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'Specially if the US food industry have anything to do with it...

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Exactly.

When someone eats supersized fast food every day, they are going to be fat.  Its not rocket science.  

And yes I know that some obese people are the case of bad genetics, but please, most aren't.

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That's why people have to stop going to McDonalds. >:(


Howard
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Howard,
It's not THAT EASY.
How do I know-I'm over 300 lbs. I got that way because I AM OBSESSED WITH FOOD. It's part of my psychiatric illness,and I struggle with the problem every waking hour. Thank God my medical day-care center is helping me avoid temptation and also to deal with it's underlying causes. An overeating problem often shows up in childhood when parents use food to comfort kids or as a bribe for good behavior-these parents substitute instant gratification-FOOD-for genuine love!! I'm paying for my problem DEARLY due to type 2 diabetes as well as joint problems and COPD with asthma-like symptoms. Obesity is no laughing matter,so don't laugh at us big people. Try to understand that we DO try to deal with it!!

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What really gets me is some people have never walked in my shoes as a fat person. While I acknowledge my size is unhealthy and am struggling to change that,I don't think i'm ugly or unattractive at all. What matters most for a plus size woman(or man for that matter) is knowing how to dress to emphasize your GOOD features! And don't think that being big means wearing stuff like muu-muus and sweatsuits. There's nice,stylish,TASTEFUL clothing for big folks,you just have to know where to find it!Same with maternity clothes for expectant moms-they have become less frilly and TACKY,and more real-world stylish.
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If I said anything offensive,I apologize.I hope I didn't hurt your feelings. :-[ I'm sorry! :-[


Howard

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Howard,
It's not THAT EASY.
How do I know-I'm over 300 lbs. I got that way because I AM OBSESSED WITH FOOD. It's part of my psychiatric illness,and I struggle with the problem every waking hour. Thank God my medical day-care center is helping me avoid temptation and also to deal with it's underlying causes. An overeating problem often shows up in childhood when parents use food to comfort kids or as a bribe for good behavior-these parents substitute instant gratification-FOOD-for genuine love!! I'm paying for my problem DEARLY due to type 2 diabetes as well as joint problems and COPD with asthma-like symptoms. Obesity is no laughing matter,so don't laugh at us big people. Try to understand that we DO try to deal with it!!
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My Brother died from Diabetes 9 years ago. :'(

Howard

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I don't think Howard is laughing at anybody, really.  In a rather simple way, he's saying the obvious thing to do to lose weight is to stop eating.  I am not familiar with eating disorders but I know that they exist and even though I've never known anybody with an eating disorder, I sympathize.  

Just as with drugs, alcohol, tobacco and firearms, the education has been laid out for a number of years about what harms that can come of them.  It's up to the people to take advantage of this education to improve their lifestyles.  I'm not going to make fun of someone for being fat, or being addicted to crack, or whatever, but what I'm saying, and in a way, what Howard is saying, is that people should take matters into their own hands to be healthier.
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I wasn't laughing at anyone. Honest,I wasn't! please believe me! :(


Howard

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I wasn't laughing at anyone. Honest,I wasn't! please believe me! :(


Howard
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I know you weren't, Howard, don't trip 8) :)

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I know you weren't, Howard, don't trip 8) :)
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Sorry if I took your comments the wrong way,Howard! By the way,I lost 6 pounds.

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I know you weren't, Howard, don't trip 8) :)
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I'm cool.Thank You. :)


Howard

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Sorry if I took your comments the wrong way,Howard! By the way,I lost 6 pounds.
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That is good to hear.I wish you well. ;D


Howard

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By the way,I lost 6 pounds.
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Good for you!

I am a plus size woman myself.  My problem is that I love food.  I am losing weight, though.  I just control how much I eat (trying to avoid fast food) and try to ride my exercise bike 5 miles a day.  I have also made a goal of 1 pound a week.  It isn't too hard to acheive and if you miss it, it doesn't hurt as much.

Good luck with your food issues. :)

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Sorry if I took your comments the wrong way,Howard! By the way,I lost 6 pounds.
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Congratulations.  I know it seems like a small step, but at least it's a step.  Good for you for knowing you have a problem with food and taking the steps to understand and overcome it.  There are far too many people out there today who just don't care, then come crying when they've got a weight-related illness.

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Congratulations.  I know it seems like a small step, but at least it's a step.  Good for you for knowing you have a problem with food and taking the steps to understand and overcome it.  There are far too many people out there today who just don't care, then come crying when they've got a weight-related illness.
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Being big yes it's hard for me,but when I see people with other handicaps LIVING THEIR LIVES despite their pain and suffering,I realize that I really have no reason to whine or complain! I just deal with the weight-y problem one day at a time,one moment at a time. And thanx for the support. So many people just criticize. ;)

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My Father is pretty big.He loves to eat himself.He used to weigh 250 pounds.Now I think he weighs 230.thing is,it's only water he loses.He unmotivated.He loves sitting on his butt doing the computer,listening to doo-wop all day & enjoys eating.He never excersized before. >:(

Howard
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He loves to eat himself?  Sounds painful.  :P

;D

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He loves to eat himself?  Sounds painful.  :P

;D
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Sorry LB.I didn't explain thoroughly.I said he loves to eat a whole lot but he never excersized before. ;D

Howard

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Let me say I am 12 lbs. overweight (to much KFC.)  But let me say I have this friend and he has the right genetics the the extreme.  He is 6'3'' and weighs 95 lbs.  The thing is he wants to gain weight but can't.  He goes to mcdonalds, bk, chick-fila, KFC, churchs, Mrs. winner's, etc.  ALL OF IT.  And no matter what he cannot reach 100 lbs.  Hes even tried eating 3 bowls of pasta just minutes before bed.  I don't know weather to feel alittle jealous or sorry.
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There ARE ways to gain weight.  I had to go on a "special" diet when I was younger because I was severely underweight (at age 11, I was 5'6" and weighed 52#).  Eating fast food won't do it for him, but it could cause other problems.  I doubt I still have it, but I'll check.  I remember eating alot of bread & pasta & some awful shakes (kinda like Ensure, but back then, they were nasty).  I was on it for 3 years until I hit a "normal" weight.  Now, I wish I had that problem. :P

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I know people who are overweight. They love to eat cookies it seems. The snacks just make those people gain excess weight they don't need. To me if you are happy with your appearence even thats ok but somebody is overweight you can risk getting diabete's which can be very deadly. I notice people who lose alot of weight look about 10 years younger than they previously did.


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Some people overeat for the same reason alcoholics drink-It's an addictions issue,and also how they 'blot out' life's unpleasant things!

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Another thing about my plus-size frame is that it makes me a big,fat target for rude people to make nasty comments about! These teenagers were making fun of the way I walked,and had I been their own age and not a grownup,I would have been in tears! And their PARENTS let such rudeness go unpunished! What's unfortunate is that society pitches a 'thin is in' and 'fat is ugly' image to teens and children!
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I'm sorry to hear that. :(


Howard

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What's unfortunate is that society pitches a 'thin is in' and 'fat is ugly' image to teens and children!
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This is all too true. TV and advertising show an unbalanced view of reality to say the least. About one percent of the population look like the 99% of "young, slender and beautiful" models used in advertising. What a warped picture of reality. And most of our young people feel pressured to look this way, emphasizing outer beauty over inner beauty, which seems to count for nothing these days, or even be a detriment.

On a side note, this is perhaps why some of the reality shows are so popular. They (sort of) put the spotlight on the average person which appeals to those of us who are bored with perfect teeth, abs, waistlines and complexions.

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There ARE ways to gain weight.  I had to go on a "special" diet when I was younger because I was severely underweight (at age 11, I was 5'6" and weighed 52#).  Eating fast food won't do it for him, but it could cause other problems.  I doubt I still have it, but I'll check.  I remember eating alot of bread & pasta & some awful shakes (kinda like Ensure, but back then, they were nasty).  I was on it for 3 years until I hit a "normal" weight.  Now, I wish I had that problem. :P
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I was in an eating disorders rehab that treated ANYONE with an eating disorder,including people with ANOREXIA and BULIMIA! Some of the people I saw looked like concentration camp POW's,but I felt bad for them too,because,like much of American female society,the one thing they DID swallow was the 'thin ideal'that society was throwing at them!!

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I was in an eating disorders rehab that treated ANYONE with an eating disorder,including people with ANOREXIA and BULIMIA! Some of the people I saw looked like concentration camp POW's,but I felt bad for them too,because,like much of American female society,the one thing they DID swallow was the 'thin ideal'that society was throwing at them!!
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I didn't have an eating disorder, I was just naturally tall and skinny.  I ate constantly, but as I found out, I was not eating the right things.  Unfortunately, since I've had kids and gotten older, my metabolism is not the same as it used to be.  I'm not considered overweight, I'm 10# below the upper end of the "average" weight for my height, but I'd still like to be able to get down to my pre-babies weight.  I don't think that's going to happen, though, as I've tried many different diet/exercise programs and haven't lost a pound.  So, I've learned to accept that I'm at the weight I'm supposed to be.

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Being made fun of behind your back hurts more. At least when they say something to your face, they make it obvious that they are not worth your time.

When its behind your back, then you never know if the person will actually be a friend to you or not. Do you get what I'm saying?

People who go behind the back are more cowardly anyways, because they don't want to deal with the reaction they will get from the person they are making fun of. Whether it be for the person to cry, fight back, or whatever they would do, the "bully" doesn't want to get a dose of reality in their abusive reverie.

I know I couldn't ever be that way to anyone, cuz its happened to me before and I know how much it hurts to be made fun of, especially behind your back.

If I have something I want to say to someione, I tell them to their face in a mature, civil way, not like a cruel third grader.

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I agree.  I had a kid who constantly called me "the skeleton" to his friends.  The one time he actually said it to my face, I said back to him "Yeah, well at least I didn't flunk kindergarten".  That was the last time he said a word about or to me (well, that I know of).

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I wish my Father would start to excersize.just stop using the computer for the time being and go out and jog. >:(


Howard
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Actually your dad should check with a doctor before starting an exercise program,because he could have hidden health problems that may need to be treated first. But once he is okayed for exercise,he should start slow and easy and work upwards,until he finds something that works well for him.

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I wish my Father would start to excersize.just stop using the computer for the time being and go out and jog. >:(

Howard
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My Dad never exercised, and he lived to be 86 !   ;D

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Actually your dad should check with a doctor before starting an exercise program,because he could have hidden health problems that may need to be treated first. But once he is okayed for exercise,he should start slow and easy and work upwards,until he finds something that works well for him.
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thing is,My Father has no motivation whatsoever.He likes sitting on his fat butt and use his computer all night. >:(

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thing is,My Father has no motivation whatsoever.He likes sitting on his fat butt and use his computer all night. >:(
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Howard,

What kind of work does your Dad do during the day?  I once worked on a job that was EXTREMELY high stress, and when I got home, all I wanted to do was crash, because I was burned out.

LB

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If I had a dime I heard "GOD!  YOU'RE SO SKINNY!" or was called "beanpole" or "Praying mantis", I'd be a rich woman. Oh wait...
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???  Wait for what ???

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Howard,

What kind of work does your Dad do during the day?  I once worked on a job that was EXTREMELY high stress, and when I got home, all I wanted to do was crash, because I was burned out.

LB
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My father works at Tourneau(The fancy watch place) for the past 13 years now.He will be retiring this May so he'll be staying home after May of this year.Overall,he's worked himself out for 32 years. >:( *gag* :P


Howard

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One thing that I might suggest that restaurants stop doing is to discontinue the "all you can eat specials".

I have a buddy who will go to an all-you-can-eat, and will literally eat himself sick,  :P till he can barely get up from the table.  He is then worthless for the rest of the day because he is so stuffed.

Normally, he eats a "little more than he should", but when the AYCE is on, he just goes into overdrive, because he thinks it is such a bargain.  Getting a bargain is good in his mind, and the more he eats then the biger the bargain, so the better it is.

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You mean The All you can eat buffetts?


Howard

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You mean The All you can eat buffetts?


Howard
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Not just an all you can eat buffet, but also places like Red Lobster, or even "Mom and Pop" places that have AYCE specials.  I remember one time he sent the waitress back 5 times to reload his plate.

He'd do this every time there was an AYCE special, and just get sick!

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One thing that I might suggest that restaurants stop doing is to discontinue the "all you can eat specials".

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I totally agree. One of the biggest culprits is Las Vegas. I was there last year and I was amazed and disgusted by the way people piled on the food from the buffets (which were in just about every restaurant) I saw enormous parents with enormous kids everywhere I looked. Its hard to believe this is just now making headlines.
Since smoking is pretty much outlawed in every public building, we might as well outlaw buffets considering its killing just as many people as cigarettes. Thank god theres no such thing as second hand weight gain, or we'd all be in trouble.

I don't mean to offend anyone and I know that often there's other factors involved in obesity, but its hard to be sympathetic to overweight people who shovel in food like its their last meal.  :-[

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Not just an all you can eat buffet, but also places like Red Lobster, or even "Mom and Pop" places that have AYCE specials.  I remember one time he sent the waitress back 5 times to reload his plate.

He'd do this every time there was an AYCE special, and just get sick!
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I love those breakfast buffetts where you choose to get eggs,bacon,toast,sausages,waffles,muffins,hash browns, danishes,coffee,juice.You get sick from overeating THAT! :P ;D

Howard

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They should shut down fast food joints alltogether and lets see what happens if people go crazy or not? Would society feel better without FF joints? >:(

Howard
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The main problem with most fast food is that it is COOKED fast, typically by frying in oil or grilling in grease.  Even healthier foods like fish or chicken become very unhealthy when dunked in rying oil, or slathered with mayonnaise.

Being "fast" helps people save time, so that aspect of fast food is good.  But...

We need a fast food establishment that is both fast and HEALTHY.  Is that too much to ask?

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Call one fast food joint McHealthy where absolutely everything in the restaurant is good for you.You'll see no hamburgers,french fries,McFlurries & colas.I don't know about the salads.They could stay if they want. :D

Howard
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Salads are good, but some of the "salad dressings" offered by the fast-food joints have more fat than a Whopper!

McHealthy restaurants must offer only nonfat salad dressings.   ;D :P

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My father is retiring after 40 years of working from 1964-2004.I think he's gonna be eating more and sitting his fatass on the chair using the computer now that he will be home after May 7th. *ick,gag* :P >:(

Howard
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I hope he learns to get some exercise, even if it is just walking a couple miles a day.  Without a day job, and no exercise, is definitely not good for him!

LB   ;D

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Salads are good, but some of the "salad dressings" offered by the fast-food joints have more fat than a Whopper!

McHealthy restaurants must offer only nonfat salad dressings.   ;D :P
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the Ceasar Chicken salad is pretty good. ;D


Howard

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I hope he learns to get some exercise, even if it is just walking a couple miles a day.  Without a day job, and no exercise, is definitely not good for him!

LB   ;D
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At home,He'll be making up some new resumes and doing computer work and eating himself silly and sleeping on his sofa. :P I don't want him home.

Howard

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When its behind your back, then you never know if the person will actually be a friend to you or not. Do you get what I'm saying?

Rio
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Indeed I do. A 'friend' told other people that I am a loser for going out with a woman with a child. Why? Through boredom at work . . .

Sorry, off topic, but there you go.

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My Father is pretty big.He loves to eat himself.He used to weigh 250 pounds.Now I think he weighs 230.
Howard
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Has he eaten a whole 20 pounds of himself?? ;D

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Has he eaten a whole 20 pounds of himself?? ;D
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20 pounds of food is more like it. ;D


Howard

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20 pounds of food is more like it. ;D


Howard
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Sorry mate, after I had posted my entry I noticed someone else had made a similar 'joke' to the one I posted already...wasn't that funny anyway... :D

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Sorry mate, after I had posted my entry I noticed someone else had made a similar 'joke' to the one I posted already...wasn't that funny anyway... :D
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I'd say it was pretty funny! ;D

Howard

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 We'd all agree that Oreos and Twinkies are junkfood, but what about Wheat Thins or pizza?
The tax advocates want to encourage consumers to make healthier choices, so it wouldn't make any sense to tax Oreos at the same rate as Fig Newtons.  Do we tax Oreos at 15% and Newtons at 3%.  What about Double Stuff Oreos as opposed to regular?   Would the tax on a fastfood burger jump from 7% to 12% if you add bacon or cheese?  
You can see how impossibly complex this gets!
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Just don't tax the Four Basic Food Groups:

Hostess Ho-Ho's
Pecan Spins
Sweetarts
Slurpees

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Just don't tax the Four Basic Food Groups:

Hostess Ho-Ho's
Pecan Spins
Sweetarts
Slurpees

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Up in rural NH, land that I love, the four food groups are:
Caffeine
Nicotine
Alcohol
and
Ketchup
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Just don't tax the Four Basic Food Groups:

Hostess Ho-Ho's
Pecan Spins
Sweetarts
Slurpees

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Don't 4get Oreo Cookies?


Howard