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Subject: Time to "Face the Music"?
The RIAA will begin "evidence gathering" procedures against people who illegally share music and movies online beginning Thursday. Normally, I wouldn't give a hoot about this, but this gives me the impression that the days of free online music downloads are seriously numbered. Unfortunatley. :-/
Below are some of the highlights of the story:
"Effective Thursday, the Recording Industry Association of America will begin gathering evidence and preparing lawsuits against individual computer users who are illegally offering to share substantial amounts of copyrighted music over peer-to-peer networks"
"The Washington, D.C.-based Recording Industry Association of America expects to use the data it collects as the basis for filing what could be thousands of suits accusing individual peer-to-peer music distributors of copyright infringement. The first round of suits could take come as early as mid-August."
"To gather data, the association will use software that scans the public directories available to any user of a peer-to-peer network. These directories, which allow users to find the material they are seeking, list all the files that other users of the network are offering to distribute. When the software finds a user who is offering to distribute copyrighted music files, it downloads some of the infringing files, along with the date and time it accessed the files."
"Additional information available from these systems allows the association to identify their Internet service providers. The association then can subpoena the ISP, requesting the name and address of the person whose account was used to distribute copyrighted music."
http://austin.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2003/06/23/daily27.html
Subject: Re: Time to "Face the Music"?
This is bullcrap. I cannot express in words how angry I am. >:( >:( >:(
The music industry (as well as MTV) is just trouble, IMO. They've caused the distortion of image (Avril Lavigne + Good Charlotte as "punks" and all the sexy stuff we see on TV as normal), through MTV and music artists. They've overcharged CDs, and then expect us to go buy them when we can just download the few songs we want? Ridiculous.
I don't blame the artists as much as the record company for the downfall of P2P, because the artists earn MUCH MUCH less than the record company, especially if it is a band, whom splits their earnings.
And it really sucks becauses the CDs on major record labels, the one's selling for $15, are the only ones you see on the shelves. The indie artists, and those with $9 CDs (or less) you rarely find in music stores.
This sucks. :-/
ETA: "In making the announcement, the association underscored the fact that major music companies have made catalogues of music available to dozens of services to help create legitimate, inexpensive alternatives to online piracy." ::) Whatever.
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Time to register with an out-of-country anonymizing proxy server... then the US would have to invade in order to get the IP information. Then again, maybe not such a good idea ;-)
Phil
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Face The Music
That was the title of a cool ELO album.
Electric Light Orchestra rocks!
Subject: Re: Time to "Face the Music"?
Unfortunately, like it or not, sharing copyrighted material over the internet without permission of the copyright owner is illegal. As a copyright owner myself, I know how vital it is to me that my work is protected from people who may want to steal it, even if their intentions are good. For me, it's not about the money, because I don't really make any; it's about my work not being passed off as someone else's. But other people do make money out of their copyrighted works. It's what they do for a living; distributing it for free deprives them from income. If I borrowed someone's car to drive across town without their permission, I'd be arrested even if I put it back later. It's the same principle.
*BTW - I know that a great deal of copyrighted work is owned by massive corporations, but that doesn't make any difference. Taking the latest Harry Potter film for a test screening off the net without the movie company's permission is the same as taking a new Mustang out for a spin without asking the dealer first.
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I'm really not too sure how the RIAA can sue so many people. Tonight there are at least 4,300,000 users!
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This could be just a scare tactic. There's no way they could sue all of the people, especially the very many who aren't worth suing because of their lack of money.
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This could be just a scare tactic. There's no way they could sue all of the people, especially the very many who aren't worth suing because of their lack of money.
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Yes, I agree totally!
I wonder though, is it actually illegal to share the material or just to copy it. I could claim that my material is made public for my own use or that of others licenced to watch/listen (BS I know but to prove in court....) IMO, the law is only broken when an unauthorised user copies the file.
Either way, I don't think the RIAA has any authority in my country ;D
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Either way, I don't think the RIAA has any authority in my country ;D
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I hope not as well. I live in the same country as you do. ;D
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Actually, it doesn't matter if the British do follow this up. With over 4 million users, if they are sued in alphabetical order with 100 cases/day, it will still take 50 years before it's my turn 8)
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So you reckon if people get sued. It's all going to happen alphabetically? I got the impression it was a random search. If what you are saying is correct, it will take a while for me then, my surname starts at the far side of the alphabetical spectrum.
I think suing the people that use it is unfair because Kazaa is providing us with a service that allows us to get material we will never find in stores.
I don't think the RIAA will be happy with me, I wouldn't have a lot of money to give them. :)
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Grrr. How is this any different from buying a blank tape and taping songs off the radio, and buying VCR tapes to tape a show when you're not home when you can buy the whole first season on DVD anyway?
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Grrr. How is this any different from buying a blank tape and taping songs off the radio, and buying VCR tapes to tape a show when you're not home when you can buy the whole first season on DVD anyway?
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A very good point, Lebeiw15! I know there is a difference but I can't for the life of me figure it out.
Subject: Re: Time to "Face the Music"?
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Grrr. How is this any different from buying a blank tape and taping songs off the radio, and buying VCR tapes to tape a show when you're not home when you can buy the whole first season on DVD anyway?
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Hear hear!!
What about eBay? I buy all my cd's off eBay...is that illegal too? ???
Subject: Re: Time to "Face the Music"?
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Grrr. How is this any different from buying a blank tape and taping songs off the radio, and buying VCR tapes to tape a show End Quote
It isn't. Making copies of anything is illegal if you're not the registered copyright owner. Making a tape to play in your car, taping a show off TV, photocopying pages out of a book, reproducing song lyrics on websites... the list is endless. But obviously no one is going to be too bothered if you're just using those copies for your own personal use. When you start giving those copies to other people is when the problems arise, because then you're not only making illegal copies, you're distributing them, and that is also illegal.
Subject: Re: Time to "Face the Music"?
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What about eBay? I buy all my cd's off eBay...is that illegal too? ???
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No. It's not against the law to sell used CDs, only to make copies of them and give them to people.
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I never knew I broke the law so many times in my life. :-X :o
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Eh.
(chants of "Anarchy!" come from the devil on Junior's shoulder) ;D
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Of course, I blame the people who make cd burning technology available to the common man... :P
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Of course, I blame the people who make cd burning technology available to the common man... :P
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It's quite true. It would be like a shopkeeper telling you about the evils of eating sweets before mealtimes after selling you a lollipop.