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Subject: New Music, Old Music
Is it just me or is it that Old music seems like it took a lot of thought to create a good song say from Led Zeppelin. Nowadays I've heard my friends music, and it seems these bands whip off the first thing in their heads and call it a song.
Not to sound like an old-timer or anything ('cuz I'm a kid myself).
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Well with stuff like Pro-Tools around these days anyone can knock up a song in five minutes flat. But it doesn't take much effort to whip out a hit single. A lot of the big chart hits from the 50s and 60s were one-hit wonder bubblegum pop songs, much like today. If you want to look at the "thought" that went into some of Led Zeppelin's stuff, three of the songs on their first album were actually covers, and a couple more were ripped off the Yardbirds. That record was thrown together in a few days! I can see your point, though, and agree with it, but it's something that's always happened, really.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Persoanlly, I think about 99% of music from 1990-present is crap. :)
I love 80s music and 70s rock.
Today's music is basically blah. Its all the same. If you hear one current song, you've heard them all.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Although I didn't mean Led Zeppelin in particular, it's just that I've heard some of my friends s**t 'punk rock', and I can't stand it. Some of them are like 4 seconds long. :(
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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Persoanlly, I think about 99% of music from 1990-present is crap. :)
I love 80s music and 70s rock.
Today's music is basically blah. Its all the same. If you hear one current song, you've heard them all.
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I have the same point of view.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Hey guys,
I agree with you in general, but the real problem is, the radio.
With such poor excuses for radio stations out there the kids have nothing better to be exposed to.
I remember in the 80's (and early 90's) the radio was a wonderland of different sounds. But not anymore with Clear Channel and their ilk with sound-alike empty-headed "songs" ten times an hour.
If you love music, as I'm sure you do, we have to realize that there are actually good new music out there but you just aren't going to hear it on the radio..
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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I love 80s music and 70s rock.
Today's music is basically blah. Its all the same. If you hear one current song, you've heard them all.
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Classic rock radio has told me that it wasn't much better than in the 70's and 80's, 80'sRocked. I mean, this Journey song sounded like that REO Speedwagon song, and this Motley Crue ballad could have been sung by Poison, and what could have been Jim Croce could also have been Harry Chapin.
But this might be because classic rock radio only plays the same forty songs over and over again.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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But this might be because classic rock radio only plays the same forty songs over and over again.
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My problem is with the classification "Classic Rock". What is or who defines what is "Classic" rock is anyway? At one time its all 70's/early 80's rock, then its 80's new/wave or punk.
The other day I was listening and I heard Nirvana & R.E.M? ???The selections that are played on classic rock stations are arbitray and without any real "test" or qulalfication of what a "classic" ::) tune is.
Leave it to radio to try and put any music into a box or in a pigenhole and you are always going to have issues..
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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My problem is with the classification "Classic Rock". What is or who defines what is "Classic" rock is anyway? At one time its all 70's/early 80's rock, then its 80's new/wave or punk.
The other day I was listening and I heard Nirvana & R.E.M? ???The selections that are played on classic rock stations are arbitray and without any real "test" or qulalfication of what a "classic" ::) tune is.
Leave it to radio to try and put any music into a box or in a pigenhole and you are always going to have issues..
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Well, that's the average radio station for you.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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Well with stuff like Pro-Tools around these days anyone can knock up a song in five minutes flat.
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:owow, what is this Pro-tools? It sounds like a new date-rape drug lol..... ;D
though, I do feel that its kind of jumping to conclusions to say that ANYONE can do in only 5 minutes.......
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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Hey guys,
If you love music, as I'm sure you do, we have to realize that there are actually good new music out there but you just aren't going to hear it on the radio..
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I agree! I mean, at least I'd like to hear some different songs once in a while. I think this is why so many people get tired of certain artists.
For example, I am SICK TO DEATH of hearing most J-Lo songs (Jenny From The Block, All I Have, etc). However, I recently chanced upon a very sweet song by her called "Again", and it means a lot to me right now, as I've just begun my first serious relationship. BUT I didn't hear the song! I was actually on a lyric page looking for the lyrics to another song that I am sick of so I could parody it! (It's more fun to parody songs you hate.)
So there is good new music out there, it's just not the popular stuff.
Which brings me to another point: When we get sick of what's popular and are beginning to be tired of certain artists, why doesn't whoever handles the music look to see if they can find another, different, never or rarely played song on the same CD? You never know, that could actually help the artist...and the radio station.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Yeah, I don't like when people complain that there's NO good music out there nowadays. I mean, if all you're doing is turning to the radio for it, chances are, yes, you're going to hate it (if you don't like the stuff they play). But you just have to go a little deeper than the radio. The radio plays the same fricking Clay Aiken or Jennifer Lopez songs once every two hours. Of course you're going to hate it.
I'm not saying the radio is all bad, I listen to it, but they tend to overplay a lot of stuff. You just have to go a bit deeper and find more artists out there. There are tons of them that aen't even on the radio. It might change the way you think about today's music.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Quoting:But this might be because classic rock radio only plays the same forty songs over and over again.
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that is very true.
There used to be a great classic rock station in town that played a huge variety of great songs. Now its like they have their entire playlist on a never-ending loop. At one time, you could almost set your watch based on which songs were on.
But regarding radio in general, I don't listen to FM radio hardly at all anymore. In fact, I listen to AM probably 99% of the time, and FM the other 1%.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
All The songs the same.nothing new anymore.time to just trash the old radio. >:(
Howard
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
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Yeah, I don't like when people complain that there's NO good music out there nowadays. I mean, if all you're doing is turning to the radio for it, chances are, yes, you're going to hate it (if you don't like the stuff they play). But you just have to go a little deeper than the radio. The radio plays the same fricking Clay Aiken or Jennifer Lopez songs once every two hours. Of course you're going to hate it.
I'm not saying the radio is all bad, I listen to it, but they tend to overplay a lot of stuff. You just have to go a bit deeper and find more artists out there. There are tons of them that aen't even on the radio. It might change the way you think about today's music.
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Agree pretty much with that.
I also hate it when people say ' all pop music' is crap. I'm sure I've defined my hatred for this phrase in a previous thread, but it's always the poeple who don't know anything about music. Pop is just popular - that's the initial confusion. Nowadays, it has modern boy/girl band connotations, being bublegum/'cutesy'unsubstantial, and having no good lyrical content. That's not all true in my opinion. There's good pop music out there, if your looking for that certain genre. And there are, and have been, some very very good 'pop' songs.
As for old music, yes I do tend to prefer music from the late 70s-mid 90s period. I like the aforementioned 'pop' stuff, but I mainly listen to music which has good lyrics and good music. My favourite bands from this era are The Smiths, The Clash, The Jam, The Police etc... Will there be bands charting in 2004 who were remotely like these lot? Maybe, but my guess is not really.
However, I gotta say, 2003 has seen a big improvement in music. 97-01 generally have been quite dire for substantial music. Again, I'm not saying there was no good music made in those years - as some very good songs were released. But generally, just generally the popular music scene wasn't at its height.
Sometimes I wish I could have lived my teen years through the 80s. Then again, maybe I would not have appreciated them back then.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
I prefer listening to the oldies.today's music sucks badly! >:(
Howard
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Personally I like R&B and Rock Music from the early 80 to mid 90's(1982-1996.) I think 1997-1998 was ok. Even some late 70's funk with the Commodores and Earth Wind & Fire I like. 1999-present has been filled with too much junk on the radio. I don't even listen to Top 40 radio anymore. I can't stand it. I'm 24 years old and I feel like my parents in terms of listening to music nowdays. I quit listening to Top 40 in mid 2000. I just gave up hope on most mainstream music. I don't even listen to the rock radio anymore. Its a bunch screaming and no talents. What happened to quality bands like Stone Temple Pilots and Pearl Jam? The 80's had some cheesy music but some of it was good. I think the big problem with music is sound alike watered down rap music. Some of this rap musc is not even real rap music. Salt N Pepa, Naughty by Nature were rap. The stuff you here today is just dead weight and the music just lacks energy and substance.
Subject: Re: New Music, Old Music
Lol. Some DJ told me the difference between Hip-Hop and R&B a few weeks back - I've forgotten what that difference is now ;D.
My main gripe is that there are few people willing to produce something different. People in the music world are getting lazy, often preferring to cover/sample other people's music (I know this has been done previously but it seems more prominent since about 1996). Singers are trying to get fame and fortune through the backdoor with the minimal amount of effort/creativity neccessary (note Pop Idol).
For me, the only group that has sparked any kind of interest in the last year is 'The Darkness'.