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Alright Lurking Ones...

This is ridiculous.  Until they figure out what actually happened on the shuttle yesterday, NOBODY is to blame.  I don't even know what the point of this thread is.
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Well I'm not a lurker/guest anymore.  And the POINT of this thread is that most Conservatives blame Bill Clinton for everything wrong in America.  

The Clinton bashing has gone to ludicrous extremes and the man hasn't even been in office for the past 2 years.  What else is Bill Clinton responsible for?

Did Clinton sink the Titanic?

Did he cause the Stock Market Crash of 1929?

Was Bill Clinton behind the grassy knoll in Dallas back in 1963?

Did Clinton fix the World Series?  How about the Superbowl?

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What are you doing?  Trying to fit in kid?

Is there anyone with sense wants to discuss the constant Clinton bashing that is always rampant in America?  For goodness sake, the shuttle had exploded and within the hour FOX NEWS was already starting up with the "Clinton did it!" silliness.  And I promise you that the weekly talk radio will have even more conspiracy theories about Clinton and the shuttle disaster.

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Seems to me, and I could be wrong, but the only one calling names is you. Noone is pointing fingers at our former president and quite honestly, this is tacky. Seven people lost their lives. Blame is a misuse of your time.  ::)
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I'm not calling anyone names, I am reporting what I have already seen on FOX NEWS and MSNBC.  And yes I agree with you that it is tacky to throw blame at a person for such a disaster.  I was about to say that.  But this forum seems to be a haven for the Right Wing, so I am outnumbered.

I figured if I registered and was no longer a lurker/guest, then someone with courage and decency could discuss this topic with me.  But apparently there are no takers, just people who want to dismiss it and throw it back at me and accuse me of being tasteless.  

later

 

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You just know that there will be people in theright wing nutball department....


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This was my point, dude.

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And you can't hold Clinton responsible for this any more than you can hold Reagan responsible for the Challenger explosion.
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I agree.  A budget cut wasn't responsible for a heat shield coming off the shuttle and clipping the wing(which is one of the possible causes of yesterday's explosion).  Thats a maintainance problem.  

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Well I'm not a lurker/guest anymore.  And the POINT of this thread is that most Conservatives blame Bill Clinton for everything wrong in America.  

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And liberals blame conservatives for everything wrong in America. What is new here?

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What are you doing?  Trying to fit in kid?

Is there anyone with sense wants to discuss the constant Clinton bashing that is always rampant in America?  For goodness sake, the shuttle had exploded and within the hour FOX NEWS was already starting up with the "Clinton did it!" silliness.  And I promise you that the weekly talk radio will have even more conspiracy theories about Clinton and the shuttle disaster.
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So why do you assume I'm a kid?  Maybe because I didn't have anything "intelligent" to say.  At least that's what everyone seems to think, kids don't have anything intelligent to say.

I'm not even going to say what I think about this thread, the rolling-eyes smilie did it all for me.

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So why do you assume I'm a kid?  Maybe because I didn't have anything "intelligent" to say.  At least that's what everyone seems to think, kids don't have anything intelligent to say.
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That's not true.  Considering you can actually spell and use grammar, I'd say you're ahead of a lot of the adults ;)

I'm kidding.  But don't let stuff like this bug you.  You'll find out sooner or later that most people don't have issues to argue, so they'll just sling whatever muck they can to try to discredit you.  

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One thing's for sure, we'd be a lot better off with Bill Clinton as President right now. And if the American people had there say, he'd still be President!!!

Stupid amendment, the GOP doesn't want another great Democratic President like Roosevelt or Clinton in power for too long, things can't be good forever, every now and then we need the right wing radical bible thumpers to come along and mess things up.


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I voted for Clinton when he ran against Bush I, and if there hadn't been a twenty-second amendment I probably would have voted for him against Bush II.

And you know what? Even though I thought the Lewinski scandal was overblown, a whole bunch of people in America didn't.  Clinton was wounded, and if had been possible for him to run for a third term the long knives would have come out.

The irony of the term limitation is that the party who pushed for it had the first candidate who was hurt by it.  Ronald Reagan, in my opinion, was so popular (not with me) that a third term would have been a given it he would have been allowed to run.

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That's not true.  Considering you can actually spell and use grammar, I'd say you're ahead of a lot of the adults ;)End Quote

You Grammarian, you ;) I'm still reeling over my own grammar mistakes, but, then again, one can use commas the way I just did, right? It's got to be grammatically correct. I was killing myself over that one!

...must write "totality" 100 times on the board...

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I'm gonna copy and save this one for my future reference - or if Picador ever loses his cool :) :D ;D

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You Grammarian, you ;) I'm still reeling over my own grammar mistakes, but, then again, one can use commas the way I just did, right? It's got to be grammatically correct. I was killing myself over that one!

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One need not spell correctly to make his point ;)  But it sure would be nice if he did.  My friend Watt can't type worth sh*t...I've called his particular brand of typing "Wattese," and as long as I can decipher it, all is good.

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I'm gonna copy and save this one for my future reference - or if Picador ever loses his cool :) :D ;D
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I'll be sure to let you know next time I sling muck, but I'm sure you'll be watching anyway ;)

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*humor break*

I am from the land of Clinton....we still blame everything on him!!!!! ;D ;D


*break over*
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You didn't? Please say you didn't.  ;)

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You didn't? Please say you didn't.  ;)
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I did!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

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I did!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Come and give me a hug and tell me all about it.   ;) ;D

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I hereby disown and give up on this thread, since only a couple of people understood the point I was making and my disgust with FOX NEWS and their lack of taste in this matter.  Anyhoo, listen to the talk radio this week, I'll bet you'll hear more of the "Clinton adminstration is reponsible" nonsense.
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Sorry Chris.....you might be right....but when you are from where I am......anytime you hear the name Bill Clinton.....it turns into a joke!

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I was watching FOX NEWS yesterday and they were interviewing someone who said that previous administrations cut backs to NASA funding resulted in the disaster.  Wanna take a wild guess at which adminstration they were implying/talking about?  
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Do you have a case that a lack of funding from previous administrations was NOT partially to blame for the crash?

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Do you have a case that a lack of funding from previous administrations was NOT partially to blame for the crash?
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The US administration has been cutting back on the space program for decades.

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The US administration has been cutting back on the space program for decades.
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So, previous administrations then.  Which was exactly what Chris said they were saying on FoxNews.  

So now that that's out of the way, I'd like to know what Chris saw that suggested that they were implying Clinton specifically was to blame.

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I hereby disown and give up on this thread, since only a couple of people understood the point I was making and my disgust with FOX NEWS and their lack of taste in this matter.  Anyhoo, listen to the talk radio this week, I'll bet you'll hear more of the "Clinton adminstration is reponsible" nonsense.
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You just know that there will be people in the right wing nutball department that will start blaming Bill Clinton for yesterday's Columbia shuttle disaster.  

They blamed Bill Clinton for Waco, they blamed Bill Clinton for Oklahoma, they blamed Bill Clinton for the bombing of the USS Cole, they blamed Bill Clinton for the September 11th attacks, and they blame Bill Clinton for the downward spiral of the economy.  The last two Clinton wasn't even in office!  Is it ever Dubya's fault?  No, never Dubya's fault.  George Jr. is just an innocent good ol' boy.  But the supposedly "evil dinosaur Liberal media" is always going after Clinton.  Yeah some Liberal media we have.  Clinton hasn't even been president for the past 2 years, but he's still the favorite punching bag of the conservative right.  Someone could blow up the Statue of Liberty tommorrow and they would still find a way to blame Bill Clinton.  

I was watching FOX NEWS yesterday and they were interviewing someone who said that previous administrations cut backs to NASA funding resulted in the disaster.  Wanna take a wild guess at which adminstration they were implying/talking about?  I can expect such bull sh*t from a conservative station like FOX NEWS, but I heard some people on MSNBC starting up with the same nonsense.  It's a gaurantee that Monday talk radio is going to be filled with people like Rush Limbaugh fielding every yahoo in America's opinion on how the Clinton Adminstration is somehow responsible for the Columbia disaster.End Quote

This line "right wing nutball department" should not have been taken personally, folks. It was a general rant and his opinion of a political party, not you.

We must try to see past the emotion expressed in a post, especially political ones which tend to be charged.

A thought attempted to be expressed by a poster can be easily clouded by anger or frustration and appear personally insulting, though it may not have been the posters intention.

We must try to be objective and find the main idea of the post, no matter how hard it may be sometimes.

Our opinions and comments should be aimed in that direction.

someone who said previous administrations cut backs to NASA funding resulted in the disaster

This above quote was the trigger.

Chris MegatronTHX observed some political opinions aired shortly after the tragedy in some of the networks and strongly disagreed.

Is there any way to salvage this thread?

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Is there any way to salvage this thread?
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We could just keep bantering back and forth ::)

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We could just keep bantering back and forth ::)
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YOu're NOT helping.  :(

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YOu're NOT helping.  :(
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Sowwy.  

How about we have Steve give us a history lesson?

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Sowwy.  

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Hmmm.... Running out of ideas, are you?  ;)

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Hmmm.... Running out of ideas, are you?  ;)
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Well, I figure that the facts lie in recorded history, so if one has all the facts then one will no longer have to argue.  Don't you agree?  :)

Then everyone can learn a little something something.