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Subject: The battle of the computers...where do you stand?
OK, there's been a battle between Mac's and PC's going on for years, so which side are you on?
(in case you don't know what I am referring to: Mac refers to Macintosh/Apple brand computers and PC refers to IBM compatible computers such as HP, Compaq, Dell, IBM, Microsoft, Tandy etc. So basically unless your computer says Mac or Apple on it, you have a PC. If that makes any sense ???)
Me personally, I am a PC user. The only time I have used Mac/Apple computers was when they were in my grade school eons ago, and then just a few days ago at a buddy's house. And I think they are as screwy today as they were when I was in grade school n the early 80s! I think the biggest advantage of using PC's is they are virtually compatible with everything out there, whereas Mac's/Apples are very limited as to what they will work with.
What side are you one?
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
PC's...Mac's suck.
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
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I think the biggest advantage of using PC's is they are virtually compatible with everything out there, whereas Mac's/Apples are very limited as to what they will work with.
What side are you one?
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The biggest problem with Mac's is that everything is propretary. You can not go and buy hardware from just anyone, it has to be Apple and they charge double the price. The macs have much better processors than what Intel makes, and they are well suited for graphics work. The software on a mac is the same as what is on a PC, minus some games.
I use a PC 99% of the time. About 75% of the time it is working with a Windows box, the rest of the time it is tinkering with Debian.
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
Quoting:The biggest problem with Mac's is that everything is propretary. You can not go and buy hardware from just anyone, it has to be Apple and they charge double the price. End Quote
Exactly.
I actually considered buying my first Mac a few years ago until the salesman started telling me about how its not very easy to have them serviced because of the limited locations that do that. Not to mention the over-pricing of them.
But like you said, they are known for their excellent graphics for gaming and stuff ike that. But if you are like me, I never do that stuff on my computer anyway, so if thats the only benefit of buying a Mac, then its just not worth it. (in my opinion)
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
PC or 2 or 3 or...... ;D Sometimes way back half a PC LOL
I did for a short time have a Mac too but gave it to my neice.Screen too small,and I dont play many games(just poker online)How do Univacs rate??LOL :P
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How do Univacs rate??LOL :P
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Actually, I think UNIVACS probably got a better rating than the new Mac's. ;D
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
I'll take my trusty ol' Dell Dimension every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Admittedly, I've never used a Mac, but compatibility issues are an instant turn-off. The good I've heard about Macs are their stability. Crashing is a built-in feature for Windows 98 SE...umm, I think it's found in accessories and runs in the background. :P
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
In college, I had to take a computer class ("Computers for classroom use). The teacher swore by Macs. So I created a lesson on the Mac. Now, I can use the thing because we have a Dell. The place were I volunteer has a Mac (only because one guy swares by it also) and I can't figure the thing out. So I don't use it. I usually use this one-print out what I need and then bring it in. Or I just have someone print out what I need in the other computer.
Cat
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
I've only ever used PCs, but this topic reminds me of a job skills course I did several years ago. I signed up for a DT Publishing course and the fellow who taught the course was a staunch PC user. Not only that, but he taught Ventura. Which was fine in a classroom situation. Unfortunately when we finished the course and went out looking for work in the DT Publishing area, we quickly found out that
a) most DT Publishing is done on Macs, and
b) no one uses Ventura anymore.
So the whole course was a complete waste.
:)
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
I vote PC.
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
I dunno, Mac has always been much more stable software. My mate used to have a Mac (i think he still does) and in the whole time he had it i only saw it crash once. Mine (PC) crashes on a daily basis.
But the other side of this is compatibility, he had to send away for software cos shops locally didn't stock Mac stuff and of course PC software wouldn't work on it. Even though i think it's fairly safe to say that Windows is an inferior product it's still won out against Mac. Although i think MacOS is far too garish and user-friendly (if it's possible to be too user-friendly :-/ ).
If i could actually be bothered making the effort with Operating Systems etc., i'd have a PC with Lynux on it and maybe X-Windows. But i can't, so i'm stuck with buggy WinME. :(
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
Apple had such a strong market position in the 80's when one thinks about it. All public schools I ever went to had Apple IIe's and IIgs's. Mac's came out in the late 80's when I was in high school, and the schools purchased them. Since we all were familaiar with Apples's from school, wouldn't Apple think we wanted to buy thier product?
But then we went to the Apple store and saw the $3,000 price tag on the Apple. The software section was kinda small. And the salesperson was pushy. So I went to a PC computer store where they had PC's for a third of the cost, a whole lot bigger software section, and a salesperson who was smart. Apple had it all set in there favor for people to buy their computer, and they blew it with high prices, a closed system where you could not buy memory or upgrades from anyone else and Apple overcharged by multiples.
And now what is microsoft doing? They are giving away free PC's to schools that agree to use Windows and teach Windows. Smart on Microsofts part, but we are getting stuck with an OS which is not that stable or secure. I bet MS will not make the same mistakes Apple did.
Oh well, Apple is a better product, but I have been using PC's now for 15+ years. And Linux too on PC's...
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
We had Acorn computers in our school :-/ The only thing i remember us using them for was to play AirWolf (i think that's what it was called) with it's impressive isometric graphics :D
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
PC. the macs i used crashed constantly. they froze while saving, and they were only a year old. now, these were school macs, but the school PC's i've used were much more reliable. and they were older than the mac's too...
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
My Hewlett-Packerd has never crashed once (although a few programs have). The lamo IMACS at my school froze and crashed at a regular basis. Some of these computers are only one year old.
http://www.macsuck.com
Subject: Re: The battle of the computers...where do you sta
Speaking as a programmer, Macs were always way, way technically superior - the PC was (and is) a hotch-potch of jammed-together bits which is a programming minefield and a nightmare of memory and interrupt management, crippled by having to maintain backwards compatibility with the pile of crud that is MS-DOS.
But... it was possible in DOS to write little techie utilities which didn't need to know about window handling in order to run: it was much easier to get started programming in DOS rather than MacOS, so you got lots of free and shareware utilities coming out for the PC, which never saw light of day on the Mac.
As often happens (especially since MS entered the fray), it was the technically inferior product which won out, in this case because of IBM's open licensing policy compared to Apple's refusal to let third-parties build Macs - things might have worked out very differently if Apple had let people build Macs under license.
Phil
PS One of these days, I'm going to find time to get Linux installed...