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Subject: When did the 90's end and the '00s begin?
I think the 00's began around late 2001/early 2002 with 9-11, boy bands fading out and bands like the White Stripes and the Strokes starting to become popular. What do you think?
Subject: Re: When did the 90's end and the '00s begin?
I think you're wrong. I know that pop culture and stuff seemed to fade out around then, like you said, but the simple fact remains that the decade "00's" started on January 1st, 2000, at midnite, and it will end on December 31st, 2009, at 11:59 pm. It is illogical to think anything to the contrary. ::)
The years that constitute a decade has been mentioned time and again. The 90s, by definition, consisted of the years 1990 through 1999, that's why they're called that; the 80s, likewise, consisted of the years 1980 through 1989, etc.
Subject: Re: When did the 90's end and the '00s begin?
I thought it began in 2001, because the first year EVER in the AD system was 1 AD, not 0 AD. Had it been 0 AD then the '00s would have started on 1st January 2000 AD. However, it wasn't- it was the Year of our Lord, 1.
Q.E.D.
Subject: Re: When did the 90's end and the '00s begin?
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I thought it began in 2001, because the first year EVER in the AD system was 1 AD, not 0 AD. Had it been 0 AD then the '00s would have started on 1st January 2000 AD. However, it wasn't- it was the Year of our Lord, 1.
Q.E.D.
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Correct... but what you're thinking of is the "201st Decade". The "00s" and the "201st Decade" constitute different time periods. One way to look at it is to draw a Venn diagram, with one circle representing "the 00s" (2000-2009) and the other one representing "the 201st Decade" (2001-2010). The year 2000 will be by itself in the "00s" circle, the year 2010 will be by itself in the "201st decade" circle, and the years 2001-2009 will be in both circles.
Subject: Re: When did the 90's end and the '00s begin?
Quoting:
I thought it began in 2001, because the first year EVER in the AD system was 1 AD, not 0 AD. Had it been 0 AD then the '00s would have started on 1st January 2000 AD. However, it wasn't- it was the Year of our Lord, 1.
Q.E.D.
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Judging be the astronomical conditions reported in the Bible, the birth of Jesus is estimated between 7 and 3 BC. That's why I thought the argument over whether we should call the arrival of the new millennium 2000 or 2001 useless.
There was no universally followed calendar at the time of Jesus. Julius Caesar regularized the Roman calendar in 45 BC (or CE 2B PC!).
The calandar we used today, the Gregorian Calendar, was adopted by Pope Gregory VIII in 1582 to correct for the erroneous Julian Calendar, which had fallen badly out of sync.
However, the countries of the Eastern Orthodox church continued to use the Julian Calandar as late as 1900. The Eastern church still observes holidays by the Julian Calandar.
Thus, at the time of Jesus, the Roman world was using the Julian Calendar. They did not count backwards until the got word a certain child named Joshua was born to a virgin in Israel. There was no year zero to be sure, but there was never a year 1,2,3,4,5 and so on..
You would not have overheard in the Roman senate, "What's the date, Augustus?"
"It's March 29th, Ought-Five, Germanicus."
I mean, come on!
Thus, I consider January 1, 2000 the beginning of the new millennium. It's when we started saying "two thousand" instead of "nineteen."
;D