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Subject: Censorship
What are your opinions about censorship?
I'm sure others would ignore my beliefs on this issue considering I'm just a teenager, but knowing the open and all-around-good people on this board, I feel like people will actually listen to what I think. :D
I think censorship really depends on who you're dealing with - I mean, there are 10-year-olds who could handle an R-rated movie with no "scarring" effects, and there are 20-somethings who try to imitate mass murders they see in movies and on TV.
It's really the parents' decision for what a child should and shouldn't be exposed to. Profanity and sex in the entertainment world effects me in no way. Gore can bother me sometimes, but nothing that I lose sleep or try to kill someone over. As a teen, it isn't a problem for me, but I know when a teen's parents tell them they can't do something, they want to do it even more. Knowing where the line is for your kid is the best way. Subtle & subliminal ways of dettering bad behavior is the best...pointing out tragic deaths caused by DUIs and such may scare us, but for the better. I've always been disgusted by smoking, but if you have a friend that smokes or used to smoke and is ashamed of it, and is trying to stop, get them to talk to your teen about it without giving them a 'lecture'. Help them curve their anger to discourage violence - boxing (or a similar sport) and listening to hard rock music are two excellent ways. Don't teach them that sex is a bad thing, but do inform them of the consequences of casual sex.
IMO, censorship is the result of bad parenting, and bad peer influence (probably from peers with bad parents). Censorship in less obvious forms too - i.e., not being able to vote until age 21....
I guess what I've said may be easy being a straight-edge teen (no drugs, no alcohol, no sex).
But let me just say one last thing...."Stupid people ruin things for the rest of us." ::)
Subject: Re: Censorship
Hey Junior, just because you are a teenager. It doesn't mean that your view means less. We can learn from everybody. :)
I think it balls down to how easily influenced people are. I saw Friday the 13th when I was 14 (wouldn't it have been ironic if I was 13?) and I just saw the film for what it is - rubbish.
My dad loved Horror films, and even though I developed a liking for them myself, I don't wish to imitate what is on the telly.
I agree with you, Junior but I think ratings are a legal requirement to protect the film makers. Imagine if parents couldn't tell what their kids were watching? A lawsuit follows I'm sure.
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you know what really bothers me about censorship? they warn us about "explicit content" in music and movies...what about books? why aren't books rated? not that i want them to be (that sounds kind of bad), it just makes no sense to censor almost every other type of media and not books. and i am making no sense. :P
Subject: Re: Censorship
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you know what really bothers me about censorship? they warn us about "explicit content" in music and movies...what about books? why aren't books rated? not that i want them to be (that sounds kind of bad), it just makes no sense to censor almost every other type of media and not books. and i am making no sense. :P
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Heh heh! I understand Odd X socks. I think books aren't rated because they aren't as easily accessible. If you watch a film it's in front of your eyes. If you read a book you have to think about it a bit more - I'm not sure if I'm making any sense myself actually.
Subject: Re: Censorship
books are censored. Salman Rushdie had a fatwa (order to be killed) issued against him by the ayatyollah in iran for a book he wrote and he's been in exile since. Plenty of books have been banned by schools in the united states this century and the catholic church used to put out lists of books and documents that were illegal to have (which i think once included the list of illegal documents so that people wouldn't be tempted to read banned books).
I think the reason that books don't have warning labels is that books with "mature" content are at fairly high reading levels so for the most part anyone intelligent enough to read it is intelligent enough not to start doing things that annoy censors as a result of reading the book.
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I remember the book 'Spycatcher' to be quite controversial back in the late eighties.
There is also this person that is causing quite a storm with his book saying that Paedophiles are loving men - forgotten the title but I won't be buying it.
Subject: Re: Censorship
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It's really the parents' decision for what a child should and shouldn't be exposed to. Profanity and sex in the entertainment world effects me in no way. Gore can bother me sometimes, but nothing that I lose sleep or try to kill someone over. End Quote
Just what I was gonna say. I am in no way affected by anything I see on TV or movies, or in music. Because a celebrity says the f-bomb fifteen thousand times in a song doesn't mean I am going to do the same thing. I think edited music is annoying and pointless; everyone knows what word is edited out anyway. I mean, they leave half the word in most of the time, so you hear "sh" and "f". Hmmm, I wonder what they are trying to say? ??? ??? ??? :o ::)
Basically I don't see why music needs to be edited on the radio and such. If parents don't want their kids listening to unedited music then obviously they aren't paying close attention to what they are listening to and that is the parents' own fault.
Subject: Re: Censorship
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books are censored. Salman Rushdie had a fatwa (order to be killed) issued against him by the ayatyollah in iran for a book he wrote and he's been in exile since. Plenty of books have been banned by schools in the united states this century and the catholic church used to put out lists of books and documents that were illegal to have (which i think once included the list of illegal documents so that people wouldn't be tempted to read banned books).
I think the reason that books don't have warning labels is that books with "mature" content are at fairly high reading levels so for the most part anyone intelligent enough to read it is intelligent enough not to start doing things that annoy censors as a result of reading the book.
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hm...i forgot about books being banned. thanks for the info, ethan. :)
Subject: Re: Censorship
How about in wrestling where they "bleep"almost every curse word that is spoken on Mondays and Thursdays.
Howard
Subject: Re: Censorship
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the catholic church used to put out lists of books and documents that were illegal to have (which i think once included the list of illegal documents so that people wouldn't be tempted to read banned books).
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Then how did people know which ones were censored? I can understand why a list of books that were censored would tempt people to read them, but if you didn't know which ones they were, you'd read them anyway because you wouldn't know they were "illegal".
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How about in wrestling where they "bleep"almost every curse word that is spoken on Mondays and Thursdays.
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Heh heh! And during the day when they pan to the audience, when someone gets cracked over the head with a chair.
Subject: Re: Censorship
I do believe that parents should censor what their kids should watch/hear. I don't think that a 5 year old should watch half the shows that are on t.v. these days. However, as an adult, I don't think anyone should tell me what I can see/hear and what I can't. As an adult, I can choose for myself. Personally, I would rather watch a show/movie with nudity and sex than one with violence. Unfortunately, Hollywood seems to be obsessed with violence and most form of entertainment is geared toward violence. The Toyes had a wonderful song about the fact that on t.v. they can show blood and guts but can't showed nudity. As for "colorful metaphors" (as Spock calls them), I don't mind them in moderation and used in appropate places. (Been known to speak a few of those myself.) It is just when people use the "f" word every other word they speak, that just shows me that their vocabulary sucks and they don't know any other adjective in the English language.
Cat
Subject: Re: Censorship
Great point Junior, couldn't agree more...
Id like to add also that, it has been proven that if a child is aloud to see/do stuff that isn't good, but to a limited effect, they are less likely to be doing this illegally or unrightfully later in life. For example, parents who let their children have a drink with them at parties or BBQ's, are much less likely to have those same children go out drinking with their friends as Teenagers or drinking too much on other occasions. And if you wind up with a child who brakes laws like this, IMO, youre not a good parent.
Subject: Re: Censorship
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I do believe that parents should censor what their kids should watch/hear. I don't think that a 5 year old should watch half the shows that are on t.v. these days. However, as an adult, I don't think anyone should tell me what I can see/hear and what I can't. As an adult, I can choose for myself. Personally, I would rather watch a show/movie with nudity and sex than one with violence. Unfortunately, Hollywood seems to be obsessed with violence and most form of entertainment is geared toward violence. The Toyes had a wonderful song about the fact that on t.v. they can show blood and guts but can't showed nudity. As for "colorful metaphors" (as Spock calls them), I don't mind them in moderation and used in appropate places. (Been known to speak a few of those myself.) It is just when people use the "f" word every other word they speak, that just shows me that their vocabulary sucks and they don't know any other adjective in the English language.
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That sort of sums it up for me as well, Catwoman.
Subject: Re: Censorship
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Heh heh! And during the day when they pan to the audience, when someone gets cracked over the head with a chair.
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That's when the cursing begins... ;D
Howard
Subject: Re: Censorship
I'm with Cat on this one. I feel censorship should be used to protect our children from 'growing up too quickly', but has little place in the realms of adulthood. I 'censor' my 2-year olds' intake of stimuli such as TV etc constantly, and feel it is the parents' place to do so. I feel violence should be more heavily censored, as much violence is shown on TV at a time where kids could be watching. I know it's down to parents to manage this, but even adverts for soap operas seen when flicking through channels have disturbed my child in the past!
As for censorship of nudity, I have mixed feelings about this. I want my child to grow up not having 'hangups' about the human body and have little objection to my child seeing naked humans, but would feel uncomfortable with her viewing anything of a sexual nature until she was much older. I feel there is little place for censorship of nudity or sex in the adult arena, but feel that harmful 'knock-on' effects could occur if restrictions were not placed on public viewing of violent sexual acts, paedophilia etc.
Here in the UK, it seems the Government has a fairly divided view. Whilst trying to introduce a 'nanny state' on the whole, the only election promise they've kept is the 'deregulation' of pornography. That this law was passed shortly after one of our Members of Parliement was caught smuggling back hardcore porn from Holland is surely no coincidence...
::)
Subject: Re: Censorship
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What are your opinions about censorship?
I'm sure others would ignore my beliefs on this issue considering I'm just a teenager, but knowing the open and all-around-good people on this board, I feel like people will actually listen to what I think. :DEnd Quote
Not at all Junior! Say what you want! Anyone who ignores you because of your age is ignorant.
Quoting:I think censorship really depends on who you're dealing with - I mean, there are 10-year-olds who could handle an R-rated movie with no "scarring" effects, and there are 20-somethings who try to imitate mass murders they see in movies and on TV.
It's really the parents' decision for what a child should and shouldn't be exposed to. End Quote
Yes it is. I suppose one of the biggest problems we have in today's world is that there are a lot of prents out there who don't give a fig what their kids are doing. Also who let the TV set act as a child-minding device.
Therein lies the biggest problem to the theory. Yet I agree with you - this is what SHOULD happen.
Quoting:But let me just say one last thing...."Stupid people ruin things for the rest of us." ::)
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Words of wisdom my good man ;)