Elvis sold most of his records in the years after his death I presume.

Michael's body isn't even cold yet, let's give the man a chance. I don't know about other places in the country, but I know that as soon as anything with Michael's face on it appears, it Moonwalks out of the store. I know.  ;D

I saw TWENTY Thrller25 albums walk out a store right before my eyes. No BS, hand to God.

(Luckily I already had my own copy, but it still kind of boggles my mind.)

POP LP...big deal! STILL trails Elvis and The Beatles in #1 hits.

People are found innocent of crimes often...that doesn't mean they aren't guilty ;)

Leaders of screwball nation.....Many :D

Some  who are greedy and think money and power are what matters in life....Idiots!


Just inserting my two cents, is it your right to decide a man's guilt, what do you base it on. . .I used to think he was guilty but then I read up on the history of both accuser's families, and the situations. . .

Big things to consider

The first one (93) where he paid off BECAUSE HIS LAWYER said he should, charges were not brought because NO evidence was found. . .AND

The child in that case described Jackson's penis incorrectly as circumsized and had other inconsistencies with his body, the main thing that the child got right was white spots, but Jackson suffered from Vitilogo, anyone who knows much about Vitilogo (the boy's father for example based on his career) could guess that.

Additionally the child only said this when under a truth serum, a drug that makes people, especially children, particularly open to suggestion--see "Meet the Fockers" for an pretty accurate example of how one can be tricked into believing something happened while under said drug.  The parent was negotiating with MJ to keep the child from ever reporting it, when MJ refused a report was made.  Even in 93, if there was evidence that you molested a child, you couldn't simply get out of it by paying off the victim.  . .things didn't add up--police didn't pursue.  There was a history on the father's part of lawsuits for high dollar amounts. . .

The second accusation, the one he was found NOT GUILTY of, could not keep his story straight.  It changed several times, from the time he told police, to the deposition, to the court. . and his brother's story was also different from his own.  The mother had a history of sexual lawsuits including one against a popular retailer in which she accused a security clerk of touching her inappropriately, and another where she accused someone of molesting one of her children. . .again it's not as clear, cut and dry as people like to think.

MJ was never convicted, in America we have a thing called the constitution MEANT to protect us.  If we as a society convict people in our minds without affording them these rights, and then subsequently hold things against people after court regardless of the outcome (but especially in cases like this) we don't deserve said rights.  Ben Franklin himself said those that relinquish freedom for safety deserve neither. . .it pains me to say this, but we don't. . .in this country you are guilty the minute you are accused. 

Every person who came forward to testify can be easily put aside as a disgruntled former employee, La Toya Jackson who said MJ was a pedophile retracted her story soon after the pay off and said it was a scheme with her husband at the time to extort money from tabloids, there is no CREDIBLE witness, including the many other children who would have had to have seen these things happen and other employees who also likely would have seen these things happen that collaborated the stories.  Some children's parents were outright angry that it was assumed their children were molested, and McCully Culkin was very upset and lividly active in proclaiming he had never been molested after one of the aforementioned disgruntled employees told one of the rags that he was . . .

I'm sorry, but the evidence doesn't support him being a Child Molester.

I love MJ's music, I love Elvis' music, they both had issues, I don't care--they are dead, for God's sake, show them some respect and let them rest in peace.  They had issues, we all do, why is it everyone's personal agenda to spout hate and judgment upon everyone else.  Why does everyone feel so entitled by belittling other people. . .I personally will continue to have both Elvis and MJ, (and Nirvana,  and many other great, but troubled dead artists) on my computer. . .if you don't like his music fine, but justifying discrediting either of them by unproven statements or accusations is foolish, they did great things for the music industry--Elvis defined rock and roll, and still to this day influences our best artists, MJ made music videos what they are today--basically single handedly brought in dance choreography to them and opened the door for minority musicians. . .Both men have my respect, and should be respected by everyone--even those who may not care for their music. . .

Hey Dave.

I seriously applaud you my friend. Thank you for pointing out the facts.  :)

Michael was a very caring person. He practiced great altruism!  8)

Elvis sold most of his records in the years after his death I presume.

Michael's body isn't even cold yet, let's give the man a chance. I don't know about other places in the country, but I know that as soon as anything with Michael's face on it appears, it Moonwalks out of the store. I know.  ;D

I saw TWENTY Thrller25 albums walk out a store right before my eyes. No BS, hand to God.

(Luckily I already had my own copy, but it still kind of boggles my mind.)
I think Elvis sold more in 1956-1958,with populatuion adjustments.

MJ Elvis and Beatles will all be regarded as the greatest, they're in their own league outright.

Bing Crosby and Abba are the next best two selling artists after, and neither actually come close.

It's strange to think Madonna and Maria Carey have only sold 200 million ish, when you put into contest the billion mark records that MJ and Elvis got, it's astonishing.

Hi Marian.

How would have described him perhaps? Malnourished? Emaciated? Gaunt?

I'd like to know.  :)
are you calling me fat? ??? ;) :D

are you calling me fat? ??? ;) :D


No dear, I wasn't calling you fat. I was merely asking how you would have prefered me to describe Michael Jackson's physique. Since "slim, trim, and cute" seemed to be inaccurate. (Well I didn't deem inaccurate, you did, but you are entitled to your opinion about Michael)  :)

The reason, bottomline, when you get right down to it, it’s because one is white and one is black. And for some people that is very, very threatening - for one man (one black man) to have that much power, fame, notoriety, money, popularity, (did say money?). MJ had white women (and white men, too) all over the world screaming his name and falling out at his concerts. And guess what, no matter what anyone says or thinks, you can never, ever erase that or take back. And as Michael might say (but ever too polite to ever say so - but I’m not). All of you haters can “Eat it, Eat it” (sung to the tune of “Beat it”) So all of you can kiss his white (black) a$$.

The reason, bottomline, when you get right down to it, it’s because one is white and one is black. And for some people that is very, very threatening - for one man (one black man) to have that much power, fame, notoriety, money, popularity, (did say money?). MJ had white women (and white men, too) all over the world screaming his name and falling out at his concerts. And guess what, no matter what anyone says or thinks, you can never, ever erase that or take back. And as Michael might say (but ever too polite to ever say so - but I’m not). All of you haters can “Eat it, Eat it” (sung to the tune of “Beat it”) So all of you can kiss his white (black) a$$.


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Great Googly Moogly! *hugging Meh* I've never encountered a fan (may i call you a fan?) more outspoken than me.  ;D You shine my friend! You shine!  :)

No dear, I wasn't calling you fat. I was merely asking how you would have prefered me to describe Michael Jackson's physique. Since "slim, trim, and cute" seemed to be inaccurate. (Well I didn't deem inaccurate, you did, but you are entitled to your opinion about Michael)  :)
I would say he was naturally inclined to be thin,but thinner than he should have been.

Elvis was just a druggie who liked to watch women wrestle in their underwear. ;D


Well Jon Bon Jovi is a huge Elvis fan. 

Well about time for me to chime in on this topic.

Anyone who thinks that Elvis is still the "King" is misinformed.

Michael Jackson is, was, and will always be the king of entertainment. Let's look at the numbers, Michael has sold rings around Elvis. And Michael even married Elvis daughter and did "you know what" with her. If that don't scream "King" and "Pimp" in the same breath, I don't know what does. Let's also factor in the fact that Elvis NEVER won a Grammy during his career. And Michael has so many of them, he propbably has had to give them away. Michael has won so many awards that they started naming them after him (IE, the MTV Video Vanguard Award, etc)

Elvis also got fat as a blimp before he died. Michael was slim, trim and cute up to the end.

Not to say that Elvis wasn't a great performer, he was. Not to say that he was popular in his hey day and still has his devoted fans spanning the globe. He does. And beleive it or not, I do actually like Elvis and would like to visit Graceland one day. But I keep it in perspective--Michael is Elvis and MORE.

But I will give the "Elviites" one thing. Elvis did rock that black leather suit (in that famous 1968 comback special) a little better than Michael did in the "Billie Jean" clip. But Michael MADE red leather an art form. LOLl.

;D

And I'm not touching the child molestation charges because I'll get hot heased, heavy worded and kicked off the board.  ;) But I know my mom would have kicked my ass to New Mexico and back if I'd ask to marry someone at the age of 14.  ;D


Oh Elvis is still the king.  It's anyone who doesn't know that he's the king that is misinformed.  Firstly, your statement about Elvis's record sales being less than Jacko's..  I'd like to know how you came up with that information.  Especially considering the fact that according to the RIAA (Recording Industry Association of America) Michael Jackson has sold around 750 million Records Worldwide.  Elvis on the other hand has sold well over a billion.  As for national figures whilst Michael Jackson has sold something around sixty one and a half million, Elvis' figures are more along the lines of 119 million.  So the "Outselling Elvis" statement taking those figures into account is obviously false.

Now, your claim that Elvis never won a Grammy is also false.  Elvis in fact won three Grammys.  Michael Jackson was never voted one of America's outstanding men.  Elvis never toured or performed outside of the United States aside from a few performances in Europe when he was stationed there.  He didn't need to tour, to develop a fan base over seas.  His appeal, and the love of his fans transcended that barrier.  As for other awards, Well... if you ever go to Graceland, make sure you take a look around the Hall of Gold.  One of the most impressive displays of awards in history.  And those aren't even all of Elvis' awards. 

I personally wouldn't call Micheal cute, or even handsome.  He's had so many face lifts that it's hard to tell just how much of him was really there and how much was actually just plastic.  Michael's music? I like from the 80s on.  I am a child of the eighties.  No offense, but you should perhaps get your facts right about Elvis before you actually post false ones. 

Elvis = King of Rock

MJ = King of Pop

Elvis = King of Rock

MJ = King of Pop
That's a good way to put it.

Elvis = King of Rock

MJ = King of Pop


Is the OP still alive?

Is the OP still alive?
Who is OP?

Elvis = King of Rock

MJ = King of Pop

That's a good way to put it.
As...

Aretha Franklin = The Queen Of Soul

Madonna = Queen of Pop

can everyone STOP saying Elvis was famous world wide when he wasn't, he was only famous in Europe,while michael was knwn world wide,you can go to the smallest place on earth and say "michael" and they will say "Jackson". rest of the world only got to knw Elvis b'cos western countries kept comparing them, so dnt bother comparing them, MICHAEL JACKSON will always be on top when it comes to being world famous, rest my case.

can everyone STOP saying Elvis was famous world wide when he wasn't, he was only famous in Europe,while michael was knwn world wide,you can go to the smallest place on earth and say "michael" and they will say "Jackson". rest of the world only got to knw Elvis b'cos western countries kept comparing them, so dnt bother comparing them, MICHAEL JACKSON will always be on top when it comes to being world famous, rest my case.
Surely Elvis Presley was famous in the USA?

Surely Elvis Presley was famous in the USA?
yes he was in USA but not world famous like MJ ;)

yes he was in USA but not world famous like MJ ;)
He was certainly famous in Far East Asia and had hit records in Australia.

He was certainly famous in Far East Asia and had hit records in Australia.

ppl in east only got to knw of Elvis as i said before was b'cos of MJ and the comparing western countries were doing, so NO he still wasn't world famous like MJ :D

ppl in east only got to knw of Elvis....
His full name would be on the records sold there.

His full name would be on the records sold there.

sold where???
MJ IS THE BEST!!!
i knw u rlly love him  ;)
so stop faking!

sold where???

The world over, you name the country, Elvis Presley had hits there.

i knw u rlly love him  ;)

Personally I find Elvis Presley songs all the same.

sold where???
Look closely, the full name of Elvis Presley is on this single of (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear

http://www.blackpatti.com/TeddyBear_ElvisPresley_RCAVictor1.JPG

Look closely, the full name of Elvis Presley is on this single of (Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear

http://www.blackpatti.com/TeddyBear_ElvisPresley_RCAVictor1.JPG

look im dnt knw what u on about or what ur on, im only saying MJ is better then EP so lets just leave it at that, b'cos ur off the point i was making >:(

Elvis = King of Rock

And then I hear pap like 'Wooden Heart'...still makes me shudder!  :P

yes he was in USA but not world famous like MJ ;)


Does your mother know you escaped from your playpen ???

And then I hear pap like 'Wooden Heart'...still makes me shudder!  :P
It does show dexterity in singing in a foreign language ?

Both Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson are world famous.

It does show dexterity in singing in a foreign language ?


Heh! Well, German's not the most evocative of languages to speak, let alone sing in...so I'm not sure whether he's making a good job of it!

But that sappy, oom-pah tune! Aaaaargh!  8-P

Heh! Well, German's not the most evocative of languages to speak, let alone sing in...so I'm not sure whether he's making a good job of it!

But that sappy, oom-pah tune! Aaaaargh!  8-P
From a sappy film ?

From a sappy film ?


GI Blues, I think...might have been sappy, but I can't say for sure, as I flatly refuse to watch any of his tawdry films!  :P

GI Blues, I think...might have been sappy, but I can't say for sure, as I flatly refuse to watch any of his tawdry films!  :P
It was all fodder for the fans.

For those of you who says Elvis wasn't popular worldwide are wrong. My parents, well our whole family are Vietnamese, and Elvis was popular there when my parents were in their teens in Vietnam. My mom's brother had Elvis's hairstyle and in the mid-90's there was a Vietnamese singer name Elvis Phuong. The singer's stage name was like that on purpose: because he wanted to attract more audiences. He knew Elvis was a household name worldwide!

I can't believe this argument is still going on. . .

Musical tastes will be different for every person, MJ and EP were nothing alike--but they both deserve the honor and respect of anybody who loves any pop music, rock music, even R&B, Hip Hop and Punk . . .I mean they were both pioneers of different times. . .RIP both of them

King Elvis did it on his own with his SUPERB voice.  He did not have to travel the world to promote his music. Who inspired the likes of Beatles, Rolling Stones and WACKO etc? Yes WECKO was into music as a child but what happened then? Presley has no weired names but Jacko has. JACKO was not a normal person. He underwent an awfull lot of surgery to become a human being like us. He was born a freak and that is not his fault. NO NORMAL FATHER WOULD DANGLE HIS CHILD OVER A BALCONY for CHEAP publicity. The world gave him the appropriate TITLE: WACKO JACKO.

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