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Subject: War Coverage: Good or Bad?
Now that the War on Iraq is in full gear, I would like to ask how the networks and cable news stations are doing in covering the action in the Middle East? My opinion is that we can probably receive better information in USA Today or our local paper than we can on the tube. So what are your assetments of the Iraqi conflict?
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Since it seems appropriate in this thread, did you hear about how Geraldo Rivera and Peter Arnett got tossed out of Iraq because of journalistic stupidity? ::)
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Oops, I just started my own thread about that. Sorry. :-/
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Oops, I just started my own thread about that. Sorry. :-/
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S'coo 8) Post some links or something :)
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Generally, I think that the news organizations have been trying to give unbiased reports. CNN is probably the best at being neutral in this thing. They tend to report things as they are, not as their oppinions color them.
MSNBC is alright. It leans slightly to the right, but it is more neutral than other 24hr news channels. It is one of the worst as far as sensationalization of the war. Yeah, I'm talking about their stupid count-down-to-war-ticker.
FOX news: blech! I have never seen a channel that has claimed to be providing "fair and balanced news" be so completely opposite. They glory in the war! They talk like we're big shots just going in there, beating the bad guys and getting cheered for it. They are more of a propaganda channel than a news channel.
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The thing I don't like is that I don't know if the news reports are accurate in the first place, because it seems different networks give different viewpoints. So do I put the different viewpoints into an aggregate viewpoint, or what? :P
And then, of course, you have the specialists and the experts, like the retired generals, who say "This is how they're gonna attack" and that makes me say "Oh great, why don't you TELL the enemy how we're going to do everything now?" But then again, they might not have any idea what they're talking about because they're old and senile and aren't privy to certain "sensitive materials."
And when they put that Iraqi ambassador on, either in a soundbite or videoclip or an interview, I just want to launch a brick through the TV >:(
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CNN is probably the best at being neutral in this thing. They tend to report things as they are, not as their oppinions color them.End Quote
John, I haven't had a "laugh-out-loud" moment today, until I read this!
Wow, that is so funny.
if CNN was any more "left", anti-Bush, anti-military, etc etc than they already are, they would have to change their name to "Communist News Network". Hey, it even fits into the name "CNN".
Thanks for the laugh!
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You keep your FOX News and I'll keep my C-span and CNN. (I don't like CNN that much. They're too zealous in their war coverage, and they aren't above sensationalizing with the rest of them.)
I also liked that C-span picked up the CBC (the Canadian News on Iraq). It was nice not to have the horrors of war flung in your face dripping with graphics and scary music.
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I think it would be nice if media outlets would just stick to the FACTS, and cut out the speculation. I'm sick of seeing retired Generals and military strategists predicting what COULD happen. One outlet predicts the war will be a cakewalk, another says it will be prolonged and bloody, the government steps in and tells them both to shut up and stop leading the public on.
I also don't think American news agencies should be showing propaganda film from Iraqi television. If their reporters are going to tag along with American troops and rely on them for protection, then they should not be questioning every move they make. If they really want to see the Iraqi side of the battle then they should go to their side and see how well they will be treated.
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Oh Gawd! Someone actually watches FOX?
Ok people when you see a conversation like this:
Fox Anchor Women: "...and, uh...what are those big things with the rolling tread thingees..."
Solider In Iraq: "Uh, tanks..."
Fox Anchor Women: "Ah yes...tanks..."
Then you should maybe get an idea that it’s not exactly quality news...
How's the war coverage...? Eeeh...http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/fragend/confused-smiley-013.gif
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At first I was watching MSNBC & CNN, but found that my local Washington D.C. coverage is way better. The news here uses less "filler material" it seems. Focuses more on the facts rather than the "what ifs".
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Oh Gawd! Someone actually watches FOX?
Ok people when you see a conversation like this:
Fox Anchor Women: "...and, uh...what are those big things with the rolling tread thingees..."
Solider In Iraq: "Uh, tanks..."
Fox Anchor Women: "Ah yes...tanks..."
Then you should maybe get an idea that it’s not exactly quality news...
How's the war coverage...? Eeeh...http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung/fragend/confused-smiley-013.gif
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Totally 8) FOX and NBC are yellow, sensationalistic journalism in disguise. I watch that crap for laughs. Heck! Not even our govt. will use them as their exclusive news media - they use CNN: CNN sucks too, but their anchor women are HOT! Rudi Bakhtiar (hmmm, Persian hottie!) and Heidi Collins (hmmm, Irish hottie!). I'm sticking with CNN for the eye-candy and anything BBC for real news.
News coverage is adequate. We need more propaganda/spin pushing our troops over there. Coalition nations may as well rally for themselves - and this includes the media coverage.
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Totally 8) FOX and NBC are yellow, sensationalistic journalism in disguise. I watch that crap for laughs. Heck! Not even our govt. will use them as their exclusive news media - they use CNN: CNN sucks too, but their anchor women are HOT! Rudi Bakhtiar (hmmm, Persian hottie!) and Heidi Collins (hmmm, Irish hottie!). I'm sticking with CNN for the eye-candy and anything BBC for real news.
News coverage is adequate. We need more propaganda/spin pushing our troops over there. Coalition nations may as well rally for themselves - and this includes the media coverage.
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I wouldn't mind the 24/7 coverage if it was actually 24/7, and not eighteen hours of the same four minutes recycled over and over while experts stand around and tell us that the sandy desert is smoother going for the tanks than the rocky desert.
Give me data overload. It's a bloody war. If you're going to show it, show it. In the meantime, I keep expecting the networks to give up on any appearance of integrity and just start cutting it into music videos.
(Do you watch Kylie Minogue on FOX, Nathan Lane and the cast of HMS Pinafore on CBS, Enrique Iglesias on NBC, or Hanson on ABC?)
Like the war itself, I wouldn't mind the 24/7 coverage if it was honest.
Ah what the bloody hayel happen'd to me post...?
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Quoting:Give me data overload. It's a bloody war. If you're going to show it, show it. In the meantime, I keep expecting the networks to give up on any appearance of integrity and just start cutting it into music videos.
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hmmm, sounds familiar...sort of like when CNN/Headline News has their musical guests? Their ratings are so far in the toilet they acutally stooped to having random musical performances on their CNN/Hedaline News broadcast.
Whenever I stumble onto CNN/Headline News, I can't determine if I'm watching Saturday Night Live, or a real news network.