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do you think we should do to the "Butcher of Baghdad"?
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I say that we should shave his head, and then parade him thru the streets of Bagdad wearing a pink bunny suit. :D

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He'll more than likely suffer from some "accident" while in interrogation.  Y'know... dying from 78 self-inflicted knife wounds, or something to that flavour.   ;)
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Actually, I think he will survive, at least until the end of his trial.  THat is unless he kills himself.  But I doubt that, because he already had the chance to do that, and he did not.

I think he is much more valuable as he is, a total disgrace to his regeime and his beliefs.  WHat is funny is that even now, he claims that he was a "kind and benivolent leader", and he never did ANY of the things he is accused of.  This fits the definition of sociopath fully.

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Of course, that will be after they have finished getting all the intel they can out of him and before the public finds out about the extant of the USA's dirty little secrets in the middle east that would cast it in a bad light.  :P
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Well, odds are that he does not know a lot more details then anybody else caught so far.

Leaders like him are very good at insulating themselves from the "dirty secrets".  I am sure Hitler knew all about the death camps, but I doubt he could have told you where more then 1 or 2 were.  I am sure he knows about the chemical weapons.  After all, he ordered their use on the Kurds.  But even if he was willing to talk, I doubt he can tell you where they ever were.

As for "dirty secrets", what could that be?  People are so wrapped up in conspiracy theories, they often just miss the most obvious answer.  Yes, we did help him at one time and give him money and supplies.  So what?  We did the same thing for Germany before WWII, Russia, Ho Chi Minh and the Vietcong, General Shankishek, even Napolean.  So what?

One thing we do tend to do here in the US is help others, especially underdogs.  But once we get bit, we also tend to pull back and refuse further aid.

So when it is all said and done, what can he say?  That we helped his weapons program?  It is well known that he got Anthrax from us.  At the time, anybody could get it, you just requested it and it was mailed to you.  Russia got some from us also, as have dozens of countries.

That we gave him weapons?  Again, so what.  We are the worlds #4 arms exporter, behind France, China, and Russia.  They all sold to Saddam also.

That we gave him intelligence?  Again, so what.  We do that with everybody, and they do the same thing.  That is how the game works.  Even during the cold war, we traded with Russia.  We even gave intelligence to England during the Island Malvinas incident with Argentina, in disreguard to our own policies and the Monrow Doctrine.

Of course, don't forget that France was buying embargo oil from them, in disreguard to UN sanctions.  It has been said many times that Germany and Russia did the same thing.  They also continued to sell them weapons and components for making chemical weapons, in disreguard to UN sanctions.

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80s-rocked, you have an incredible ability of understating the obvious.
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Welcome back Nostradamas.  TO bad you are still to stupid to figure out how to register.

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Welcome back Nostradamas.  TO bad you are still to stupid to figure out how to register.
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sorry... guess again.  if I was that loser, I'd call you names instead of providing you with facts.

What's the matter, easier to attack the messenger instead of the message?  The fact is, your republican cronies made this guy powerful, and then cried when he stopped playing by their rules.  Kind of like Noreiga

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80s-rocked, you have an incredible ability of understating the obvious.

Saying the US gave Sadams some weapons, makes it sound like he got a few pop guns
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Well thank you.  I know I'm smart and all, no need for you to keep reminding me.  :)

But look again, you got the wrong person.

Quoting:The fact is, your republican cronies made this guy powerful, and then cried when he stopped playing by their rules.  Kind of like Noreiga
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Mistakes were made in the past.  If only we had a time machine to go back and change things 20 years after it happened.

But, whats done is done, and the only option now is to move forward and deal with it.  Bush is doing that.  Something that was over a decade overdue.

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Well thank you.  I know I'm smart and all, no need for you to keep reminding me.  :)

But look again, you got the wrong person.
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you are right, I got my neo-con sheep mixed up. the word smart though is neither mentioned nor implied in my posts.  Amazing how conservatives just imagine things.  I bet you think Rush Limbaugh is unduly persecuted.

I like that... mistakes were made.  Gee, sorry we supported weapons of mass destruction in the past. We'll make up for it by spending even more money, and killing even more people, and to top it off, let's kill our own guys in the process.

The neocons keep changing their story.  First it's WMDs, then it's humantarian reasons, now it's Sadam's capture. The neocons created this mistake in the 80s, and now want credit for fixing it.  It's like dropping something expensive on the floor and then saying "Look, I swept it up, give me some money."

The neocons can jump up and down all they want at Sadam's capture.  They still haven't caught the mastermind behind 9-11, they aren't even close.  They left one mess behind, created another, and have solved nothing.  It's like they want two Vietnams at the same time.  Sadam's out of power, oh boy.  Didn't stop any of the killing yesterday, and most of the celebrators thought he escaped!  All they did, was capture their puppet.  Now they have to keep him from speaking about his dirty dealings with the US all these years, hence the lack of an international tribune.

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Personally, I don't fully trust any of the news, whether its western, eastern, or wherever.  News media these days seem to be about 25% factual news and 75% opinionated commentary.  And that goes for all the news outlets, not just the western ones.

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it was made clear by the administration early Sunday morning that the news of Saddam's capture would not be a "victory party" atmosphere.  Yes, it was a huge development, but as has already been said, it was important to not lose focus.

I think it was a smart move taking that route.

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TROLL ALERT

I gave him a chance thinking maybe it wasn't a troll.  But, you see how that turned out. ::)  I have my speculation as to who it is based on the words he was using (over and over).  Reminds me of someone that used to be on here earlier this year.
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Sorry, hate to burst your bubble, but you're the only troll in this thread. I made an argument and backed it with fact.  You back yours with trying to call me a troll. Like I said earlier, you attack the messenger, not the message.

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I recommend all responses to the Troll cease immediately.
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I agree, no point in arguing with you.  You have nothing to say for yourself, only the same tired cliches from your party.

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I find it interesting that a Troll uses an OPINION from a net article from Australia as a FACT.

This is nothing against Australia, or anyplace else.  It is that the troll used an opinion piece, and THAT is his basis for his post.  I can find opinions written that say Reagan was a mass murderer, and others saying he was a saint.  Neither of them proves anything however, it is just an opinion.

Opinions are like Diapers.  They often stink, and are full of...  well, you get the picture.  But at least I state my opinions as opinions, and do not scream and insult those who oppose them.
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Sure is an opinion piece.  Regan never sent them money, never sent them arms.  Quick, look over there, a liberal is spending your money. You're seriousily denying they sent him money, weapons, and looked the other way when used gas on the front lines of the Iran-Iraq war? I guess if it was on newsmax you'd believe it.  

I never resorted to calling you names, yet you call me a troll. funny stuff.