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I'm probably 1,000 miles from Denver, but still that name sounds so familiar...odd... ???

Hehe, that has no relevance to the main point of this article...oh well.

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Definately.  Pearl Jam are a bunch of 90's has beens.
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hehe, hey they were cool...12 years ago. ;D

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Out of deep respect for my buddy Race, I shall remain speechless  :-X   ;)
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Thank you PoP :)

But I got to say that I sure want to KICK SOME LURKER A$$!!! >:(

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Thank you PoP :)
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Your welcome  :)  

p.s. - don't forget to listen to lots of AIC tomorrow  :(

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I listen to Pearl Jam because I like their music.  :D They are still excellent, IMO.
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Yeah Shaz!  They are still good and producing great music, IM(non)HO 8)

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They had every right to critisize George W. Bush.  But they should have known who their primary audience was.  Most people that listen to the Dixie Chicks are a bunch of dumb rednecks driving around in pickup trucks with rebel flags on them.  They also listen to Rush Limbaugh, watch NASCAR and the WWF.  A bunch of hicks that idolize John Wayne weren't going to take to bad mouthing a conservative President, especially one from Texas.  Ofcourse yahoos like that were going to overreact and boycott the Dixie Chicks.  Look at these redneck morons, driving their pickups and tractors over Dixie Chick CDs that they PAID for!! I think the Dixie Chicks should have known better in that regard, they should have remembered who their primary audience was, and that......was a huge mistake on their part.  
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WHOA!!! I cannot believe you had the nerve to write that..........

I listen to Dixie Chicks so does that mean I am a "dumb redneck"?  How can you say such awful things like that?  Who are YOU to stereotype people in that regard?  I don't know how long you have been on this board, or how active you are here, but I can tell you one thing....your name-calling & your unsavory attitude will NOT be tolerated in a place such as this.  >:(  

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WHOA!!! I cannot believe you had the nerve to write that..........

I listen to Dixie Chicks so does that mean I am a "dumb redneck"?  How can you say such awful things like that?  Who are YOU to stereotype people in that regard?  I don't know how long you have been on this board, or how active you are here, but I can tell you one thing....your name-calling & your unsavory attitude will NOT be tolerated in a place such as this.  >:(  
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no kidding! and what's that supposed to mean "especially one from Texas"  ?    >:(

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WHOA!!! I cannot believe you had the nerve to write that..........

I listen to Dixie Chicks so does that mean I am a "dumb redneck"?  How can you say such awful things like that?  Who are YOU to stereotype people in that regard?  I don't know how long you have been on this board, or how active you are here, but I can tell you one thing....your name-calling & your unsavory attitude will NOT be tolerated in a place such as this.  >:(  
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I looked over that post and you're right, it was way out of line.  I'm sorry and I apologize for making such broad sweeping and insulting statements about a certain demographic.  I just feel that the DC have recieved too much flak for stating their opinions, and that the people driving tractors and pickups over CDs that they paid for are nuts.  

I get into debates with that particular demographic all the time on political chats, and I find them very predictable with what they're going to say, and I suppose I've learned that I just don't like them very much.  I'm sorry guys, everyone is right, it was definately an out of line and insulting thing to post and wrong of me to make such sweeping judgments.

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I looked over that post and you're right, it was way out of line.  I'm sorry and I apologize for making such broad sweeping and insulting statements about a certain demographic.  I just feel that the DC have recieved too much flak for stating their opinions, and that the people driving tractors and pickups over CDs that they paid for are nuts.  

I get into debates with that particular demographic all the time on political chats, and I find them very predictable with what they're going to say, and I suppose I've learned that I just don't like them very much.  I'm sorry guys, everyone is right, it was definately an out of line and insulting thing to post and wrong of me to make such sweeping judgments.
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Let's hope your apology's accepted. You suffer from a case of prejudice and that's all well and good, for no one has the right to tell you how to be.

However, it will get you banned if ever expressed again here in these forums.

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the people driving tractors and pickups over CDs that they paid for are nuts.  

I get into debates with that particular demographic all the time on political chats, and I find them very predictable with what they're going to say, and I suppose I've learned that I just don't like them very much.  
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Even your apologies are full of prejudices and generalizations. A suggestion: head on down the information highway.

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So let's just consider Paul S.'s statement as a error of judgement on his part and move on. We are all under the same Constitution.

I was pee-ed off when Sinead O'Connor tore the Pope's picture on SNL and said, "Fight the real enemy!" And from then one I believed that Sinead was the real enemy. But I digress.
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It was pretty flippin' bizzare, thats for sure.

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Dixie Chicks mistakes? Mistakes??

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Apparently it is in the ears of some of their former listeners.

Btw, I do agree with Paul S.'s first statement only in regards to the people who boycotted The Dixie Chicks, not to people who listen to them.

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I looked over that post and you're right, it was way out of line.  I'm sorry and I apologize for making such broad sweeping and insulting statements about a certain demographic.  I just feel that the DC have recieved too much flak for stating their opinions, and that the people driving tractors and pickups over CDs that they paid for are nuts.  

I get into debates with that particular demographic all the time on political chats, and I find them very predictable with what they're going to say, and I suppose I've learned that I just don't like them very much.  I'm sorry guys, everyone is right, it was definately an out of line and insulting thing to post and wrong of me to make such sweeping judgments.
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OMG!!! let me at him!! Please Hair hold me back!!!

Ok.....you said you are sorry...Nah, nope..not good enough for me!!  You think it is OK to attack a person cuz of where they live??  Don't think so!!!

I am American born..and southern by the Grace of God....not only did you attack me and my fellow southerners...you attack everything we stand for.  We are NOT your liberal dipsh!ts out in Hollywood screaming NO MORE WAR...we ARE your good ol boys and girls that would put down everything we own to defend our country!  We DO NOT support what the Chicks had to say...so if we decided to bulldoze their CD then that is our GOD GIVEN RIGHT!  And another thing....I fly my rebel flag with pride....to show YOU PEOPLE we still love our country!

I have no idea how old you are, but I think what you said shows it.  Before you EVER attack the land I love and call home.....you better think again. THIS Dixie Chick will stand up and fight against what ever name you have to call us..and by your name calling it only dumbs YOU down!  Not here.....try it again sometime else Sam, when you have something to say that does not insult us and makes sense...other wise....take you sh!t somewhere else!

Quoting:Concert-goers head to exits after anti-Bush display

By Mark Brown, Rocky Mountain News
April 3, 2003


Incensed fans walked out of Pearl Jam's concert Tuesday after lead singer Eddie Vedder impaled a mask of President Bush on a microphone stand, then slammed it to the stage.

Most of Vedder's antiwar remarks earlier in the Pepsi Center show were greeted with mixed cheers and scattered boos. But dozens of angry fans walked out during the encore because of the macabre display with the Bush mask, which he wore for the song Bushleaguer, a Bush- taunting song from the band's latest album, Riot Act.

"When he was sharing his political views in a fairly benign manner - supporting our troops, opposing policy - that's OK," said Keith Zimmerman, of Denver.

"When he takes what looks like the head of George Bush on a stick, then throws it to the stage and stomps on it, that's just unacceptable. I love Pearl Jam, but that was just way over the edge. We literally got up and left."

"I wasn't sure if it was really happening," said Kim Mueller. "We looked at each other and realized he really did have George Bush's head on a stick and was waving it in the air, then slam-med it to the ground and step-ped on it."

"It was like he decapitated someone in a primal ritual and stuck their head on a stick," Zimmerman said. "It kinda blows away the Dixie Chicks." ...

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I wonder how this would have been reported had America not been at war, or even if it would have been reported at all...  ::)

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I wonder how this would have been reported had America not been at war, or even if it would have been reported at all...  ::)
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I don't know... if a bear sh!ts in the woods and no one was around to smell it, would it stink?

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I looked over that post and you're right, it was way out of line.  I'm sorry and I apologize for making such broad sweeping and insulting statements about a certain demographic.  I just feel that the DC have recieved too much flak for stating their opinions, and that the people driving tractors and pickups over CDs that they paid for are nuts.  

I get into debates with that particular demographic all the time on political chats, and I find them very predictable with what they're going to say, and I suppose I've learned that I just don't like them very much.  I'm sorry guys, everyone is right, it was definately an out of line and insulting thing to post and wrong of me to make such sweeping judgments.
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Just what demographic are you talking about, here, pal? I'm just wondering if I fit into that demographic. I occasionally listen to the Dixie Chicks. I'm from the south. Even though I never post political views on here, I lean to the left, so that knocks me out of the "good ol' boy conservitive" stereotype. I watch NASCAR but don't get into WWF at all.  I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh. I don't idolize John Wayne but respected the HELL out of his morals and love of country. So lets see, thats 3 for, and 3 against fitting into your demographic, I imagine. I can only say that if it takes arguing my point of view with someone as obviously biased, predjudiced, and completely clueless to the feelings of others as you, to fit in that demographic, then I definetly don't fit, because I wouldn't waste my time. Was that what you "predicted" you were going to hear? And as far as whether you "like" me or not, well, I won't lose any sleep. And no, Hair, I don't accept an apology that's really no apology at all.

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It appears not many people are going to let me off the hook for those statements, so I think it's best if I just leave this topic be, since quite a few people are CLEARLY trying to goad and bait me into a fight which I won't be able to win since I already made some boneheaded opening statments.  Hairspray, that includes you too.
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Don't push your luck, Paul S. I will only allow your disrespectful personal remark go because you're reacting like someone who's cornered. You get yourself deeper in it the more you post in this topic. Your apologies are poorly written and insincere. You still display prejudice. On top of that, you are bashing those who have a right to feel offended in the first place by your posts. You will be doing yourself a great favor by no longer replying to this thread. You're on strike 2. The third one and you're out.

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(there appears to be a pack hound mentality growing here)
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Yup...nothing like an apology, with a nice little dig to end it off with...what a friggen joke this guy is ::)

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Yup...nothing like an apology, with a nice little dig to end it off with...what a friggen joke this guy is ::)
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Southernspitfire, I am trying my darndest to hold my tongue and not lash out at Paul S.  :)

But man its not easy. :(

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Yup...nothing like an apology, with a nice little dig to end it off with...what a friggen joke this guy is ::)
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My thoughts exactly. ::)

And, Race, that was great! :D

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Did anyone see that Saturday Night Live skit they did today about Dixie Chick fans?  It relates to the discussion that is going on here.  It was hilarious, they got these two guys to dress up as stereotypical hicks and claim they were Dixie Chick fans while and they sang a country song about how they are boycotting and protesting everything that they feel is anti-Bush, anti-War, and just plain anti-American.
  They weren't just protesting the Dixie Chicks in their song, but everything they didn't agree with.  "I'm boycotting Coca-Puffs cereal, because I don't know why, they're un-American I guess...".  LOL, it was kinda mean spirited towards that public perceived idea of what a Dixie Chick fan must be like, but it SOOO HILARIOUS.  Just a funny skit that SNL did today I thought I would mention when I saw this topic.  
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That was soooo funny!  That was hands down the funniest SNL I've ever seen!  The whole show was hysterical!  

Tina Fey is a fantastic comedy writer.  Jimmy Fallon is a cutie pie!

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Board Members show Newbie exit after incensitive display

By Race Bannon, Rain Soaked News
April 7, 2003


Incensed board members give text lashing to Paul S posting Saturday after Newbie Paul insulted board members during the posting "Seems like Pearl Jam didn't learn from the mistakes of their fellow musicians (Dixie Chicks) and had to try it for themselves.", then slammed posters later in follow-up "apologies".

Most of Paul's anti-censorship remarks earlier in subject were greeted with few cheers and numerous boos. But dozens of angry fans lashed out during the follow-up apology because of the macabre display of prejudice, aniti Country-Western, and Southern born views.
"When he was sharing his musical views in a fairly benign manner - supporting our posters, opposing censorship - that's OK," said Hairspray, of Points Unknown.

"When he takes what looks like a rebel flag on a stick, then throws it to the stage and stomps on it, that's just unacceptable. I love a good posting , but that was just way over the edge. We literally got up and left."

"I wasn't sure if it was really happening," said Southern Spitfire. "We looked at each other and realized he really did have Rebel Flag on a stick and was waving it in the air, then ran it to the ground with a 4x4 U.S. made pick-up."

"It was like he insulted the whole southern reigion in an ignorant ritual and stuck their lives on a stick," Dude said. "It kinda blows away the Dixie Chicks and Pearl Jam." ...
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LMFAO!

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Thanks for the laughs folks. :)
It just fit to well into the subject context to ignore.  Also, Rain Soaked News is a fee weekly that you can most commonly find in Tanning Shops and Retirement Centers.
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Race?  Is there anyway you could maybe give us another article based on the recent events surrounding a certain thread over in PPP?   ::)

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Race?  Is there anyway you could maybe give us another article based on the recent events surrounding a certain thread over in PPP?   ::)
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werd  ;D

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Race?  Is there anyway you could maybe give us another article based on the recent events surrounding a certain thread over in PPP?   ::)
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You're just being mean spirited!!!  :D ;)

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You're just being mean spirited!!!  :D ;)
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Apparantly that's my bag baby!  ::)

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Apparantly that's my bag baby!  ::)
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Hey, everyone is good at something!  ;D

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Don't push your luck, Paul S. I will only allow your disrespectful personal remark go because you're reacting like someone who's cornered. You get yourself deeper in it the more you post in this topic. Your apologies are poorly written and insincere. You still display prejudice. On top of that, you are bashing those who have a right to feel offended in the first place by your posts. You will be doing yourself a great favor by no longer replying to this thread. You're on strike 2. The third one and you're out.
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You never did respond to my private message calling you out on this very unfair and ridiculous post.  You know that your opinions as a moderator carry more weight then a typical poster, and you publicly discredited my apologies of being that of an insincere and cowardly person who feels cornered.  Then you say I'm personaly attacking you and bashing people?  Huh?  You know very well I didn't do any of that.  Then ofcourse you continue you to threaten me with banning for making apologies.  

I don't care if this post gets me banned, I think you've shown yourself to be a wreckless and unfair moderator.  If speaking my mind out against you gets me banned, then so be it.  I don't care who you are.  I always speak my peace on what I think is right and wrong.  

Now why don't you just lock this thread?
 

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You never did respond to my private message calling you out on this very unfair and ridiculous post.  You know that your opinions as a moderator carry more weight then a typical poster, and you publicly discredited my apologies of being that of an insincere and cowardly person who feels cornered.  Then you say I'm personally attacking you and bashing people?  Huh?  You know very well I didn't do any of that.  Then of (space)course you continue you to threaten me with banning for making apologies.  

I don't care if this post gets me banned, I think you've shown yourself to be a wreckless and unfair moderator.  If speaking my mind out against you gets me banned, then so be it.  I don't care who you are.  I always speak my piece on what I think is right and wrong.  

Now why don't you just lock this thread?
 
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You never did respond to my private message calling you out on this very unfair and ridiculous post.  You know that your opinions as a moderator carry more weight then a typical poster, and you publicly discredited my apologies of being that of an insincere and cowardly person who feels cornered.  Then you say I'm personaly attacking you and bashing people?  Huh?  You know very well I didn't do any of that.  Then ofcourse you continue you to threaten me with banning for making apologies.  

I don't care if this post gets me banned, I think you've shown yourself to be a wreckless and unfair moderator.  If speaking my mind out against you gets me banned, then so be it.  I don't care who you are.  I always speak my peace on what I think is right and wrong.  

Now why don't you just lock this thread?
 
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You are STILL spouting? Hair is a fantastic moderator, you were lucky not have been banned before. I hope you are now you idiot. LEAVE already! LEAVE! We don't need you here. >:(

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Gonna have to fix your grammar, homeboy.


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Spelling, son.  You fixed his spelling.

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Spelling, son.  You fixed his spelling.
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Whatever 8)

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You are STILL spouting? Hair is a fantastic moderator, you were lucky not have been banned before. I hope you are now you idiot. LEAVE already! LEAVE! We don't need you here. >:(
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I don't care if I am banned.  I'm sure I will be.  It no longer matters, I speak my mind on right and wrong.  

And whose doing the bashing and trolling here?  "Idiot"?  

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I don't care if I am banned.  I'm sure I will be.  It no longer matters, I speak my mind on right and wrong.  

And whose doing the bashing and trolling here?  "Idiot"?  
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Ok babyboy......I am here now....in my full face!

And I am here to tell you that you are suffering from "Foot In Mouth Disease"  It is common for off the wall mouthy people that wander their way into our little nice calm world.

The symptoms are calling people names like "Redneck" and "Rebel Flag Fliers"  This of course scares people into thinking they might can catch this HORRIBLE disease....so they try to get rid of the infected one...ie: YOU!!!!!!

So do us all a favor.....save us from a plague caused from your "fever" and get the h#ll out of Dodge...and save Hair the trouble of banning you.  It is MUCH less painful that way!

And btw......she does NOT have to answer to you....so save your stupid pm's for Penthouse Forum

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Will the real Grammarian please stand up?  ;D
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I'm up to your tricks, Stealth, and you better watch your spelling and grammar. I will also be checking to see if you're citing in your future posts... or else it's 40 keystrokes ===> for you :o <===

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Ok babyboy......I am here now....in my full face!

And I am here to tell you that you are suffering from "Foot In Mouth Disease"  It is common for off the wall mouthy people that wander their way into our little nice calm world.

The symptoms are calling people names like "Redneck" and "Rebel Flag Fliers"  This of course scares people into thinking they might can catch this HORRIBLE disease....so they try to get rid of the infected one...ie: YOU!!!!!!

So do us all a favor.....save us from a plague caused from your "fever" and get the h#ll out of Dodge...and save Hair the trouble of banning you.  It is MUCH less painful that way!

And btw......she does NOT have to answer to you....so save your stupid pm's for Penthouse Forum
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And I told you, I don't care.  I speak my mind.  Why does it matter to you anyway?  She's sure to ban me, so that will be the end of it and I will no longer be around.

By the way, take a look at the way you address me and the way I respond to you.  Please stop calling me "boy", "stupid",  and "idiot".

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Shoo fly.....stop bothering me...

hey....can you hand me a fly swatter?  A bug only deserves to be squished!
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*hands Southernspitfire a giant human-sized fly swatter and a giant can of Raid* :D

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Just because someone speaks their mind doesn't excuse someone speaking their mind STUPIDLY.



Note:  I have not read most of this thread and have no idea what the argument is about.

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Just because someone speaks their mind doesn't excuse someone speaking their mind STUPIDLY.



Note:  I have not read most of this thread and have no idea what the argument is about.
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That is so Cool 8) ;D

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That is so Cool 8) ;D
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Pretending to know what I'm talking about is cool?

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Pretending to know what I'm talking about is cool?
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Facetious statement, sorry Kenny.