The State is trying to p[rove he did these things..the defendants just have to make the jurors believe he didn't....
When someone who was already paid off SHOWS UP to testify..what??They don't think they got enough money from him so they will now ruin his life..Doesn't sound right....
So now if the jury had any sense that this is taking place, they shouldn't have trouble deciding something is wrong with Michaels' picture..

howard: (in answer to who was polled..I believe all jurors were asked what they thought of him and his music or if they knew of it, that's why it may be swayed in his favor..we'll see where they go with it.. :-\\

Not to mention that there's not just 1, not just 2, no, there are MULTIPLE people who have said they were either molested by Jacko or witnessed the "inappropriate behavior".  1 or 2 people lying, maybe, but a dozen or more ???  HIGHLY unlikely ::)
Yes it IS!! It's a conspiracy to bring him down ::)

That conspiracy theory would have to involve..the state,the local police, many children, many former workers and the list goes on..If you think all of them could be organized to give the same info...what's that say??

They found a way to speed up the trial....they'll bring in al the kids Michael DIDN'T allegedly molest :D

How many more months till this crap finally ends and we finally know whether he's guilty or NOT? ::)

That conspiracy theory would have to involve..the state,the local police, many children, many former workers and the list goes on..If you think all of them could be organized to give the same info...what's that say??

They found a way to speed up the trial....they'll bring in al the kids Michael DIDN'T allegedly molest :D
;D Yeah, but you know I just HAVE to give the blind followers something to read in his favor ::)

I think that when it's all said and done, we can take the word "Pan" out of "Peter Pan" and replace it with the word "puffer" when it comes to describing Michael Jackson. I'm sure the moonwalk will come in handy in the showers at San Quentin, here's hoping he doesn't back up into a couple of Hell's Angels.  ;D

I think that when it's all said and done, we can take the word "Pan" out of "Peter Pan" and replace it with the word "puffer" when it comes to describing Michael Jackson. I'm sure the moonwalk will come in handy in the showers at San Quentin, here's hoping he doesn't back up into a couple of Hell's Angels.  ;D
Oh NO, AL-B! How dare you talk about this beacon of light who has had the good judgement to not have underage kids overnight since being accused before...the "Man" who had the best LP in history...who NEVER would molest any child...never held his own child dangling over a balcony....has NEVER had a surgical procedure on his face...EVER!! Oh, and lest we forget that he is SUCH a pal to Paul McCartney that he offered to sell The Beatles catalog back to him...just to be a decent person. You know, the one we ALL must get on our knees and worship as our Pop GOD :D

Oh NO, AL-B! How dare you talk about this beacon of light who has had the good judgement to not have underage kids overnight since being accused before...the "Man" who had the best LP in history...who NEVER would molest any child...never held his own child dangling over a balcony....has NEVER had a surgical procedure on his face...EVER!! Oh, and lest we forget that he is SUCH a pal to Paul McCartney that he offered to sell The Beatles catalog back to him...just to be a decent person. You know, the one we ALL must get on our knees and worship as our Pop GOD :D
Did I just commit blasphemy against St. Michael?!? ;D

Did I just commit blasphemy against St. Michael?!? ;D
He's NOT that great after the sign he displayed today....check out the Guilty or Not thread ;) ;D

Oh NO, AL-B! How dare you talk about this beacon of light who has had the good judgement to not have underage kids overnight since being accused before...the "Man" who had the best LP in history...who NEVER would molest any child...never held his own child dangling over a balcony....has NEVER had a surgical procedure on his face...EVER!! Oh, and lest we forget that he is SUCH a pal to Paul McCartney that he offered to sell The Beatles catalog back to him...just to be a decent person. You know, the one we ALL must get on our knees and worship as our Pop GOD :D

do you think he's the father of his own children?  ::)

do you think he's the father of his own children?  ::)

There comes a time when it is becomes more economical to "grow your own stash," if you know what I'm saying.  So yeah, maybe that' was the idea fer a while!
:-\\

I'll have you know that the inspiration for Nelson Medela to become the first black leader of south Africa was Michael Jackson. Mr. Mendela has stated many times that he draws his strength from Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson is a strong person. he had the balls to step into a industry controlled by white media and make it his own. He revolutionised music itself and then went on to own half of what is considered the most valuable music catalogues in the world, ATV Catalogue. Michael Jackson is by far one of the most successful and most powerful people in the music industry and has been for a number of years.
Muhamid Ali is another great person who draws his strength from the recently renowned "Emperor Of Entertainment" 8)

Geez, I know this Robbo's a Jackson obsessive, but he's now quoting satirical articles as fact! What he speaks about above was a parody of MJ & Jesse Jackson's recent conversation, where MJ tried to equate his 'struggle' with that of Nelson Mandela's. I don't recall Nelson ever struggling to cover up kid-fiddling...as for a struggle to break into a world controlled by white media, the music industry were crying out for acts such as The Jackson Five when they first came out, so I don't really know quite how he 'struggled' there either..

I don't think it's appropriate for MJ to play the race card. He has spent many years trying to be white-skinned (for whatever gain, we don't know), so to now pussy on about how he is mistreated because he's black is c**p. The opposite is true- he's treated specially, because he's a rich nutcase with a gender/race issues. Even if he is cleared, the many pathetic straws he is clutching at now will be remembered, I can see him ending up as being one of the most despised people on the planet. His only 'struggle' is to try to convince others he's not a dangerous sexual predator; his actions & speeches in the past have already convinced most of us that he is indeed a danger to children's innocence, even if the court finds otherwise.

Hey, sorry Crazymom, haven't been here for a while due to 'net usage clampdown at work, and haven't bothered to read a lot of the MJ threads in full, due to them being of a fairly similar nature (i.e. the world saying "WTF?" and a few Jacko obsessives defending him to the hilt). I just think that so many people have repeated the same allegation, and Jacko's using such desperation to make him/herself seem (pardon the pun/ expression) "whiter than white", that the "mud will stick" & his fan base of loyal children will rapidly disappear as parents no longer wish to pay for music peddled by someone who has had repeated allegations of child abuse levelled at him. They say "there's no smoke without fire"- if I saw one puff of smoke, I'd think there was something smouldering, but that it might not have developed into a real fire. If I saw loads of smoke, I'd think the fire was lit & burning well, regardless of his mealy-mouthed lawyers...

do you think he's the father of his own children?  ::)
He's among those I'd say should have never been allowed to reproduce :D

I think that when it's all said and done, we can take the word "Pan" out of "Peter Pan" and replace it with the word "puffer" when it comes to describing Michael Jackson. I'm sure the moonwalk will come in handy in the showers at San Quentin, here's hoping he doesn't back up into a couple of Hell's Angels.  ;D


Heh heh... I was thinking kind of the same thing.

Makes you think that MJ has his own version of the old "Peter Piper" poem too.

;D ;D

LB

He's already done "Little Boy Blew Blue" :o
HEY!! That was MY "Knock-Knock" joke ;) ;D

Have your fun now. Make your jokes now. Because he who laughs last, laughs best! Michael Jackson and those who have supported him (his fans, most Hollywood celebrities, a silent majority of the public) will have the last laugh. It's gonna be hell funny when Tom Sneddon crashes and burns and the case just blows up in his face. But when you people learn that Michael is innocent, you wont be allowed to crawl back to him. Sure, if you wont you can buy his new records and watch his new films, but you can't come back. Michael will never accept you people. From now on it's Michael Jackson, his fans, his friends and his family. The extended Jackson family.
You can turn over now and actually wkae up to the reality that Michael isn't the freak people say he is, or you can keep believing what tabloids say. But in the end, just remember, don't come crawling back!

Have your fun now. Make your jokes now. Because he who laughs last, laughs best! Michael Jackson and those who have supported him (his fans, most Hollywood celebrities, a silent majority of the public) will have the last laugh. It's gonna be hell funny when Tom Sneddon crashes and burns and the case just blows up in his face. But when you people learn that Michael is innocent, you wont be allowed to crawl back to him. Sure, if you wont you can buy his new records and watch his new films, but you can't come back. Michael will never accept you people. From now on it's Michael Jackson, his fans, his friends and his family. The extended Jackson family.
You can turn over now and actually wkae up to the reality that Michael isn't the freak people say he is, or you can keep believing what tabloids say. But in the end, just remember, don't come crawling back!
Whether he will be found guilty or not, my opinion of him will remain the same ;)

Whether he will be found guilty or not, my opinion of him will remain the same ;)

And that opinion is?

He's a sick, perverted greedy, mean, egotistical jerk...well, you asked!

He's a sick, perverted greedy, mean, egotistical jerk...well, you asked!

Well if he's found innocent, that means he is innocent beyond reasonable doubt, so that rules out sick and perverted. Greedy? If you're referring to his ownership of the Beatles catalogue, are you aware of the extremes Sony have gone to, to get full ownership of Michael's ATV catalogue? Mean? Are you referring to the hospital incident? The hospital took full responsibility for it. Before that old woman came in, there was another elderly person, dying in that room and she was moved to a smaller room and died. So you could argue that the old woman that died as a result of the hospital giving Michael the bigger room, was also greedy and mean for taking the big room whcih resulted in a previous old woman dying. It's only fair.

Well if he's found innocent, that means he is innocent beyond reasonable doubt, so that rules out sick and perverted. Greedy? If you're referring to his ownership of the Beatles catalogue, are you aware of the extremes Sony have gone to, to get full ownership of Michael's ATV catalogue? Mean? Are you referring to the hospital incident? The hospital took full responsibility for it. Before that old woman came in, there was another elderly person, dying in that room and she was moved to a smaller room and died. So you could argue that the old woman that died as a result of the hospital giving Michael the bigger room, was also greedy and mean for taking the big room whcih resulted in a previous old woman dying. It's only fair.
Just because he may be found not guilty, doesn't mean he is ;)

Just because he may be found not guilty, doesn't mean he is ;)


You got that right, Mark. :)

Oh, and if he is found not guilty I can't go crawling to him?  He won't accept me?  Oh well.  His opinion doesn't rule my life...I could care less what he thinks.  You make him sound like a god, Robbo.  Keep putting him on that pedastal and he will come crashing down.  It is starting already, I don't think he will make it out of this unscathed like you seem to think.  Even if he is found not guilty his career will still be affected by this.  The allegations will always be hanging over his head and people won't want to have much to do with him.  Face it, MJ is on a downhill slide and it won't stop until he hits rock bottom.

You got that right, Mark. :)

Oh, and if he is found not guilty I can't go crawling to him?  He won't accept me?  Oh well.  His opinion doesn't rule my life...I could care less what he thinks.  You make him sound like a god, Robbo.  Keep putting him on that pedastal and he will come crashing down.  It is starting already, I don't think he will make it out of this unscathed like you seem to think.  Even if he is found not guilty his career will still be affected by this.  The allegations will always be hanging over his head and people won't want to have much to do with him.  Face it, MJ is on a downhill slide and it won't stop until he hits rock bottom.
Thanks Dagny, whether some see him as good or bad...MY opinion is that he was never on top or that great to begin with ;)

Before that old woman came in, there was another elderly person, dying in that room and she was moved to a smaller room and died. So you could argue that the old woman that died as a result of the hospital giving Michael the bigger room, was also greedy and mean for taking the big room whcih resulted in a previous old woman dying. It's only fair.



Have you no respect for others what so ever. that is heartless. I don't know why youlove MJ so much.
Starts to make a person wonder, you seem to know his every move, supposedly know for a fact where he was at any given time that he was supposed to be molesting those boys, starting to think along the lines of a man-servant.b] :o
oops I mean "lost boy"