone.  He has enriched my life with great cinema. 

Karl Rove on the other hand....


Leave Roman Polanski alone, since his victim says she wants it that way. She was on Larry King a year or so ago and talked about what had happened and how she feels about it today.

As for his films, he should have been put in prison for making depressing films like "Rosemary's Baby".

Leave Roman Polanski alone, since his victim says she wants it that way. She was on Larry King a year or so ago and talked about what had happened and how she feels about it today.

As for his films, he should have been put in prison for making depressing films like "Rosemary's Baby".





Thank you, Z, you make sense!

"Rosemary's Baby" wasn't depressing, it was terrifying.  RB is one of my all-time favorite horror movies.  It's not the Satanism and the supernatural that make it so disturbing, it's the suspense and the treachery.  Guy let's a coven of witches turn his unborn child into the anti-christ in exchange for them summoning Satanic powers to further his acting career!  I mean, the whole thing is just horrible and disgusting!  Mia Farrow couldn't be better as the hapless pale waif, "Rosemary," and then you've got this seemingly charming old couple next door...
OK, don't get me started, I could go on for hours!

Oh okay, so it's alright for him to have raped someone as long as they say they don't want anything done. Too bad the LAW doesn't work that way...see, a crime is a crime. I'm all for forgiveness but that doesn't change the fact that it was a rape!

Wait a minute....you're saying what the victim wants does not matter?
Oh sure, she can forgive him but he still committed a crime and the law says Rape is a crime.

But, if she doesn't want to go relive it again, you're saying she should have to and IMO, that's not right.
I agree that it is bad she would have to relive it...fact is he was already tried found guilty and about to be charged. He fled and should be brought back to face the music.

No.  I like Roman Polanski's films.  The real criminals of this world are those who steal the wealth of the world from the people.  Polanski doesn't even even rank in the top 1000 people who need to be caught and held accountable for the suffering they have caused other human beings. 
Leave Roman Polanski alone.  He has enriched my life with great cinema. 


I am sorry.  He is a pedophile, and needs to be taken down.

Roman pleaded guilty to the charges of Statutory Rape, and of giving Quaalides and Alcohol to a 13 year old girl!  He skipped the country while on bail between the plea and his sentencing hearing.  In fact, in addition to being a fugitive, he is also a registered sex offender.

In his travels, he is very careful where he goes to.  He avoids travel to any countries where there is an extradition treaty with the US that allows the extradition of foreign nationals.  Almost all of his travels are non-stop flights to and from Poland, since even stopping over in a country like England or Norway can result in his ass being pulled off the plane and sent to the US in handcuffs (a'la Bobby Fischer).

In my book, the 3 worst crimes an individual can commit are:

1.  Murder
2.  Assault on a child (Murder, rape, physical assault)
3.  Rape

And I do not care how much he has done in the name of "Art".  In my opinion, these people should be shunned.  I will not see anything made by this man.  I will also not see anything made by Victor Salva (Powder, Jeepers Creepers, Jeepers Creepers 2).  He is a pedophile, having plead guilty in 1988 to 5 felony counts of child molestation, and of videotaping the encounter of himself and a 12 year old boy.

I could not give a damn about art, or culture, or anything else that may come from the minds of sick perverts like this.  They should be shunned by anybody with morals and conscience.

Thank you, Z, you make sense!

"Rosemary's Baby" wasn't depressing, it was terrifying.  RB is one of my all-time favorite horror movies.  It's not the Satanism and the supernatural that make it so disturbing, it's the suspense and the treachery.  Guy let's a coven of witches turn his unborn child into the anti-christ in exchange for them summoning Satanic powers to further his acting career!  I mean, the whole thing is just horrible and disgusting!  Mia Farrow couldn't be better as the hapless pale waif, "Rosemary," and then you've got this seemingly charming old couple next door...
OK, don't get me started, I could go on for hours!


I saw the whole Rosemary's Baby movie just 17 years ago. I'd only seen "snippets" of it before then. I never thought it was terrifying, but it's the first (and one of the few times) in my life where I felt I had been robbed of a good 2 hours of my life after seeing a movie.

I saw the whole Rosemary's Baby movie just 17 years ago. I'd only seen "snippets" of it before then. I never thought it was terrifying, but it's the first (and one of the few times) in my life where I felt I had been robbed of a good 2 hours of my life after seeing a movie.


remember the movie, the Amityville horror?

Get Out!

remember the movie, the Amityville horror?

Get Out!


You're on to something, Jiminy.
Rosemary's Baby, The Birds, Amityville Horror, Targets -- just a few depressing movies that come to mind.

(sorry to get off the topic on this one)

I am sorry.  He is a pedophile, and needs to be taken down.

Roman pleaded guilty to the charges of Statutory Rape, and of giving Quaalides and Alcohol to a 13 year old girl!  He skipped the country while on bail between the plea and his sentencing hearing.  In fact, in addition to being a fugitive, he is also a registered sex offender.

In his travels, he is very careful where he goes to.  He avoids travel to any countries where there is an extradition treaty with the US that allows the extradition of foreign nationals.  Almost all of his travels are non-stop flights to and from Poland, since even stopping over in a country like England or Norway can result in his butt being pulled off the plane and sent to the US in handcuffs (a'la Bobby Fischer).

In my book, the 3 worst crimes an individual can commit are:

1.  Murder
2.  Assault on a child (Murder, rape, physical assault)
3.  Rape

And I do not care how much he has done in the name of "Art".  In my opinion, these people should be shunned.  I will not see anything made by this man.  I will also not see anything made by Victor Salva (Powder, Jeepers Creepers, Jeepers Creepers 2).  He is a pedophile, having plead guilty in 1988 to 5 felony counts of child molestation, and of videotaping the encounter of himself and a 12 year old boy.

I could not give a darn about art, or culture, or anything else that may come from the minds of sick perverts like this.  They should be shunned by anybody with morals and conscience.
I could not have said it better myself!

No, the dredging up of Polanski's case is. Just like Teddy Kennedy and Chappaquidick. Neither one of these crimes were petty. The pettiness comes from the people who rehash the stories time and again.
Pound the podium and cry for justice on behalf of the victim! It's great cover for John Walsh-types who are really into what boils down to vindictiveness. You know who you are out there! I see through ya like cellophane!

I was raped....so IMHO ANY rape case is far from petty,minute,or trivial.....Of course you have never been through anything like a sexual assault...I was 13 at the time,it was two men(or pigs would be a more apt description)..and it was FAR from petty or trivial. ALL rapists are PIGS. Wealthy or dirt-poor does not matter...ALL rapists should be locked up..and no chance for parole. Throw away the key. Let them rot in PRISON...General Population would love to have them!!

Pound the podium and cry for justice on behalf of the victim!  It's great cover for John Walsh-types who are really into what boils down to vindictiveness.  You know who you are out there!  I see through ya like cellophane!


Well, I guess I have to forgive John Walsh.  I mean, it was only that his 6 year old son was kidnapped, raped, and murdered.  And they have never found his head, only his decapitated torso.

If you call it "vindictiveness" to want to see animals that do thing like that shot (and worse!), then I guess you live in a fantasy world where everybody dusts themselves off and is able to go on with life with no feelings, no remorse, no regret.

Myself, I can't forgive things like that.  I can forgive somebody who stole my car radio, I can forgive the person that drove dunk and ruined my knee.  I can't forgive a child rapist nor a murderer.

Myself, I wish more people were vindictive like John Walsh.  Since 1988, he has helped in the capture of 851 criminals.

Well, I guess I have to forgive John Walsh.  I mean, it was only that his 6 year old son was kidnapped, raped, and murdered.  And they have never found his head, only his decapitated torso.

If you call it "vindictiveness" to want to see animals that do thing like that shot (and worse!), then I guess you live in a fantasy world where everybody dusts themselves off and is able to go on with life with no feelings, no remorse, no regret.

Myself, I can't forgive things like that.  I can forgive somebody who stole my car radio, I can forgive the person that drove dunk and ruined my knee.  I can't forgive a child rapist nor a murderer.

Myself, I wish more people were vindictive like John Walsh.  Since 1988, he has helped in the capture of 851 criminals.
Maybe Max would feel different if it were his daughter who was raped. And let's not forget, Polanski was "Convicted" ;)

Maybe Max would feel different if it were his daughter who was raped. And let's not forget, Polanski was "Convicted" ;)


So true.  In fact, he plead guilty!

I forgot to answer a question from earlier in here.  In this case the Statute of Limitations does not apply, because he was convicted.  That only applies if he was never brought to trial.

As far as I know, there are only 2 crimes in the United States where the Statute does not apply at all, Murder and Treason.  And it only applies for people charged with a crime.  When they are convicted, they can be apprehended and jailed at any time, even if it is 50 years later.  That is why people who are "Convicted In Abesntia" continue to run, because once they are caught, they go straight to jail.

So true.  In fact, he plead guilty!

I forgot to answer a question from earlier in here.  In this case the Statute of Limitations does not apply, because he was convicted.  That only applies if he was never brought to trial.

As far as I know, there are only 2 crimes in the United States where the Statute does not apply at all, Murder and Treason.  And it only applies for people charged with a crime.  When they are convicted, they can be apprehended and jailed at any time, even if it is 50 years later.  That is why people who are "Convicted In Abesntia" continue to run, because once they are caught, they go straight to jail.
Hey man, NONE of that matters to the Hollyweird elite or the other fans of th GREAT Polanski the awesome director :D

Hey man, NONE of that matters to the Hollyweird elite or the other fans of th GREAT Polanski the awesome director :D
Well, I guess I have to forgive John Walsh.  I mean, it was only that his 6 year old son was kidnapped, raped, and murdered.  And they have never found his head, only his decapitated torso.

The two of you fail distinguish my gratitute toward Mr. Walsh for his service to society on America's Most Wanted, and my objection to the Right using Walsh as a political football.
You keep saying, "What if it happened to YOUR kid?"  Well come on!  Let's not be dumb about it.  I don't have kids.  If I had a child who was destroyed the way Adam Walsh was, I would want to send the mudderfugger who did it through a sawmill!  But that's not justice, that's revenge.  We have a justice system, not a revenge system.  Yes, I would want the perpetrator caught and put away forever.

What you see with O'Reilly, Hannity, Scarborough and other is indeed the political ploy I described above.  The right-wing psychology is all Fear and Daddy.  The right-wing goals are corporate control and religious authority.  The show the pundits put on is about arousing fear of sickos and resentment of liberalism.  They blame "liberal" judges for letting bad guys go, and blame "liberal" philosophy, which says criminals are sick but redeemable.  The allusion is that the devil inhabits the minds of criminals and the best thing to do is execute them.  If blow-hard pundits such as O'Reilly and Hannity truly cared about the well-being of children in this country, they wouldn't fight like caged rats against anything that promotes economic justice.

I can't begin to know how painful it is to have your child taken from you by a murderer and I never trivialized it.

I never said Roman Polanski did the right thing either.  You don't drug and rape a thirteen year old girl.  You don't drug and rape anybody, it's wrong.  Period.  The detriment of Sharon Tate's murder to his mental health does not mitigate the crime.  He should have paid for his crime.  He didn't, and if he doesn't return to the U.S., he never will.  He is a European director who makes weirdo movies and got away with a sex crime.  Few things could make American Conservatives crazier!
However, the woman who was raped by Polanski when she was thirteen is not suing for his extradition.  She wants to let the matter rest.  If she was out there saying Polanski did grave and permanent damage to her life and she wanted to see him in jail, I would be more inclined to support his capture.
I still enjoy his films and I'm not going to shake my fist at Roman just because you guys don't like him.

Anyway, Polanski makes movies, but he's not Hollywood elite.  He hasn't been to Hollywood for decades.  Now, Arnold Scheissenegger IS Hollywood elite, but he's OK because he's a partisan Republican action hero.  Ahhnold just may have had his way with a few unwilling participants as well, but he never got caught.  If Polanski was not a convicted criminal and wanted to run for governor of California as a Republican, you guys STILL wouldn't vote for him because he's short and funny-looking.

BTW, the statute of limitations DOES NOT apply to Polanski because he plead guilty to a felony and is a fugitive from justice.  Say, hypothetically, another woman came forward today with evidence that Polanski raped her in 1973, then the statute of limitations would apply.

He was convicted, period.

And if he comes back to the US, he WILL be captured.  If not, then there's nothing we can do about it so that point is moot.  She doesn't want our country to spend the $$ to go "get him" so why should we?

Because some people don't like freaky little "Hollywood elite" European guys to get away with something.

However, the woman who was raped by Polanski when she was thirteen is not suing for his extradition.  She wants to let the matter rest.  If she was out there saying Polanski did grave and permanent damage to her life and she wanted to see him in jail, I would be more inclined to support his capture.


Actually, she can't sue for extradition.  That is a matter that is between Nations, not individuals.  And the US has requested that Roman be extradited to the US, and France basically told them to get lost.  Their Constitution does not allow the extradition of Foreign Nationals, and that is that.  There is nothing the woman can do in order to have anything done.


Anyway, Polanski makes movies, but he's not Hollywood elite.  He hasn't been to Hollywood for decades.  Now, Arnold Scheissenegger IS Hollywood elite, but he's OK because he's a partisan Republican action hero.  Ahhnold just may have had his way with a few unwilling participants as well, but he never got caught.  If Polanski was not a convicted criminal and wanted to run for governor of California as a Republican, you guys STILL wouldn't vote for him because he's short and funny-looking.


Actually, "Hollywood Elite" is not a location, it is more of a state of mind.

My best friend works in "The Industry", and has for many years.  But he is not a member of the "Hollywood Elite", because he detests the "studio system".  He prefers to be an independent filmmaker, without all the BS of Unions, Guilds, and Studios breathing down his back.  Francis Ford Coppola and George Lucas started out as maverick independent filmmakers, but eventually even they got sucked at least partially into the system.

Arnold never tried to pretend that his films were anything other then movies to entertain people.  He never tried to attach deep meanings to them, or to claim that he understood some social issue because of a role he played.  He was a body builder turned action movie actor, and that is all he has ever really claimed to be.  The only "issue" he was an activist for was physical fittness, and nobody can deny it is a topic he is well versed in.

Because some people don't like freaky little "Hollywood elite" European guys to get away with something.
Sorry, but I hate when anybody gets away with Rape...and that's not just "Something"...and then to put this creep on some pedastal because he's a producer, big deal :P

And if he comes back to the US, he WILL be captured.  If not, then there's nothing we can do about it so that point is moot.  She doesn't want our country to spend the $$ to go "get him" so why should we?
Yeah, it's too bad we can't get somebody like a bounty hunter to just go and get him. It just angers me that he and the French government are thumbing thier collective noses at us, that's all :-\\

The two of you fail distinguish my gratitute toward Mr. Walsh for his service to society on America's Most Wanted, and my objection to the Right using Walsh as a political football.
You keep saying, "What if it happened to YOUR kid?"  Well come on!  Let's not be dumb about it.  I don't have kids.  If I had a child who was destroyed the way Adam Walsh was, I would want to send the mudderfugger who did it through a sawmill!  But that's not justice, that's revenge.  We have a justice system, not a revenge system.  Yes, I would want the perpetrator caught and put away forever.

What you see with O'Reilly, Hannity, Scarborough and other is indeed the political ploy I described above.  The right-wing psychology is all Fear and Daddy.  The right-wing goals are corporate control and religious authority.  The show the pundits put on is about arousing fear of sickos and resentment of liberalism.  They blame "liberal" judges for letting bad guys go, and blame "liberal" philosophy, which says criminals are sick but redeemable.  The allusion is that the devil inhabits the minds of criminals and the best thing to do is execute them.  If blow-hard pundits such as O'Reilly and Hannity truly cared about the well-being of children in this country, they wouldn't fight like caged rats against anything that promotes economic justice.

I can't begin to know how painful it is to have your child taken from you by a murderer and I never trivialized it.

I never said Roman Polanski did the right thing either.  You don't drug and rape a thirteen year old girl.  You don't drug and rape anybody, it's wrong.  Period.  The detriment of Sharon Tate's murder to his mental health does not mitigate the crime.  He should have paid for his crime.  He didn't, and if he doesn't return to the U.S., he never will.  He is a European director who makes weirdo movies and got away with a sex crime.  Few things could make American Conservatives crazier!
However, the woman who was raped by Polanski when she was thirteen is not suing for his extradition.  She wants to let the matter rest.  If she was out there saying Polanski did grave and permanent damage to her life and she wanted to see him in jail, I would be more inclined to support his capture.
I still enjoy his films and I'm not going to shake my fist at Roman just because you guys don't like him.

Anyway, Polanski makes movies, but he's not Hollywood elite.  He hasn't been to Hollywood for decades.  Now, Arnold Scheissenegger IS Hollywood elite, but he's OK because he's a partisan Republican action hero.  Ahhnold just may have had his way with a few unwilling participants as well, but he never got caught.  If Polanski was not a convicted criminal and wanted to run for governor of California as a Republican, you guys STILL wouldn't vote for him because he's short and funny-looking.

BTW, the statute of limitations DOES NOT apply to Polanski because he plead guilty to a felony and is a fugitive from justice.  Say, hypothetically, another woman came forward today with evidence that Polanski raped her in 1973, then the statute of limitations would apply.
I still remember what happened to me..EXACTLY as CLEAR as it was when it happened. If I talked at length and was graphic about all the horrible details...I'd not be allowed on Decades anymore. Yes it was that bad...I was in the midst of running away from another horror...my then foster home..they tried to keep me up for several nights interrogating me for something I did NOT do....I was shoved into a car and RAPED by two men(who were total PIGS)that same night...that caused my first breakdown. Do you UNDERSTAND that as long as Polanski is free...as long as ANY sick-minded rapist is....the rapes will go on. Rapists need the friggen PRISON cell door slammed shut on them...and NO d@mn parole either...

You could....but if it's not what the VICTIM wants, are YOU going to foot the bill?
If I had the money...I'd go there and bring him back myself. It's SO F'd up that people actually are defending a rapist :-\\

Actually, she can't sue for extradition.  That is a matter that is between Nations, not individuals.  And the US has requested that Roman be extradited to the US, and France basically told them to get lost.  Their Constitution does not allow the extradition of Foreign Nationals, and that is that.  There is nothing the woman can do in order to have anything done.
I was using the word "sue" in a general sense of "to petition or advocate for," not in the legal sense.  Bad choice of words on my part because "sue for extradition" is a legal process in itself.

Actually, "Hollywood Elite" is not a location, it is more of a state of mind.

I don't buy it.  It's like the way the right-wing pundits try to parse "elitism" from "wealth."  That way Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh can include themselves in the ranks of "regular folks," while calling some English teacher making 40K a year an "elitist."  It's part of the ruse to get working class people to vote for conservative Republicans, thus AGAINST their economic interests, and it works!
Being "Hollywood elite" just means being a liberal who is famous in showbiz.  Bruce Willis is not referred to as "Hollywood elite" because he's a Republican, while Tim Robbins is because he's a liberal.
Incidentally, the only people who seem to care what these "Hollywood elite" liberals think are paranoid conservatives.  I live in one of THE most liberal areas of the country and I have yet to meet any liberal who gives a rat's azz what Barbara Streisand, Susan Sarandon, Alec Baldwin, or Oliver Stone thinks!  I mean, do you really think "liberals" take their cues from Sean Penn?  WTF?

I'd LOVE to see every d@mn rapist LOCKED UP.....LIFE SENTENCE WITH NO PAROLE OR TIME OFF 'FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR' WHATSOEVER...no loopholes,NO FRIGGIN EXCEPTIONS,even for old age OR illness...Take the punishment for what they did for the rest of their life.....and beyond. Ol' Scratch welcomes them with open arms in HADES....

I'd LOVE to see every d@mn rapist LOCKED UP.....LIFE SENTENCE WITH NO PAROLE OR TIME OFF 'FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR' WHATSOEVER...no loopholes,NO FRIGGIN EXCEPTIONS,even for old age OR illness...Take the punishment for what they did for the rest of their life.....and beyond. Ol' Scratch welcomes them with open arms in HADES....
Justice,in a timely manner,fair BUT THOROUGH,jailed for life with no way out unless it's in a coffin.

I'm not defending him, I'm basing my feelings on this on what the VICTIM wants.  It's useless to talk about "capturing" him because it's not going to happen.....in part because the VICTIM wants to leave it in the past and not have it brought up again and again and again.  She has gone on with her life and gotten past what happened to her.  Every time it's brought up, she is forced to relive it.  How would you feel if you wanted to forgive Blaine's killer but other people kept bringing it up again and again and again?
I've had thoughts about the forgiveness issue and believe me, sometimes it rips me in two. But the thing that makes my life a little more bearable is the fact that the guy is locked up and serving his time.

I've had thoughts about the forgiveness issue and believe me, sometimes it rips me in two. But the thing that makes my life a little more bearable is the fact that the guy is locked up and serving his time.
I absolutely CANNOT forgive and WILL NOT forgive the two losers that raped me. They do NOT deserve forgiveness...

You missed the point. Think of how you feel when someone mentions Subway....everything is brought up again. That's how she feels whenever people start talking about Polaski. I would venture to say that it's even WORSE for her because she's forgiven him, something you'll never do.
as I said I have absolutely NO forgiveness for my rapists...They..and what they did to me...still torments me via nightmares to this day....And I always look behind me if I even FEEL like I'm being followed...

You missed the point.  Think of how you feel when someone mentions Subway....everything is brought up again.  That's how she feels whenever people start talking about Polaski.  I would venture to say that it's even WORSE for her because she's forgiven him, something you'll never do.
I understand your point and agree to some degree. My point is that he broke the law and needs to pay. If the guy that killed my son had escaped to another country and was living rich, you can bet I would want him apprehended so that chapter could be closed.

Roman Polanski is a PIG,plain and simple...

Rosemary's Baby absolutely s**ked!!

Polanski should be apprehended..brought back here to face justice..and rot in PRISON...in General Population....some con will do what the justice system did not!

She's already "closed the chapter" but people keep bringing it up and reopening it.  Christ!  Can't you just let her live her life in peace???
WHY should a convicted rapist be free, just because she forgives him? Okay, so let's let her start a worldwide organization that allows criminals to walk as long as thier victims forgive them?? I'm sorry but he broke the LAW and was convicted, he should be punished, period!

And if he's brought back here, she's going to be FORCED to go through it again.  Real nice.
He was already convicted. They would sentence him and stick his @ss in prison where he belongs. The Trial is over.

And, you honestly think it wouldn't go BACK to trial?  That it wouldn't be appealed?  That there wouldn't be additional charges and the original case be brought back up within that trial?  You must be delusional ::)
I'm sorry that it's delusional to think that if a guy breaks the law and runs away he should get away with it :-\\ If the guy that killed Blaine had run away I'd want him brought to justice. I feel bad for her but just because a victim forgives a criminal doesn't mean the law shouldn't be upheld.

What about having to spend thirty years in France... doesn't that count as punishment?

Get over yourself.  The delusional part is if you believe there's not going to be another trial if he comes back....that he's just going to go quietly to jail and things will all be hunky dory.  If nothing else, he will be tried for bail jumping and a host of other charges related to him fleeing.  Not to mention the appeals he has available.  At each and every one of these, she is going to be raped again and again.  Believe it or not, there ARE some people who can get over crap like this and move on with their life.  Her wishes should most certainly be considered.
I'm sorry but I'm just saying, a law was broken, he was convicted and he should pay. BTW, my ex was raped/molested and she won't rest until they are punished somehow. It hurts her to go through the proccess she can hopefully discourage this happening to someone else.

If your ex DIDN'T want anything done to whoever did that to her, would you still be dead set that something be done?  Would you still make her relive it again and again?  They take the victims feelings into consideration all the time when it comes to sentencing.  Why not in this case?  Because he happens to be rich and famous?  Or because he's part of "Hollyweird"?
I asked her about that and as painful as the nightmares are for her, she doesn't want these jerks to rape anyone else.

You just don't get it and never will.
That she or I don't want criminals free to rape someone else? What is so bad about that??

My gut feeling is saying bring him back and throw him in prison. However, I don't know the whole story, so it's hard to tell whether he should be trialed or not. I'll just stay out of this argument.  ::)

How would you feel if someone kept bringing up Blaine's murder and Subway, no matter how many times you asked them to not bring it up?  It's a stretch, but let's say you managed to get on with your life instead of dwelling on it every day and getting seriously bent out of shape whenever Subway was brought up.  How would you feel if people kept bringing it up anyway, KNOWING that it bothered you?  If people refused to let you get on with your life and kept making you relive that night?  I'm sure you wouldn't be happy about it.....well, THAT'S what this kind of crap is doing to her.  All you are focused on is HIS life and what HE'S doing, what about HER life and what SHE wants done?  Oh, that's right, to hell with her wishes, she doesn't matter.
Ah, but in both cases the criminal was caught! If they go get this punk and bring him back, she goes through at worst, what me and my family went through, the trial and all that being dragged up again. But, now the trials are over and the creeps are all in prison where they belong. It was worth the pain to be able to know that these morons can't hurt anyone else! Again, I sympathize with her as me and my family dealt with a horrid thing, but if she can find the stregnth to get through the final process and see him jailed she can at least know that he won't be out there able to maybe rape someone else. Bottom lin is he he broke the law by raping her, and he should go to prison...then she can get on with her life AND another criminal is out of circulation.

Have there been any more allegations of predatory behavior on Polanki's part after that one incident? Since if not, then he is certainly not a menace to society and the only reason to pursue this is the idea that people who committed a crime and got caught need to be dealt with by the legal system.

the only reason to pursue this is the idea that people who committed a crime and got caught need to be dealt with by the legal system.
Absolutely! He committed a crime!! IF OJ had gotten away with double murder...oh wait! Okay, if anyone breaks the law, is convicted but before being sentenced, flees the country and becomes a model citizen, we should just forget about the crime and let him get away with breaking the law....all because the victim says we should? Yeah that makes so much sense. Let's put in a new law that if a victim forgives then the law can be ignored ::)

People who capture fugitives must have more important things to do - more vile villains to find - does the name Osama Bin Laden ring a bell? 

Absolutely! He committed a crime!! IF OJ had gotten away with double murder...oh wait! Okay, if anyone breaks the law, is convicted but before being sentenced, flees the country and becomes a model citizen, we should just forget about the crime and let him get away with breaking the law....all because the victim says we should? Yeah that makes so much sense. Let's put in a new law that if a victim forgives then the law can be ignored ::)

We haven't forgotten about Polanski's crime.  We wouldn't be discussing it if it wasn't still in the public eye.  Is unforgivable as child rape is, it is still many degrees less severe than a double murder.  If Polanski had murdered two people, I would say he's worth pursuing internationally.
My opinion of Polanski would be altogether different if he was out there in Europe committing more crimes.  Who knows?  Maybe he has drugged and raped dozens of teenage girls and is just more stealthy about it.  However, I haven't heard any such allegations.  If the rape was a sole act of predation by a temporarily deranged man, then I'm more forgiving.
If you just can't stand the idea of a convicted rapist eluding justice, then write your Congressman.  As you say, it will take negotiations with France to get Polanski extradited to the U.S.  You might have a better chance of seeing this happen if the Bush Administration hadn't been so bloody nasty to the French!  I suppose you could bypass the legal process and hire mercenaries to go get Polanski, but then Polanski would argue he was kidnapped and illegally transported to America.  Forget the court system.  Send Rambo, and have him dump Polanski in your garage.  Then you can do with him what you please!

So let's open the door for everyone who commits a crime....as long as your victim forgives you, you don't have to be punished!

Yes.  It happens all the time.  ESPECIALLY in rape cases.  If the victim doesn't want punishment, there's not a whole heck of a lot the police can do.
But he was already convicted and was about to be sentenced.

Again, he was NOT convicted, there wasn't even a trial.  He pled guilty to 1 charge and the others were dismissed as part of the plea bargain.  If the plea had been accepted, he would have spent ZERO additional days in jail. 
Judge Can't Wait for Polanski, Retires

Originally published in the Los Angeles Times, July 1, 1989

The Los Angeles judge who once vowed to remain on the bench until Roman Polanski returned for sentencing retired Friday, saying, "I can't wait that long," and turned in his gavel. Reports that the judge was going to put him away for years inspired his flight.

Rittenband issued an arrest warrant for Polanski in 1978 when the director fled to France rather than appear for sentencing after he had been convicted of having unlawful intercourse with a 13-year-old girl.

Reports that the judge was going to put him away for years inspired his flight.

Despite a flurry of new rumours, Roman Polanski says he has no plans to try to return to the United States, which he fled 22 years ago after being convicted of "unlawful sexual intercourse" with a 13-year-old girl he was photographing.

Peace, I'm Out :-\\

Roman Polanski's 25-year-old crimes should not damage his chances for an Oscar, his victim says
Los Angeles Times
February 23, 2003
Author: Samantha Geimer
Editorial Pages Desk
Edition: Home Edition
Section: Opinion
Page: M-5

...We pressed charges, and he pleaded guilty. A plea bargain was agreed to by his lawyer, my lawyer and the district attorney, and it was approved by the judge. But to our amazement, at the last minute the judge went back on his word and refused to honor the deal.

...And should he come back? I have to imagine he would rather not be a fugitive and be able to travel freely. Personally, I would like to see that happen. He never should have been put in the position that led him to flee. He should have received a sentence of time served 25 years ago, just as we all agreed. At that time, my lawyer, Lawrence Silver, wrote to the judge that the plea agreement should be accepted and that that guilty plea would be sufficient contrition to satisfy us. I have not changed my mind.

I know there is a price to pay for running. But who wouldn't think about running when facing a 50-year sentence from a judge who was clearly more interested in his own reputation than a fair judgment or even the well-being of the victim?



words straight out of the victim's mouth  THAT'S what I base my opinion on.
Hey, plea bargains aren't always a garauntee. That's why he ran...after he was convicted. I'm gonna close this by just saying that I have tried and I do understand your point of view...I just don't agree with you  but that doesn't make me or you bad people. I'm sorry we reached an impasse :-\\