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Subject: Will the Britney era ever end??
It's now already 2004 and still there is a late 90's feel around which bugs the hell out of me because I really didn't like the late 90's (especially 1999!) and was hoping as this decade moved forward all that stuff from the late 90's like Britney Spears, Eminem, boy bands, etc. would fade out just like a lot of the stuff from the late 80's faded out as the 90's progressed. By 1994, everything from the late 80's was old news and by then the 90's look had totally taken over and any leftover late 80's fashions that may have been around in 1990-92 were gone. The only thing from the late 90's that seems to have at least slowed down are the boy bands with the exception of Justin Timberlake. You still cannot turn on the TV or look at a magazine without being bombarded by Britney Spears and Christina Aguilara.
I'm just wondering when or if the "Britney era", which began in 1999 and is still going on now, will ever end or are we faced with an eternity of being stuck in the late 90's teen pop/rap metal era? :(
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I certainly hope that Britney's reign does not end soon. I look forward to her talent for decades to come. :D 8)
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the britney era has been gone, it died with the teenybopper thing back in 2001. But She is still popular, just like Madonna has been able to keep people talking well after the 80s ended. IMO the "late 90s" has been pretty much over since 01.
Also the rap/rock thing is over, yea Linkin Park is here but theyre not like Limp Bizkit, and besides theyre like the only ones still doing it with any success. Nu-metal rules rock radio now, in the late 90s "Alternative" was still hanging on.
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I agree that the Britney era is over.
IMO, she's now "tabloid fodder" like the Hilton sisters. :P
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This is going to be hard to face, but maybe it's not that the 90's are still going on, it's that the 2000's started early.
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the britney era has been gone, it died with the teenybopper thing back in 2001. But She is still popular, just like Madonna has been able to keep people talking well after the 80s ended. End Quote
I remember some radio DJs got together and put out a record called "No More Madonna."
Quoting:"No more Madonna, go away Madonna, Everywhere I go now there's a book or TV show about Madonna....
Went to the movies recently, didn't really care what I would see, when there on the screen in front of me was somebody seeking Susan desperately....NO MORE MADONNA!End Quote
And so on and so on. I remember they called themselves "The Slightly Twisted Disappointer Sisters." They were these big ugly radio guys dressed like Madonna Wannabes.
That was 1985. People still thought Madonna was just a fad, and she'd disappear in a few months. Nope.
I didn't think Britney would still be making the headlines in 2004. But, I mean, at least Britney can DO something. What can Paris Hilton do, other than.... :-X
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I think it ended once people realised she can't sing, she can't dance...etc. All she has to offer is her...well, never mind. :P
I still stand by my prediction that in a few years from now she will be just like Madonna is now...an old, trampy washed up has-been making crappy records and movies that bomb at the box office (oh wait Britney already did that) to desperately stay in the spotlight.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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the britney era has been gone, it died with the teenybopper thing back in 2001. But She is still popular, just like Madonna has been able to keep people talking well after the 80s ended. IMO the "late 90s" has been pretty much over since 01.
Also the rap/rock thing is over, yea Linkin Park is here but theyre not like Limp Bizkit, and besides theyre like the only ones still doing it with any success. Nu-metal rules rock radio now, in the late 90s "Alternative" was still hanging on.
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The Britney era may be gone with teenagers, (and I suspect that's what all you younger guys that say her time is gone really mean) but her era is certainly not gone with the media. Britney Spears at age 22, still has a LONG way to go before she becomes a 40 something has been like Madonna. Madonna started to get big back in 1983 when she was 25 years old.
And I have to disagree, but the original poster is right,---the late 90's are still here. The fashions, the style of the music, it's all a very late 90's, 1999 style. Yeah, yeah, yeah the politics of the world are different, but the pop culture is very similar to the late 90's. If a lot of people in the early 2000's and now in 2004 think the late 90's are still here and worn out it's welcome, then you know people in 2013 will think that our present time is still very late 90ish.
You're not going to convince any teenager in 2013 or 2014 that was born in 1995 that the last few years were anything but a rerun of the 90's. All the little details that you remember that seperate 1999 from 2000-'04 will be lost on them.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
I agree that the last few years have hardly been different from 1999 in terms of pop culture. There are some differences if you look hard enough but they are not all that noticable. The fashions and music are very much the same as the late 90's. The only type of music that's popular now that is more 00's than 90's is probably the garage band trend that came around in 2001/02 with bands like the Strokes and the White Stripes. Besides that, there is nothing out so far that could be looked back on at this point as "the 00's", everything else is a rerun of the trends and styles of music from the late 90's.
So with the way popular culture is now, do you expect the entire decade of the 2000s to be just a rerun of the 90's? Or do you expect things to have changed at least somewhat by 2008 and 2009? If most of this decade does turn out to be a rerun of the late 90's, do you think the pop culture will change for good in the 2010s with everything from the late 90's and 00's considered outdated and done with. In 2010 the 00's will be uncool just like the 80's were uncool in 1990. Do you think there is a chance in the early 2010s of a backlash against much of the commercial poppy music of this period and we will see the beginning of a darker era in music kinda like the grunge/gangsta rap era of the early-mid 90's? If it does go that way, I'll be glad. In fact, anything different and at least somewhat better than this current era of music would be okay for me. I guess only time will tell.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the music that is coming out today.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
Remember when The Michael Jackson era began 20 some odd years ago? ;D
Howard
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Remember when The Michael Jackson era began 20 some odd years ago? ;D
Howard
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Actually the Michael Jackson era began way back in 1970 or so. When the Jackson Five did songs like "One Bad Apple", "I'll Be There", "Got to be There", and so on, absolutely EVERBODY knew that Michael was the entire franchise. The other 4 brothers were simply window dressing.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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Actually the Michael Jackson era began way back in 1970 or so. When the Jackson Five did songs like "One Bad Apple", "I'll Be There", "Got to be There", and so on, absolutely EVERBODY knew that Michael was the entire franchise. The other 4 brothers were simply window dressing.
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So,it actually started 30 years ago? ??? :D
Howard
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
I just have one solution to this problem, it's a little move I like to call "Changing the Channel" ;D
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So,it actually started 30 years ago? ??? :D
Howard
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AT LEAST 34 years ago, I remember Michael being a big thing. I think the Jackson Five hit the big time in 1968, but I might be off a year or two. I do know that in 1970 they were big cause I was in 8th grade.
Man, even back then Michael was one cool 8) little kid. Its too bad that somewhere along the line he got so F-ed up.
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I just have one solution to this problem, it's a little move I like to call "Changing the Channel" ;D
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I'd like to see someone create The Britney Channel
-All Britney
-All the time
-No interruptions
That would be so cool. 8)
;D
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I'd like to see someone create The Britney Channel
-All Britney
-All the time
-No interruptions
That would be so cool. 8)
;D
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Or The Michael Jackson Channel?
25 years of The Jacksons and Michael throughout the years. ;D
Howard
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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I'm just wondering when or if the "Britney era", 1999 and is will ever end :(
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I hope so her and Jessica Simpson have got to go. :-X
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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It's now already 2004 and still there is a late 90's feel around which bugs the hell out of me because I really didn't like the late 90's (especially 1999!) and was hoping as this decade moved forward all that stuff from the late 90's like Britney Spears, Eminem, boy bands, etc. would fade out just like a lot of the stuff from the late 80's faded out as the 90's progressed. By 1994, everything from the late 80's was old news and by then the 90's look had totally taken over and any leftover late 80's fashions that may have been around in 1990-92 were gone.
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I agree why hasn't the late 90's ended? The stuff from the 80's was like gone by like 1993. I don't know why its like that with this decade. I read yesterday in the USA Today Britney Spears is filling up to 85% capacity of Arena's for her current tour. Her marketing team is pretty good. Britney could be like the Rolling Stones: not get like great radio airplay but manage to fill arena's for her career to stay alive. Lastly, the USA today article said Britney may have already passed the teen-pop trend.
One of the things Like about the music industry that is different from a couple of years ago is record exec's can't say about CD not selling because of people stealing music off the internet. The market will now determine in a fair way what artists deserve to stay around and which artists go away.
From what I see music is headed to a different direction. 1989 was different from what was selling in 1994. What was selling in 1994 is different that what was selling in 1999.
One last question were artists like Norah Jones, Evanescence, and Alicia Keys around in 1999? No. So the music is a little different than it was 5 years ago though the bling-bling rap element that reminds me that the late 90's is still here. The only artists from 90's that are having longevity from the mid 90's are Chris Cornell(RATM/Soundgarden), Usher, and R. Kelly. Maybe R&B singer Faith Evans is having a little longevity just not on Top 40 radio. Thats about it. Stone Temple Pilots, Collective Soul, and Pearl Jam faded from the mainstream after 1996.
About the late 90's(mainly 1999)I really don't group 97-98 in regards to the music scene with the exception of the Spice Girls, Aqua and Hanson. Groups like Foo Fighters and Everclear had good success in 1997. Green Day put a record("Nimrod") out in 1997. R&B and Rap ruled the charts in 97-98. It wasn't until really Britney Spears came out(December 1998)that the teen-pop music made a prescence on the music scene. To me the teen-pop thing started full throttle in probably March of 1999 when Britney Spears's controversal Rolling Stone Cover hit magazine stands and caused a stir. Then Christina Aguilera came out and the teen-pop trend accelerated into a multi-million dollar empire for record labels. TRL on MTV really promoted the teen-pop trend. I think by November of 2000 people got tired of the teen-pop trend. Yes, people did get tired of the teen-pop trend. In the next few months rock groups like Staind, Weezer, and Tool debut at near or at the top of the Billboard Charts with their albums. So in conclusion the teen-pop trend lasted a year and a half.
The main problem with today's music scene is the bling bling rap which isn't actual rap music to begin with. Its pop. Also it doesn't help when rock groups like All-American Rejects and Nickleback aims at an audience it shouldn't at: again a "pop" audience. It seems like to me every musical act out there is making their songs "Tailor made" for Top 40 radio which you can't do. That gets boring after awhile.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
As if there haven't been a thousand other signs that "Rolling Stone" has sold its soul to Satan, I just saw the RS Britney special issue on the newssstand. Ain't no use in shaking your fist at Jan Wenner, gotta just let it go!
::)
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
The style of the present pop culture is still late 90's, circa 1999. Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, and Evanescene may not have been around in 1999, but they look like they came from the 1990's. Their style is all late 90's. It was not this way in 1993 or 1994. The late 80's were dying out by the fall of 1989, and that late 80's style was not still popular then. Neither was the late 70's style still popular in 1983 or 1984.
I think people just can't think of anything new or different, so we just keep holding onto this late 90's stuff. And in all seriousness, I think fashions haven't changed much since as far back as 1996. That's 8 years of relatively the same fashions. Sure no one wears flannel anymore, but you know what I mean.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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The style of the present pop culture is still late 90's, circa 1999. Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, and Evanescene may not have been around in 1999, but they look like they came from the 1990's. Their style is all late 90's. It was not this way in 1993 or 1994. The late 80's were dying out by the fall of 1989, and that late 80's style was not still popular then. Neither was the late 70's style still popular in 1983 or 1984.
I think people just can't think of anything new or different, so we just keep holding onto this late 90's stuff. And in all seriousness, I think fashions haven't changed much since as far back as 1996. That's 8 years of relatively the same fashions. Sure no one wears flannel anymore, but you know what I mean.
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I agree. I think pop music and styles have been in a state of arrested inanity for the past eight or nine years. For me, the '80s ended after I broke up with first serious girlfriend in the fall of '88. Even though I was the one who did the breaking up, the ordeal was traumatic for me. I was disenchanted with all the values I built up in adolescence and I just withdrew from everything. 1989 seems neither like '80s, nor '90s. It's time suspended.
The music and styles I liked in the '80s went quickly out of fashion, replaced by music and styles I didn't like at all. I developed my own esoteric tastes in music, film, and literature, and an iconoclastic political outlook to call my own.
I didn't fit in with the "normal" people in my youth, but I made the mistake of trying to "fit in" with others who did not "fit in." Most of them I found were outcasts not because of deeply held contrarian values, but because they were narcissistic, obnoxious, spoiled, anti-social, and rude.
Today, I don't follow any scene. I'm generally solitudinous, but not anti-social. I try to remain free of the social tyranny of trendy values and politics.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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The style of the present pop culture is still late 90's, circa 1999. Norah Jones, Alicia Keys, and Evanescene may not have been around in 1999, but they look like they came from the 1990's. Their style is all late 90's. It was not this way in 1993 or 1994. The late 80's were dying out by the fall of 1989, and that late 80's style was not still popular then. Neither was the late 70's style still popular in 1983 or 1984.
I think people just can't think of anything new or different, so we just keep holding onto this late 90's stuff. And in all seriousness, I think fashions haven't changed much since as far back as 1996. That's 8 years of relatively the same fashions. Sure no one wears flannel anymore, but you know what I mean.
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Ok I'll respond to your first paragraph. Ok Alicia Keys was probably influenced by the whole neo-soul singer trend of the late 90's mainly Lauryn Hill. Maybe I'll give you that. Evanesence and Norah Jones late 90's? You have to explain that one more clearly. Evanesence and Norah Jones are not bling bling rap, teen-pop, or even R&B that dominated the late 90's(Dru Hill, Total etc.) If Evansecence and Norah Jones came out in 1999 nobody would have bought their stuff(Thats my opinion.) It was Britney Spears, and N'Sync 24/7 back then. The late 70's period I'll agree completed died by 1983 or 84. Thats when "New Wave" music became popular(I.e. Culture Club, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, and New Order became popular.)
The second paragraph I am more "in sync" with(no pun intened of course if you know what I mean.) Fashions haven't really changed that much since 1996. I'll agree with that.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
What I don't understand is that I remember the 80s going out of style so fast, yet the 90s/00s just creep along seemingly forever with no end in sight. I have always felt that the 00s are basically "The 90s Part II".
No one was wearing 1988 or 1989 fashions by 1992. Even if you wore something from 1985 in 1989, you stood out as very dated.
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What I don't understand is that I remember the 80s going out of style so fast, yet the 90s/00s just creep along seemingly forever with no end in sight. I have always felt that the 00s are basically "The 90s Part II".
No one was wearing 1988 or 1989 fashions by 1992. Even if you wore something from 1985 in 1989, you stood out as very dated.
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It seems like '70s and '80s fashions were born to be ephemeral. How long could people wear those huge lapels from the '70s, or those ragged sweatshirts ala Flashdance. Perhaps fashions from the '90s are more adapaptable. I don't really notice "trends" anymore. I'm sure they exist, but they don't jump out at me the way the used to.
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^Yeah good point. I guess the 90s lacking a distinct or original style of it's own (other then being very 70s retro) actually works to the decades advantage in terms of longevity. Because the 90s never had much of distinct style, the fashions and basic music style can hang around much longer then what we saw with the other decades, where the fads would get really popular and then quickly burn out and become old in a year or two. You really have to pay close attention to fashion and music pop culture to notice the differences between now in 2004 and the 90s. Like you say, the differences don't jump out at you like 1994 did with the 80s.
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Funny how popular music stagnated in the mid-to-late 1990's, which was right after the government deregulated the communications industry and did away with the limits on how many radio stations a single corporation could own in each city, thus paving the way for Clear Channel's monopoly on the airwaves. Coincidence?
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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It's now already 2004 and still there is a late 90's feel around which bugs the hell out of me because I really didn't like the late 90's (especially 1999!) and was hoping as this decade moved forward all that stuff from the late 90's like Britney Spears, Eminem, boy bands, etc. would fade out just like a lot of the stuff from the late 80's faded out as the 90's progressed. By 1994, everything from the late 80's was old news and by then the 90's look had totally taken over and any leftover late 80's fashions that may have been around in 1990-92 were gone. The only thing from the late 90's that seems to have at least slowed down are the boy bands with the exception of Justin Timberlake. You still cannot turn on the TV or look at a magazine without being bombarded by Britney Spears and Christina Aguilara.
I'm just wondering when or if the "Britney era", which began in 1999 and is still going on now, will ever end or are we faced with an eternity of being stuck in the late 90's teen pop/rap metal era? :(
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It does kinda seem like 1999 all over again. The movies are kind of the same so far this year. Most of television has been invaded by all these horrid reality shows. Now Donald Trump has a show. ::)
The UConn men's team even won the national championship again just as they did in '99.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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It does kinda seem like 1999 all over again. The movies are kind of the same so far this year. Most of television has been invaded by all these horrid reality shows. Now Donald Trump has a show. ::)
The UConn men's team even won the national championship again just as they did in '99.
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I could write a whole screed on what a disgusting statement these "reality" shows make about our culture, but I got myself in enough trouble here ranking on "The Donald."
Don't talk to me of college sports. I'm in the UMass community. Our Minutemen get their butts beat up one end of the field and down the other in almost every game I hear!
:P :-[
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
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It does kinda seem like 1999 all over again. The movies are kind of the same so far this year. Most of television has been invaded by all these horrid reality shows. Now Donald Trump has a show. ::)
The UConn men's team even won the national championship again just as they did in '99.
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how do all the crappy reality TV shows make it seem like 1999? all we had in 99 was The Real World.
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
How about The Swan? That's not really a good show.
Howard
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how do all the crappy reality TV shows make it seem like 1999? all we had in 99 was The Real World.
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Its more like an evolved version of 1999 where this crap pervades much of pop culture. At least the music now is an improvement over 99.
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I could write a whole screed on what a disgusting statement these "reality" shows make about our culture, but I got myself in enough trouble here ranking on "The Donald."
Don't talk to me of college sports. I'm in the UMass community. Our Minutemen get their butts beat up one end of the field and down the other in almost every game I hear!
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God forbid anyone rag on Donald. Maybe he should run for President.
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God forbid anyone rag on Donald. Maybe he should run for President.
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He looks like a movie star, he's a billionaire, he's wantonly greedy and egomaniacal, and he inhereted millions while posing as a business guru who did it all himself. He'd be the perfect Republican candidate. However, his history with women would send up all the puritanical red flags of the Christian right. Now, if he was from Houston, not New York City, crowed ceaselessly about Jesus, and never played any hanky-panky, he might have been Dubya's VP already!
Subject: Re: Will the Britney era ever end??
I read in a magazine that Britney is just rehashing old ideas for her concerts from older generation singers like Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez and Madonna. Why can't she just sing great songs instead of concentrating on being controversial? I liked her at the start - she's a bit too slutty now.
As for a Britney channel, Lyricboy. I just hope it's on subscription so I don't have to bump into it when I'm channel hopping. ;D
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I read in a magazine that Britney is just rehashing old ideas for her concerts from older generation singers like Janet Jackson, Jennifer Lopez and Madonna. Why can't she just sing great songs instead of concentrating on being controversial? I liked her at the start - she's a bit too slutty now.
As for a Britney channel, Lyricboy. I just hope it's on subscription so I don't have to bump into it when I'm channel hopping. ;D
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She's also trying to create a reality show, *gag* vomit :P
Howard
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She's also trying to create a reality show, *gag* vomit :P
Howard
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"Newly Divorced: With Britney & Some Guy She Met In A Bar" ::)
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"Newly Divorced: With Britney & Some Guy She Met In A Bar" ::)
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That was pretty good,whoopy! ;D
Howard