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Conservatives have FOX news. The moderates have CNN. People in between Conservative and moderate have MSNBC. Boring individuals have CSPAN (though I thoroughly enjoyed watching Iraq protests on it).

What does the left have? We have jack squat. Why is this? There are plenty of Left minded people in this country. Why don't we have our very own anti-FOX?

I think the reason is this: The left is too open minded. I don't think we would be comfortable with a news program that is one sided. We would end up protesting our own network for not showing all sides of an issue.

Man, it's tough being a leftist. Comments?
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You leftist just can't stand something that's fair & Ballanced like Fox News.  Fox news is not one sided at all, it shows both sides.  Your just so biased you can't even take a fair news channel.  It is too funny.

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I don't think I can stand reading another FOX news article. It's too painful. You'll have to work with this rather minor article.
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why?  Becuase you don't agree with it?

Its like De Ja Vu right now, becuase I had this same arument the other night from someone on here, only the roles were reversed.


Before FOX News came along, there wasn't the big debate about "media bias" and etc etc.  Everyone just took the other news networks for granted and as if they were the only means of information.  But when FOX News presents the side of the media that isn't filled with typical liberal "gloom and doom" and "death and dispair" aspect of the world(eh hem see NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC), the liberals are suddenly up in arms protesting all the sudden.  I mean, God forbid they present a ray of hope during the war right?


CNN execs, ABC execs. among others, have recently admitted to altering the "news" to fit their personal judgemtn and fellings(i.e. bias), even Peter Jenings' assistant admitted that he would change the script to fit his personal feeling on the subject.  So why is FOX News condemned?  Why is FOX News being singled out?  They present a perspective of the news that wasn't presented up until their debut a few years ago.

I for one, call it refreshing. :)

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Fair and balanced? http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92629,00.html

Just grabbed this article. Not ultra conservative, but take note of a few things.

There are 8 quotes from 4 Republicans, supporting their point of view. There is one quote from the spokesperson of a Democratic leader, that was one sentence long, that explained the Democrat position.

The entire article is told from a Republican perspective. It points out all the great things the Republican proposal will do and how screwed up the Democrats are for wanting to foul everything up.

I don't think I can stand reading another FOX news article. It's too painful. You'll have to work with this rather minor article.
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I just read the article, it seemed fair to me.  It talked about a republican proposal, and the pros and cons the Republicans face if the proposal becomes law.

Here is who was quoted:

Bill Frist (R)
Don Ritchie, associate Senate historian, (no political alignment given, quoted twice)
Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.)
Sean Rushton (R) (quoted twice)
Frist spokesman Nick Smith (R)
spokesman Joe Trahern(D)

So in an article that explains a republican proposal we have 3 republicans (Only 2 if you count Frist and his spokesman as one), 2 democrates, and 1 we don't know.  Sounds pretty fair.  You are so blinded by the left, you wouldn't know a fair article if it was right in front of you.

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Like I said in my earlier post, before FOX News came around people just took news as it was spoonfed to them, no questions asked.

But when FOX News presented a different perspective, Oh My God, its those "evil Republicans" at it again. ::)

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there are pleantly of leftist newsletters, magazines and the such....plus, thats not including the major metworks CBS, NBC and ABC....those are all liberal based

so by making a liberal slanted news station, you are only going ot give one side of the news...the side that you like.....
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I agree.  

Ever read Salon.com or subscribe to "The Nation"?  Geesh.  If they were any more left they would fall off the scale into oblivion.  And thats not to mention the regular networks as you mentioned.


Those who want to shut down FOX News only want to create a networking they personally agree with, which happens to be the opposite of FOX News.  

Hypocracy anyone? ::)

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Conservatives have FOX news. The moderates have CNN. People in between Conservative and moderate have MSNBC. Boring individuals have CSPAN (though I thoroughly enjoyed watching Iraq protests on it).

What does the left have? We have jack squat. Why is this? There are plenty of Left minded people in this country. Why don't we have our very own anti-FOX?

I think the reason is this: The left is too open minded. I don't think we would be comfortable with a news program that is one sided. We would end up protesting our own network for not showing all sides of an issue.

Man, it's tough being a leftist. Comments?
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Hey John, have you heard about AnShell Media?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/17/politics/main540903.shtml

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Like I said in my earlier post, before FOX News came around people just took news as it was spoonfed to them, no questions asked.

But when FOX News presented a different perspective, Oh My God, its those "evil Republicans" at it again. ::)


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I'm not sure why you put "evil Republicans" in quotes.  No one else used that term.  But lets set the record straight.  There is ONE monthly left news magazine - Monthly Review, and TWO left quarterly academic journal - Science & Society, and Latin American Perspectives - published in this country.  There are some liberal, left leaning ones, but these are the only truly "left" ones.  There are NO left dailies and NO left electronic outlets.  

There are certainly locval leftist, or highly critical local outlets, and web sites.  Maybe I'll start one. ;D

As far as I am concerned, what is on the air waves is all from the liberal/conservative paradigm and all biased.  Not that a leftist slant wouldn't be.  It would just make more sense.

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CNN execs, ABC execs. among others, have recently admitted to altering the "news" to fit their personal judgemtn and fellings(i.e. bias), even Peter Jenings' assistant admitted that he would change the script to fit his personal feeling on the subject.  

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Do you have a link to this? I would like to read it.

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there are pleantly of leftist newsletters, magazines and the such....plus, thats not including the major metworks CBS, NBC and ABC....those are all liberal based

so by making a liberal slanted news station, you are only going ot give one side of the news...the side that you like.....
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To equate CBS, NBC, or ABC with "the left" is absolutely rediculous, and indicates that your version of the political spectrum is VERY LIMITED.  As I asserted in another thread, the "liberal" and "conservative" paradigm are essentially the same.  There is NO left analysis in ANY of our news outlets, especially the broadcast media.  No Communist party, no Socialist party, no Anarchist media outlet, and this is the land that values the free exchange of ideas?  This board has much more diversity than the broadcast media, you have moi. Thank you very much  ;D

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I think some people are confusing 'liberal' with 'leftist' here :-/
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You got that right (or left)  ;)

Here's a link you might enjoy, Doonsbury

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/uclickcomics/cx_db_uc/latest

Enjoy quickly!

To late, but this one is funny too.

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Here's a link you might enjoy, Doonsbury
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LOL  ;D
I don't watch Fox news myself but it's just as funny inserting one of many examples of British media

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I'm not political much and perhaps naive but what I don't understand is why do people have to label their beliefs as 'left-ists','liberal' or 'right-ists'?

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It started with the First Republic of France back in 1792. Parliment was set up where the conservitives were on the right side of the room and the more liberal were on the left. Thus, you have the political terms left and right.



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It started with the First Republic of France back in 1792. Parliment was set up where the conservitives were on the right side of the room and the more liberal were on the left. Thus, you have the political terms left and right.



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yes, beleive it or not, the terms for right and left wing originated in France.....dang those girondists and Jacobeans!  

lol....anyway, thats where the right/left thing started...political parties themselves were much earlier....

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Hell yeah!  Go screwball!

Leftists wouldn't need their own news show, because their protesting takes up so much of the news' time anyway.  It's all hippies protesting against this and hippies protesting against that.

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Yes, and hippies protesting agains toi othe darn thing that you figure has no effect on you.  But then, at 15, what DOES have an effect on you?  I'm not trying to be nasty or sarcastic.  Enjoy your youth - you only get it once - but politics IS important, and TO YOU.  It might make the difference between as new prom dress or a used one (big market around here for used prom dresses, wedding dresses too - something old?).  I don't want to preach, but world and national affairs have a direct impact on your life.  You might want to be less dismissive, therefore, of "hippie protests".