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I feel bad that the Jets lost thier starting QB for most if not all the season.  What a game last night though :)  I can hardly wait until my Broncos play on Sunday!
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After the whipping that Mr. Pennington gave the Colts in last year's playoff game (41-0), I don't feel as sad as a typical jets fan. I don't wish injury on any player, and it would have been great if our Colts could have avenged their licking in our Dome home. Get well soon, Chad. ;)

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Agreed ;) Now let's hope it's Broncos vs Colts in the AFC Championship :D

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Agreed ;) Now let's hope it's Broncos vs Colts in the AFC Championship :D
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And may the winner beat the dreaded Bucs or Lambs in the Super bowl. ;)

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Well...I don't mind the Bucs so much 'cause they whooped the hated-raiders..as for the lambs, they basically only play well on fake grass...Denver beat them last season on the "Real" stuff.  :)

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GO STEELERS! 34-whatever the ravens score was.

I wasn't able to watch the entire thing. So I am  not real clear on what the final score was, but my Steelers looked pretty awsome. Again, the secondary could have done a little less interferance, but a win is a win and I hope we make the needed adjustments.

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John, Tommy passed for 260 yards and STILL makes less than the punter! Your Steelers won 34-15 ;)

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Way to finally win one outdoors!

GO VIKINGS!

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YES!  I have always missed Memorial Stadium and the fact that they play in the Baggie Dome >:( REAL football should be played outdoors in the elements on REAL grass!

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YES!  I have always missed Memorial Stadium and the fact that they play in the Baggie Dome >:( REAL football should be played outdoors in the elements on REAL grass!
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Actually, the Vikings played at Metropolitan Stadium before it was torn down.  ;)
I agree that real football should be turf free. It's unfortunate how taxpayers spend over $70 million on a domed stadium, then we find out the turf causes more serious injuries than grass does. Add to that the mediocrity of the team stolen away from Baltimore, and the townsfolk just can't afford to keep or support another sports venue. The city just can't afford another outdoor or indoor stadium,  And IU's so-called Athletic Department team replaced their stadiums grass with artificial turf!!! :o ::) :P How dimwitted is that?

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That's right Indy!  I was thinking of the old Baltimore Colts home :D Anyway...I hope someone ELSE here comments on turf and it's non-necessity >:(  Go Colts & Broncos!

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Actually, the Vikings played at Metropolitan Stadium before it was torn down.  ;)
I agree that real football should be turf free. It's unfortunate how taxpayers spend over $70 million on a domed stadium, then we find out the turf causes more serious injuries than grass does. Add to that the mediocrity of the team stolen away from Baltimore, and the townsfolk just can't afford to keep or support another sports venue. The city just can't afford another outdoor or indoor stadium,  And IU's so-called Athletic Department team replaced their stadiums grass with artificial turf!!! :o ::) :P How dimwitted is that?

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OK I agree with the basic premise that football (and baseball too) should be played outdoors.  But as someone that lives in Texas, near Houston....I feel like I have to defend the REASONING behind domed stadiums to you guys since we were the ones that started them waaay back in the 60s with the Astrodome.

In Houston, the heat and humidity can be excruiating.  Especially the humidity.  If you're not careful with your outdoor activities here, you can literally collapse an die from heat exhaustion.  It can be October, but you'll feel like you're in a suana on some Houston nights.  Sometimes there are mosquitos around the size of your FIST.  Sometimes in Houston it's scortching sunny heat, then suddenly it can be torential downpours of rain and even more humidity. YOU'RE CRAZY if you think anyone here was going to sit in an outdoor stadium in THAT kind of weather.  They tried to put sunlights on the old Astrodome back in the 60s, but grass simply would not grow there, so "Astroturf" was invented.  Sheesh, even up in Dallas, they have the Cowboys play in a near domed stadium to escape the scathing Texas heat.  The humidity isn't anywhere near as bad in Dallas/Iriving as it is in Houston, but Texas Stadium is practically indoors with the exception of that little hole at the top.  (yeah I know, so God can watch the Cowboys)

But the old Astrodome is a relic from the 1960s, shutdown and just sitting there.  Today the Astros play in relatively brand new Minute Maid Park (formerly Enron Field, you know why it had to be renamed  ::)  ).  

And there is a new expansion football team in Houston called the Texans (since the old Oilers left for Nashville and became the Tennesse Titans) that play in the brand new Reliant Stadium.  The Texans are in their second year, but are off to a good start, 1-0 as of this writing after beating the Miami Dolphins last week.  Both of the new stadiums for baseball and football in Houston are "outdoors", but they have retractable roofs when the weather gets to be too much.

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OK I agree with the basic premise that football (and baseball too) should be played outdoors.

there is a new expansion football team in Houston called the Texans (since the old Oilers left for Nashville and became the Tennesse Titans) that play in the brand new Reliant Stadium.  The Texans are in their second year, but are off to a good start, 1-0 as of this writing after beating the Miami Dolphins last week.  Both of the new stadiums for baseball and football in Houston are "outdoors", but they have retractable roofs when the weather gets to be too much.

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Well, I'd like to see Minnesota build one instead of that crappy hefty-dome...and please tell me why the Cowboys have a HOLE in the roof ::)

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if you ask people in Dallas, or other Cowboys fans why it's there....like I said they'll say "So God can watch his favorite team".  ::)    

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In Denver they say If God Isn't A Bronco Fan Then Why Are Sunsets Orange....anyway
Denver 37
San Diego 13!  Next up: The Thugs from Oakland ::)

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Can you say 4-0? ;D

Indianapolis 55, New Orleans 21  ;D

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Good Luck to you Indy, we have to travel to Kansas City to play the Chiefs...F.U.K.C. T-shirts are popular around here :D

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we have to travel to Kansas City to play the Chiefs...F.U.K.C. T-shirts are popular around here :D
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Kansas City Chiefs 24, Denver Broncos 23.

I guess all of the t-shirts didn't work!!

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5 and 0, baby!!!!!

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Kansas City Chiefs 24, Denver Broncos 23.

I guess all of the t-shirts didn't work!!

5 and 0, baby!!!!!
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Congratulations...the better team won today.  See you in Denver later this season though ;)

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Read 'em and weep, Bucs fans ;D:

Indianapolis Colts 38,
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 35 OT

Colts come back from 35-14 with 4:15 left in the FOURTH Quarter, then win it on an almost botched FG in OT.
5-0. Happy Birthday Coach Tony Dungy!
Next up: The dreaded Carolina Panthers!
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A most hardy congats to you, Indy!

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A most hardy congats to you, Indy!
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No Problem Indy...and also better luck in thier next game against those pesky Chiefs in DENVER ;)

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AAAGGGHHH, Colts lost. >:(


I'm not sure which is worse, a blowout, or a loss in overtime after coming back and then losing by a stinking fieldgoal. :(
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I hate FG's in overtime.  I am also not happy about sudden-death overtime in football, particularly when wins are almost guaranteed by a coin flip.

They should use college football's overtime setup.  

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I hate FG's in overtime.  I am also not happy about sudden-death overtime in football, particularly when wins are almost guaranteed by a coin flip.

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Exactly!

NFL overtimes are, like you said, almost always determined by who wins the coin toss.  The only chance you have is a turnover or a freak-defensive stance.

I despise the whole BSC crap in college football, but I do love their overtime setup.  I agree it should be adopted by the NFL.

Sudden death in a game like football is just plain stupid..

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AAAGGGHHH, Colts lost. >:(


I'm not sure which is worse, a blowout, or a loss in overtime after coming back and then losing by a stinking fieldgoal. :(


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I hate FG's in overtime.  I am also not happy about sudden-death overtime in football, particularly when wins are almost guaranteed by a coin flip.

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In my opinion you have to play offense and defense. So what if there is a coin flip? I like the NFL setup in overtime.

Anyway, the Giants lost. They drove up and down the field the whole game and scored 6 points. They didn't do anything in the red zone.

The Jets killed the Bills sacking Drew Bledsoe 6 times. I hope the Jets can build off this win.They  have to win the next couple games to stay in the playoff hunt. Next up is Houston and then Philly. The Eagles-Jets should be a good game to watch. I wouldn't dismiss Houston: they did beat Miami this year. Are the Bills overrated anyway? They don't play with any fire. I saw them play the Eagles and they didn't look good in that game either.

I really don't like the Cowboys but Parcells is doing a great job with them.

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Thats not the point.  Whats sucks about NFL overtimes is that if the winner of the toss can manage to get 10-20 yards on a drive, then manage to boot a lucky long field goal attempt, the games over.

Whats good about college is the clock determine the game, not a lucky long field goal attempt.

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And it's based on the high school OT proceedures, so everyone can leave early and go drinking (the parents and other adults only).

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AND it just makes sense....put it in the hands of the TEAMS..not a Damn COIN!

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Kansas City Chiefs 40, Green Bay Packers 34 in OT!!!

6 and 0!!!!
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C'YA in Denver!
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C'YA in Denver!
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Well, you beat us in Denver last year so.... :-/ Just as long as we can win the division and beat the "Qeafs" I'll be happy ;)

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Well, you beat us in Denver last year so.... :-/ Just as long as we can win the division and beat the "Qeafs" I'll be happy ;)
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have you ever been to Minnesota in the dead of winter?  Ouch, major frostbite!  If they played outdoors the fans would freeze to death before the 2nd quarter! :D



Same goes for my team the Colts.  I love going to their games, but if I had to sit in an outdoor stadium in the middle of an Indiana winter, forget it! ;D  I'm a fan, but I'm not crazy....and then theres Chicago.  I think they should have used the money they used to renovations this year, and just added a roof on that place.  I went to a Bears game in the winter one time as a kid, and NEVER tried that again.  Its misery!

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have you ever been to Minnesota in the dead of winter?  Ouch, major frostbite!  If they played outdoors the fans would freeze to death before the 2nd quarter! :D



Same goes for my team the Colts.  I love going to their games, but if I had to sit in an outdoor stadium in the middle of an Indiana winter, forget it! ;D  I'm a fan, but I'm not crazy....and then theres Chicago.  I think they should have used the money they used to renovations this year, and just added a roof on that place.  I went to a Bears game in the winter one time as a kid, and NEVER tried that again.  Its misery!
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Okay but the Vikings and Colts used to play outdoors and Green Bay & Chicago still manage through the cold....Football should be an outdoor sport.....a solution would be the domed stadium that retracts...like in the heat of Phoenix....but NOT that idiotic Cowpie stadium in dallas with a hole in the roof ::)

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Okay but the Vikings and Colts used to play outdoors and Green Bay & Chicago still manage through the cold....Football should be an outdoor sport.....a solution would be the domed stadium that retracts...like in the heat of Phoenix....but NOT that idiotic Cowpie stadium in dallas with a hole in the roof ::)
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I guess it all comes down to what the fans want.  After all they do ultimately foot the bill.  And I, as a fan, would never go to a football game in a Midwest winter again as long as I live.  

But as far as the retractable roof, thats a great concept.  However, those designs are extremely expensive, and are not an option to all cities because of that.

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I guess it all comes down to what the fans want.  After all they do ultimately foot the bill.  And I, as a fan, would never go to a football game in a Midwest winter again as long as I live.  

But as far as the retractable roof, thats a great concept.  However, those designs are extremely expensive, and are not an option to all cities because of that.
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They could afford to buy the roof...except the cowpies....they were a hole-in-the-roof short

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But as far as the retractable roof, thats a great concept.  However, those designs are extremely expensive, and are not an option to all cities because of that.
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Mike Tice has done a bang up job with this team. Next up are the sleeping Giants.  


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Tice has done a good job. The Vikes have always had alot talent for a long time they just never have had real good chemistry on their team. Finally they have chemistry and the results are finally showing. What I like about Tice is he can relate to the young players like Randy Moss. In today's game if the head coach can't relate to the young players the young players will walk all over their head coach. Tice has a certain "coolness factor" about him and a certain passion about the game of football that the young players on that team love.

On the Vikings playing the Giants I like the Giants but they are playing bad right now. To score only 10 points against the Eagles when you have Ike Hilliard, Jeremy Shockey, Tiki Barber, and Armani Toomer is a mystery to me. The Giants have just looked stale for the past few Sundays.

My other team the Jets are looking alot better. They came back from 14 points down to defeat Houston. That shows heart and they never quit. Santana Moss is looking like a Pro Bowl Player the last 2 Sundays. Shaun Ellis is playing fantastic at Defensive End. The Running game is getting there with Curtis Martin and LaMont Jordan. The offensive line has gone alot better since the season has started. Lastly, the Jets could have lost that game. Houston Wide Reciever Andre Johnson on the last play of the game took his eye off the ball. If he hadn't taken his eye off the ball and if he caught it would have been the game winning touchdown.

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No problem resinchaser....They DO look great! Tonight I must root for the hated-raiders...to help Denver stay near the Qeafs :-/

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No problem resinchaser....They DO look great! Tonight I must root for the hated-raiders...to help Denver stay near the Qeafs :-/
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ok, I got to ask:

What is a "Qeaf"

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Personally, since the game all comes down to money and how much money the host city is willing to pony-up:

I don't see there being an Indianapolis Colts in the next 3 years.  Indy just doesn't have what the Colts are asking for, financially.

Unfortunatley. :-/

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Kansas City Chiefs 17, Oakland Raiders 10!!!!

7 and 0!!!!

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Maybe they can go un-beaten for the season and win the Super Bowl!  I hope if the Broncos don't then the Chiefs do....Miami is the ONLY team to go through a season without a loss...they had 17 straight wins...although the 49'rs AND Broncos won 18 straight over 2 seasons...the fact remains that Miami in 1972 had the weakrest schedule in the league so I hope if somebody breaks that record it will be someone from the AFC Best West :D

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I hope that your Colts do well too!  I just like the FACT that Denver won Back To Back Super Bowls and had a run of 10 straight to open the '98-'99 season AND they won 18 straight over 2 seasons....when was the last time KC made it to a Super Bowl much less win one!?  Nobody else in the AFC West has back to back titles.  We'll see...KC fans...talk ALL the crap you want when YOU have 2 Titles...back to back  ;)

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I hope that your Colts do well too!  I just like the FACT that Denver won Back To Back Super Bowls and had a run of 10 straight to open the '98-'99 season AND they won 18 straight over 2 seasons....when was the last time KC made it to a Super Bowl much less win one!?  Nobody else in the AFC West has back to back titles.  We'll see...KC fans...talk ALL the crap you want when YOU have 2 Titles...back to back  ;)
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It would be great if everyone won a Super Bowl in 2004, except the Cowboys, 49ers, Raiders, Steelers, and Packers. Just getting tired of those teams winning everything. But I'll be pulling for the Colts this year, because they may not get another chance.

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The Cowboys last won the Super Bowl what in 1996? The 49ers last won the Super Bowl in 1995 if I remember right. Packers last won in 1997 and the Raiders last won in 1983. So those teams don't win every year. lets see every year since 97:

98 Broncos
99 Broncos
00:Rams
01: Ravens
02: Patriots
03: Bucs

So in the last 6 super Bowls 4 different teams have won the Super Bowl Trophy. Not bad.

Go Jets!

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...and of course the Colts won again.  So all's good. :D
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'Twas a good day. :D

Colts and Bears both win.  Whats up with the Bears?  Did they just realise a couple weeks ago that the season has started? :D


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Who's the Bears quarterback now? Is Kordell Stewart still their quarterback? Also the Bears winning games I'm not shocked at. San Diego and Detroit are two of the worst teams in the NFL.

Well the Giants won the battle of New York beating the Jets in OT 31-28. It was a good game when the offenses of boh teams actually showed up for the game in the second half. Chad Pennington almost bought the Jets back to win the game. I just think the Giants were just the better team. Its always the same with the Giants: get a big lead, blow it, and then lose or win the win game. Next week: Giants play Falcons: Vick is back and the Falcons played Philly pretty close today. The Giants should win that game. Jets season is basically over still they should be able to beat Oakland this coming week but you never know. When the Jets come into town the Raiders seem to play well.

Indianapolis looks good this year. They could be the favorite in the AFC. The actually have a defense which they haven't had in a few years.

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Who's the Bears quarterback now? Is Kordell Stewart still their quarterback? Also the Bears winning games I'm not shocked at. San Diego and Detroit are two of the worst teams in the NFL.

Well the Giants won the battle of New York beating the Jets in OT 31-28. It was a good game when the offenses of boh teams actually showed up for the game in the second half. Chad Pennington almost bought the Jets back to win the game. I just think the Giants were just the better team. Its always the same with the Giants: get a big lead, blow it, and then lose or win the win game. Next week: Giants play Falcons: Vick is back and the Falcons played Philly pretty close today. The Giants should win that game. Jets season is basically over still they should be able to beat Oakland this coming week but you never know. When the Jets come into town the Raiders seem to play well.

Indianapolis looks good this year. They could be the favorite in the AFC. The actually have a defense which they haven't had in a few years.
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How about the new raiders slogan:

Just WHINE, Baby!
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Sorry Jessica (As I bow to kiss your feet) :D

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Sorry Jessica (As I bow to kiss your feet) :D
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LOL!

Even I have to admit that they're not doing great this season (what an understatement!). :)

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LOL!

Even I have to admit that they're not doing great this season (what an understatement!). :)
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You guys will get better once they fire the robotic coach...meanwhile seems ever since the loss to the qeafs my Broncos have been bad too...hopefully they can pull off another Monday night win tonight...man, those injuries have cost us :-/

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Great game by the Colts, Indy!!  Figures Griese would do better for a different team ::)  How about the new raiders slogan:

Just WHINE, Baby!
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That was pathetic the way the Broncos gave up that lead in the last minute. You gotta give the Patriots a lot of credit for both giving up the safety, then going for the game winning TD instead a field goal that would have forced OT. (Visions of Superbowl XXXIV). But sorry about the loss, Rock. :(

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Thanks, Indy  ;) Shanahan should've run Portis on the third down and 2 instead of throwing a pass...even if he hadn't made the first down the clock would've kept running ::) I'm usually against the bye weeks but in this case we need the time off....too many injuries!  I just hope Jake can come back in and avenge that crazy loss to the qeafs when they come to town.

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I cant believe Rob Johnson keeps on getting picked up by different teams.The only thing he ever did was come off the bench when he was with the Jaguars and threw 3 TD s.Then everyone thought he was a starting QB.......HE GOT LUCKY AND HAS SUCKED EVER SINCE.I was wondering if anyone thought about Jeff George I know hes a jerk but he can throw that ball.
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I agree with you totally about Rob Johnson.  I also used to like Jeff George but I think his time has passed....how old is he anyway??  I'm also one of the few Denver fans that supported Brian Greise...he showed guts in 2000 on a Monday Night game by rallying the Broncos against those hated-raiders..with a separated shoulder no less, but he just didn't fit in with our offense.  I think and hope he's found his home in Miami ;)

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I agree with you totally about Rob Johnson.  I also used to like Jeff George but I think his time has passed....how old is he anyway??  I'm also one of the few Denver fans that supported Brian Greise...he showed guts in 2000 on a Monday Night game by rallying the Broncos against those hated-raiders..with a separated shoulder no less, but he just didn't fit in with our offense.  I think and hope he's found his home in Miami ;)
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Kansas City Chiefs 41, Cleveland Browns 20!!!!

9 and 0!!!!


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Congrats!  Just 4 more wins to match the '98 Broncos start ;)

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Looking at this game it could be like a 30-28 game. Jets-Colts games are usually decided in the last 5 minutes of the game. Indy is team the Jets have always struggled with for some reason. The Jets have never matched up well against them. Besides the Jets routing the Colts in last years playoff's indy has always had their number it seems like. 3 teams the Jets always struggle with: Raiders, Steelers, and the Colts. Always have good luck against the Dolphins, Bills, and Bengals. The Jets usually split the season series with the Patriots.

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Looking at this game it could be like a 30-28 game. Jets-Colts games are usually decided in the last 5 minutes of the game. Indy is team the Jets have always struggled with for some reason. The Jets have never matched up well against them. Besides the Jets routing the Colts in last years playoff's indy has always had their number it seems like. 3 teams the Jets always struggle with: Raiders, Steelers, and the Colts. Always have good luck against the Dolphins, Bills, and Bengals. The Jets usually split the season series with the Patriots.
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And we owe them the same butt kicking they gave us in the playoffs last year. The 41-0 washout still leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth, as I'm sure it does the mouths of Colts fans everywhere. :P

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Kinda like all us Denver fans here waiting for the qeafs to come to Mile High so we can avenge the ONE point loss earlier this season....which we didn't deserve to win anyway...we couldn't tackle that guy...awesome return...they earned the win...but I can't wait to welcome them to OUR house ;)

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http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:11QdvrbEFuoC:www.nflfanstore.com/chiefs/chiefsfl.jpg qeafs MAULED by Bengals  :o
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I can't believe they lost to the Bengals. The Chiefs are way better than the Bengals.

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I can't believe they lost to the Bengals. The Chiefs are way better than the Bengals.
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Me neither but since my Broncos are in the same division as the qeafs, I love it! Shannon Sharpe just became the all-time touchdown leader for tight ends!!  Broncos romping over the Chargers 34-0!!

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I am sad that they lost but at least they didn't lose to the ponies of Denver!!!

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I am sad that they lost but at least they didn't lose to the ponies of Denver!!!
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They are still having a great season but remember...you STILL have one more game at our house...and beware...the Pony Express might just win this time.....but I am NOT throwing out a prediction like the guy for the Bengals did ;)

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About the Giants whats to say about them. They drive all up and down the field and never score anything. The red zone offense is bad. I think Jim Fassel might be fired. He's not a bad coach but the Giants are not playing with any fire or any sense of urgency.


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And final score:
Indianapolis Colts 17, Buffalo Bills 14 ;D

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And the Giants always seem to win their last games just to save Fassel his job. I hope the Maras don't fall for that ploy again.

And good luck to the Colts in beating the Ills in Buffalo. ;D

And final score:
Indianapolis Colts 17, Buffalo Bills 14 ;D
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About the Giants its time to go in a different diirection now. Fassel has been there for 7 years now.

In regards to the Colts what are they still in the AFC East? After all they have played the Doplhins, Bills, Jets, and now I hear they are playing the Patriots next week?

Lastly, that Jets-Jaguars game today was one of the ugliest games I have ever seen. It was pretty boring to watch. At least the Jets won though. I think Jets play Tennesee next. At least that game will be at Giants Stadium and not at Tennesee.

I was watching the Raiders-Chiefs al little bit today. It was a pretty good played game. It looks like Rick Mirer has found a home with the Raiders. Mirer has been with the Seahawks, Bears, Jets, and now the Raiders. After 11 years in the NFL has he finally found an offensive system that fits his playing style.

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Thanks, RockandRollFan. I hope they finally break that dreaded New England jinx and smoke those Patsies in the Dome. The last three or four games we palyed with them were pretty much blowouts in their favor. Let's hope Brady finally gets the licking he deserves. ;D

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Anytime, Indy  :) Now I hope My beloved Broncos can beat Dopeland right into thier Crackhole :o

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Thanks, RockandRollFan. I hope they finally break that dreaded New England jinx and smoke those Patsies in the Dome. The last three or four games we palyed with them were pretty much blowouts in their favor. Let's hope Brady finally gets the licking he deserves. ;D

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Well the curse is still there for Indy when they play New England. I don't know why. I think Bellicheck always had good game plans in playing against the Colts.

My Giants didn't show up today. No reason to even comment about their game against the Bills. If they can get him here I want Romeo Cronnel to be the next head coach for the Giants. Either Romeo or Tom Coughlin.

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Well the curse is still there for Indy when they play New England. I don't know why. I think Bellicheck always had good game plans in playing against the Colts.

My Giants didn't show up today. No reason to even comment about their game against the Bills. If they can get him here I want Romeo Cronnel to be the next head coach for the Giants. Either Romeo or Tom Coughlin.
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I'd like to see them playing back OUTSIDE..they used to be better there, IMO :-/

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Sorry about your Colts yesterday Indy....did you see the breakdown on ESPN....on the 1st three downs they had room if James had bounced to the outside :-/ Oh well, easy for us to see when we're looking back.  Good luck next week though.  AND I loved Denver beating the raiders.  Did you see all the idiots in the crackhole? One guy had the effagy of a Bronco and was chomping at his neck.  Too bad his team LOST!  Can you say SWEEP? Sure you can :D
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Hmmmm?Teams wishing they kept their old coach?How about the Buccaneers Super Bowl Champs to Chumps and they have the same team they did last year?How about the 49ers at least they made the playoffs last year with Mariucci!Keyshawn Johnson I hope you are reading this...YOU ARE A SELFISH PUNK!I probably dont even make 1% of what you make but at least I can work with others and do my job!I dont whine and just try to make the best of bad situations.I hope no team picks you up!Geeez!If I had the oppurtunity to play pro I would do it for 100,000 bucks a year...and thats no joke.I WOULD JUST DO WHAT IM TOLD!Remember all the work it took just to get in the NFL.....AND YOU WANT TO THROW IT AWAY FOR WHAT?YOUR WORTHLESS PRIDE. ???
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Oh lay off Keyshawn already. I wish we still had him here in New York. Everybody is trashing the guy. With the bucaneers the defense couldn't hold 4th quarter leads.Keyshawn doesn't play defense. If I were to pick players I would have Keyshawn on my team no doubt. The Jets might go after him in the offseason. I'll agree Keyshawn shouldn't have shown up John Gruden. Keyshawn made a mistake in showing up Gruden. He shouldn't done it. I hope Keyshawn learned something though.

One of the few times I can talk about the Jets this year in a real positive manner. I didn't see the game but I heard they played a pretty good game against the Titans. Pennington is the man. Team are doubling and tripling Santana Moss which leaves opportunities for the other Jet receivers to make big plays. I hope the Jets beat the Patriots and The Dolphins down the stretch. First thing is first: beat the Bills this week. Last time the Jets beat the Bills the Jets defensive lineman were in the Bills backfield all day.

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Oh lay off Keyshawn already. I wish we still had him here in New York. Everybody is trashing the guy. With the bucaneers the defense couldn't hold 4th quarter leads.Keyshawn doesn't play defense. If I were to pick players I would have Keyshawn on my team no doubt. The Jets might go after him in the offseason. I'll agree Keyshawn shouldn't have shown up John Gruden. Keyshawn made a mistake in showing up Gruden. He shouldn't done it. I hope Keyshawn learned something though.

One of the few times I can talk about the Jets this year in a real positive manner. I didn't see the game but I heard they played a pretty good game against the Titans. Pennington is the man. Team are doubling and tripling Santana Moss which leaves opportunities for the other Jet receivers to make big plays. I hope the Jets beat the Patriots and The Dolphins down the stretch. First thing is first: beat the Bills this week. Last time the Jets beat the Bills the Jets defensive lineman were in the Bills backfield all day.

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And now poor baby Eddie kennison is trying to create some locker room stuff with his anti-Shanahan comments....what a crybaby :'(...first he QUITS the Broncos then turns around and asks to come back. Get OVER it eddie  >:(

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Oh lay off Keyshawn already. I wish we still had him here in New York. Everybody is trashing the guy. With the bucaneers the defense couldn't hold 4th quarter leads.Keyshawn doesn't play defense. If I were to pick players I would have Keyshawn on my team no doubt. The Jets might go after him in the offseason. I'll agree Keyshawn shouldn't have shown up John Gruden. Keyshawn made a mistake in showing up Gruden. He shouldn't done it. I hope Keyshawn learned something though.

One of the few times I can talk about the Jets this year in a real positive manner. I didn't see the game but I heard they played a pretty good game against the Titans. Pennington is the man. Team are doubling and tripling Santana Moss which leaves opportunities for the other Jet receivers to make big plays. I hope the Jets beat the Patriots and The Dolphins down the stretch. First thing is first: beat the Bills this week. Last time the Jets beat the Bills the Jets defensive lineman were in the Bills backfield all day.

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And now poor baby Eddie kennison is trying to create some locker room stuff with his anti-Shanahan comments....what a crybaby :'(...first he QUITS the Broncos then turns around and asks to come back. Get OVER it eddie  >:(
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Sorry, Tv, but when Keyshawn opens his mouth, he is fair game. And apparently your Jets still need him because Santana Moss can't do it by himself.
And he still hasn't apologized to Marvin Harrison for comments made during the colts-Bucs Monday Night Game. That's okay. Key will have plenty of time to ponder when Marv and the Colts are in the playoffs, and he is sitting by his television watching them.

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I understand Keyshawn talks alot. He can talk just as long as he performs well. Your right Santana can't do it by himself. The Jets have 2 choices: Terell Owens or Keyshawn Johnson for the 04 season. They both talk alot but whoever the Jets get as long as they perform thats all care about. Jets Coach Herman Edwards had a good relationship  with Keyshawn when Herman was the defensive back coach for the Bucs back in the 2000 season before Herman left the Bucs to become head coach with the Jets. I understand Keyshawn and Herman still talk on occasion.

I don't know what Keyshawn said to Marvin Harrison. I never even heard anything about it until 2 weeks ago.

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If John Elway couldn't stand Mike Shanahan, as Eddie Kennison claims he did, then how did he lead the Broncos to 2 Super Bowl titles. And Kennison wasn't even around that I know of that would make him an expert on player-coach relationships. He should either put up of shut up. But like Keyshawn, they're bout as taciturn as a woman with a cellphone. ::)

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I don't understand the whole issue with Eddie Kennison. It just sounds like he was letting off steam.

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I don't understand the whole issue with Eddie Kennison. It just sounds like he was letting off steam.
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Or having a melt-down like the late Derrick Thomas had on a Monday Night game a few years ago against Denver....I just hope Denver leaves the qeafs "Steamed" after todays game :-/

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TEXT GO COWBOYS!
I have to go with the Home Team....I used to be a 49ers fan but I had to change.

I missed most of the season because of school, but now I can enjoy the better games!!!

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You were nice to me in the other thread so I won't tell you I'm rooting for the Eagles today...oops :-X ;D

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Final score:
Indianapolis Colts 29, Tennessee Titans 27 ;D ;D ;D

Yeah!!!! This will shut up some of the local critics at least briefly.
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I've never been a critic of the Colts...except when they snuck out of Baltimore :-/ Congrats to you, IndyGent!  Now just help me send some good vibes to Denver so the Broncos can shut Kennison and the qeafs up ;)

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I've never been a critic of the Colts...except when they snuck out of Baltimore :-/ Congrats to you, IndyGent!  Now just help me send some good vibes to Denver so the Broncos can shut Kennison and the qeafs up ;)
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I was bothered by that too. But Baltimore has the Ravens, which Art Modell stole out of Cleveland. Then the Browns returned as an expansion franchise. I believe these fans should get over their losses, since L.A. did, and Indy might not get another NFL team after they move out. I don't believe building a new stadium in Indy is an option for the fans, unfortunately. :(
Thanks for the congrats, Rock n Roll Fan, and good luck Broncos. :)

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Ah but remember, Cleveland was stolen twice..when the Rams went to L.A. and tomorrow the Rams play at Cleveland...I certainly hope your Colts stay put, Indy.
I also wouldn't want the Colts to go back to Baltimore anymore since it's now occupied by raiders-east :P  

Denver leads the qeafs 38-21 with 10 minutes left...I wonder if I should break out my F.U.K.C. shirt soon :D

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Final Score:
Atlanta Falcons 7, Indianapolis Colts 38 ;D

They next play R 'n' R Fan's Broncos, who should be spanking the Browns right now. How's about an update, Mark? ;)
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He's probably cursing ;D

10-10 at the half.

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He's probably cursing ;D

10-10 at the half.
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I feel bad for Dan Reeves he didnt deserve to get fired.He got the Falcons to the play-offs last year..well actually Vick did.Then Vick gets hurt and it was like it was Reeves fault.Wade Philips?When he was coaching the Bills THEY SUCKED!
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I think the reason why Dan Reeves got fired was because even though Vick was injured for most of the season Reeves has say in most of the personal decisions that the Falcons make. Your right Wade Philips is not a head coach. He's a decent defensive coordinator though.

I think all those teams that passed up Marvin Lewis as a head coach now feel bad. This guy is going to be a good coach. The way he turned the Bengals has been unbelieveable.

Lastly, how the heck did the Ravens lose to the Raiders yesterday?

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I think the reason why Dan Reeves got fired was because even though Vick was injured for most of the season Reeves has say in most of the personal decisions that the Falcons make. Your right Wade Philips is not a head coach. He's a decent defensive coordinator though.

I think all those teams that passed up Marvin Lewis as a head coach now feel bad. This guy is going to be a good coach. The way he turned the Bengals has been unbelieveable.

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And there are no capable NFL assistants that could turn around a losing team. Lewis was probably the last. So someone like Pittsburgh might keep there old coach (Bill Cowher, since he is a native of Pittsburgh). While Atlanta and any others that do fire the coach will test the college market for a Nick Saban or Bob Stoops.

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THE NFL NEEDS TO LIGHTEN UP!THEY FINE CHAD JOHNSON FOR HOLDING UP HIS"NFL,PLEASE DONT FINE ME"SIGN!This has to be a record for NFL fines for a season.Even though we caught Saddam Hussein....there is a new dictatorship on the rise...the NFL.
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But, Child, the NFL needed to fine Joe Horn about a quarter million for his cellphone ad he taped during the game with the Giants. There are some things that can't be tolerated, or who knows what these clowns will do next.  

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Im just saying they need to really think about things before giving out fines.They are "fine happy" when it comes to some borderline illegal hits....it is a contact sport you know. ::)

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Hey Indy, I wish your Colts the best of luck on Sunday against my Broncos....sincerely...and if you beat us I hope we can knock off Green Bay and secure a playoff spot :)Even if Denver misses the playoffs I can take comfort that we swept the Raiders and split with those awful Qeafs ::)
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I don't mind giving fines to illegal hits as long as they can prove that these might cause career-threatening injuries.

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Final score:
Broncos 31, Colts 17.  >:(

However, a begrudging congratulations to RocknRoll's Broncos. They deserved this game.  :-/ Now I hope they can beat the Pack.

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There were a few questionable calls and non-calls but who knows if the outcome would have been different :-/ Anyway, Denver may end up right back in the RCA Dome soon for a rematch....BUT....I sure would LOVE the chance to repeat what Denver did to the Qeafs in '97...when we were also the wild-card and the qeafs won the West...go to thier house and beat them :D  I'm glad Denver won last night but sad it was against a true good sport....thanks Indy ;)

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I shouldn't have predicted the Colts to go the super Bowl. Whenever I do that they they lose their next game as it seems. They lost Jacksonville the first time I wrote on these boards that I thought the Colts were going to the Super Bowl. I wrote the same thing a few days and the same thing happened: the Colts lost a game right after I wrote my prediction again. I'm  not writing anymore predictions for the Colts going to the Super Bowl because they'll probably lose their next game yet again.
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Brett Favre--

15-17 passing, 311 yds, 4 TDs

I know I'm supposed to root for the Raiders, but they're out of the playoffs, and how can you NOT root for Favre?  :)
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I found it very heart warming to see the fans in the Black Hole showing some kindness....much more than I can say for those kansas city qeaf fans ;)

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I found it very heart warming to see the fans in the Black Hole showing some kindness....much more than I can say for those kansas shitty city qeaf fans ;)
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I found it very heart warming to see the fans in the Black Hole showing some kindness....much more than I can say for those kansas shitty city qeaf fans ;)
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Dude, are you obcessed with the Chiefs or something? You mention them almost as much as you do the trick ponies Broncos.  ::)

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Cheifs yes. Panthers no. :p with the running back healthy and the wide receiver actually catching the balls thrown to him, the panthers aren't an early knockout. and with the Cowboys coming here, Panthers can win.

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It's official. The Vikings are the most pathetic story of 2003 >:(

They allowed a fourth quarter two touchdown comeback to THE FREAKIN CARDS!!!

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Which means the Pack is in!  :D

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Dude, are you obcessed with the Chiefs or something? You mention them almost as much as you do the trick ponies Broncos.  ::)
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YES!  I AM...my nephew and I have gone round and round all season...to him bragging about the 1 point win they earned in K.C. through the crap talking afterwards by him....then the game where Denver demolished then at Mile High he suddenly has  :-X to say....as soon as they win 2 straight Super Bowls and run off 18 straight victories (No Trick Ponies at all) then he can talk ALL he wants!  Anyway...I'm sorry to have bothered you and will just keep this between my nephew and myself...he's not on the boards anyway....I was glad to see Brett Favre and GB win a spot today even though it was at my 2nd string Broncos.  Brett is a real class-act :D

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Thanks, RnRf!:) And sorry about the disaster in Green Bay. I hope you guy can recover---next year! ;)

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Thanks Indy.... ;D

WOW!  Eric Dickerson keeps the all-time record of 2,105 set in the great year of 1984 for at least another season....Lewis comes up short but does pass Barry Sanders and Terrell Davis :-/  Congrats to Mr. Lewis on a fine season though :)

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go! panthers!!! am i the only one who seems to be rooting for them?  :'(
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Being from NC, I GOTTA be a fan of the Panthers. So, to answer your question, no. :D

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go! panthers!!! am i the only one who seems to be rooting for them?  :'(
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I like the Panthers!  I SO wanted them and Jacksonville to play each other in the Super Bowl...it could've been the "Expansion Bowl" but the cowboys ruined it ::)

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Well then, if you guys beat the cowboys I like you even MORE!

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I was glad to finally see the Seahawks go to the playoffs, becuase of all that Mike Holmgren's been through (even though I also wanted the Vikings to go). I hope they beat the Packers Saturday, although the Brett Favre story is also inspiring. Definitely don't want Dallas to win. And if our Colts lose Sunday, then I'll root for New England, maybe Dnever. But I hope it doesn't come to that. ;D
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Maybe huh ;D

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Just as I predicted Steve Spurrier quit.HE NEEDS TO GO BAC TO COLLEGE!The Redskins owner has no clue about football and cant bring in anybody good for the team.I am surprised that Miami kept Dave Wannstedt... he cant coach!Hes lucky he has decent players!I feel bad for Dick Juaron he brought back the Bears a few years ago but hes gone now!This is just one of those time where the coach had no team to work with.They made no effort to get good players...... Kordell Stewart?
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Ok lets start with the Redskins Dan Snyder he's like a poor man's George Steinbrenner of the NFL. At least Steinbrenner has a few championship rings where as Dan Snyder has none. The Redskins didn't have an offensive line this year thus allowing QB Patrick Ramsey to get injured late in the season with all the beatings he took from opposing teams Defense's.

As far as the Bears are concerned Bears management should be thankful they finished 7-9. On paper that is a 4-12 team. They got 3 more wins than they should have. Juaron should have never been fired.

Finally, I'll address the Jets: 1) Get rid of the offensive coordinator. Sign Keyshawn Johnson and get Chris McAllister from the Ravens. The Jets lost too many close games this year(7 games they lost by 7 points or less.) The defensive secondary needs a total overhaul. Signing McAllister would be a good addition to the team for the Jets.

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I think you're wrong about Dick Jauron. He should have been fired last year. Bill Cowher should have been fired, too. But with that Alzheimer guy Dan Rooney and the blind Pittsburgh faithful giving praise to its native son, it looks like Cowher will be head man until 2010 at least. They say he is gone by next year of the Steelers suffer another disappointment, but they only need to improve 1 game to extend his contract.
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I agree Cohwer should have been fired. He's been there since 1992 or 1993? I think it was time for him to go. The Steelers went went 6-10 this year. I don't think a 7-9 record will save Cohwer's job.

As for the Bears where is the talent? You have to give the head coach something to work with. These are not the Bear teams of the mid 80's/early 90's period.

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As for the Bears where is the talent? You have to give the head coach something to work with. These are not the Bear teams of the mid 80's/early 90's period.
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Just as I predicted Steve Spurrier quit.HE NEEDS TO GO BAC TO COLLEGE!The Redskins owner has no clue about football and cant bring in anybody good for the team.I am surprised that Miami kept Dave Wannstedt... he cant coach!Hes lucky he has decent players!I feel bad for Dick Juaron he brought back the Bears a few years ago but hes gone now!This is just one of those time where the coach had no team to work with.They made no effort to get good players...... Kordell Stewart?
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::)The REDSKINS lost a darn good coach when Joe Gibbs bailed. Guess who he is "coaching" now-two of the best drivers in NASCAR Nextel Cup-Tony Stewart and Bobby Labonte!