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Subject: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Race_Bannon on 01/09/03 at 08:17 a.m.

Here's another study that shows that drinking moderately is actually good for people.  What I don't understand is similar study results come out about every 3-5 years since at least the 80's, and newspapers and TV news always seem pleasantly surprised ::).  Unfortunately it always seemd to be necessary to keep it in moderation. :-/

Study: Frequent Drinking Can Help Heart

By JANET MCCONNAUGHEY
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

As little as half an alcoholic drink a day can reduce the risk of heart attacks, whether the beverage of choice is beer, red wine, white wine or liquor, new research shows.

Scientists have known that drinking can prevent heart attacks, but the study suggests that how often you imbibe is a lot more important than what or how much.

Whether you drink with your meal or at some other time also appears irrelevant.

"It was a surprise that - almost regardless of other factors associated with drinking - frequency of use seemed to be what reduced the subsequent risk of a heart attack," said Dr. Kenneth Mukamal of Harvard University Medical School, who led the study.

Those who drank at least three days a week had about one-third fewer heart attacks than did nondrinkers. And it made almost no difference whether the drinking consisted of half a drink or four. Those who imbibed only once or twice a week had only a 16 percent lower risk of a heart attack.

Some studies have indicated that alcohol raises the level of "good" cholesterol and also thins the blood, warding off the clots that cause heart attacks. But alcohol breaks down fairly rapidly in the body and its effects on red blood cells are short-lived, according to Mukamal.

Mukamal speculated that regular, moderate drinking is beneficial because it helps keep the blood thinned.

"We think it may be much like people who take aspirin every day or every other day. A little bit of alcohol on a regular basis helps keep the platelets from becoming sticky and prevents heart attacks," he said.

He noted that other studies have found that people with a gene that keeps alcohol longer in their system seem to benefit the most from moderate drinking. "That helps reinforce the notion that maintaining a low level of exposure is the way to go," he said.

The study was published in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.

Mukamal and other doctors emphasized that the study applies only to moderate drinkers. The dangers of heavy drinking are well-established and include alcoholism, drunken driving, and damage to the liver and brain. Studies have also found that women who have two or more drinks a day are 41 percent more likely to develop breast cancer than women who do not drink.

"I don't think any doctor would advise a patient to start drinking to prevent heart disease," said Dr. Gary Francis, director of the coronary intensive care unit at the Cleveland Clinic.

"We all, both the media and physicians who see patients, need to be careful that this isn't construed as a license to drink heavily. Certainly we don't want to exchange one public health problem for another."

Mukamal and every other doctor interviewed for comment emphasized that people should talk to their physicians about drinking.

Doctors have long believed that red wine explains the so-called French Paradox - the fact that the French have fewer heart attacks than Americans even though their food is richer. But the new study adds to the evidence that it is the alcohol itself, and not something found only in red wine, such as red pigment, that is good for the heart.

Mukamal analyzed data from Harvard's long-term Health Professionals Follow-Up Study, which involved 51,529 male health professionals - doctors, osteopaths, dentists, optometrists, podiatrists and veterinarians. He looked at 38,077 of them, eliminating people who had stopped drinking within the previous 10 years and those with histories of cancer and diseases of the heart or blood vessels. The study is funded by the National Institutes of Health.

Dr. Lynn Smaha, a cardiologist in Sayre, Pa., and a past president of the American Heart Association, said the study leaves some important questions unanswered. Among them: whether it would apply to a wider group than health professionals, who may take better care of themselves than the average drinker.

Smaha also noted that the overall rate of heart attacks - 1,418 cases out of 38,000 people - was very low, for reasons that were not clear.

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Alicia. on 01/09/03 at 09:25 a.m.



yeah this is good and all except until they drive and ruin someone elses life just to help theirs  :'(

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Thursday on 01/09/03 at 09:34 a.m.

hi alicia :)

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: romeclone22 on 01/09/03 at 12:03 a.m.

Yeah Ive heard them talk about this before.  I say don't worry about statistics and enjoy your life to the fullest, no one will live forever.  :)

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Feiticeira on 01/09/03 at 12:16 a.m.

Of course drinking is healthy and good for you..... if you don't want to keep your liver functioning properly... But hey... who needs a liver any ways...


Drink up ladies and gents.

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Race_Bannon on 01/09/03 at 01:10 p.m.

Good point, we have two, don't we? ;)

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Of course drinking is healthy and good for you..... if you don't want to keep your liver functioning properly... But hey... who needs a liver any ways...


Drink up ladies and gents.
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Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: shazzaah on 01/09/03 at 02:32 p.m.


Everything...I don't care what it is....will end up being bad for you unless used in moderation. I like that note about ppl who drink have fewer heart attacks. Of course, because when your sloshed your not stressed..... ;D :) ;D :) ;D

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Crazy Don on 01/09/03 at 02:40 p.m.

They're now saying it's good for you to drink one beer a day.  I had a terrible case of chest pains some years back and I thought I was having a heart attack, and they said then that drinking grape juice was good for you if you can't drink wine.  I drank grape juice until I got sick of it.

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Goreripper on 01/09/03 at 03:05 p.m.

Remember the old adage - "Eat, drink and be merry". Eat well, drink in moderation and be a short little guy with furry feet. Stay away from motor vehicles and government buildings, and don't walk the streets after dark.


;D

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: jamminoldies on 01/09/03 at 06:57 p.m.

I used to drink back then when I was off my medication.
I drank a Rum Coke,A Fuzzy Navel and A Long Island Iced Tea.
And man,was I buzzed! :oNext Time,I will drink responsibly.

howard :)

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Jonman on 01/10/03 at 01:12 a.m.

i *hic* nEvEr reAliSHeD iT *hic* wash bAD feR mE!! *hic*

Subject: ... but know when to say no

Written By: Steve_H on 01/11/03 at 09:18 p.m.

Hit-And-Run Teenager Takes Dead Man Home
Fri Jan 10, 7:54 AM ET  

VILNIUS (Reuters) - A teenage Lithuanian hit-and-run driver thought he was in the clear once he got home -- only to discover the pedestrian he had knocked down was still under the car.

The unlicensed 18-year-old was shocked to see a man's feet sticking out from under his father's Audi, the daily Lietuvos Rytas reported Friday.

Police were able to identify the remains of the 64-year-old victim, who they said had been drunk and was probably lying in the middle of the street when the car struck him.

"But it goes to show why this kid has failed the driver's test four times," said Stasys Meliunas, chief of police in the town of Rokiskis.




Subject: Re: ... but know when to say no

Written By: Race_Bannon on 01/12/03 at 00:01 a.m.

Typical Steve, always finding exceptions to the rule. ;)
Serious though Steve, do you find these studies kind of silly?  Everytime they're released the media acts "surprised".

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Hit-And-Run Teenager Takes Dead Man Home
Fri Jan 10, 7:54 AM ET  

VILNIUS (Reuters) - A teenage Lithuanian hit-and-run driver thought he was in the clear once he got home -- only to discover the pedestrian he had knocked down was still under the car.

The unlicensed 18-year-old was shocked to see a man's feet sticking out from under his father's Audi, the daily Lietuvos Rytas reported Friday.

Police were able to identify the remains of the 64-year-old victim, who they said had been drunk and was probably lying in the middle of the street when the car struck him.

"But it goes to show why this kid has failed the driver's test four times," said Stasys Meliunas, chief of police in the town of Rokiskis.





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Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Hairspray on 01/12/03 at 00:16 a.m.

I don't know. But I am trying it tonight.  ;D

I'll let you know how I feel in the a.m.  ;) 8) ;D

Subject: Re: Drinking is good for you- Again!

Written By: Race_Bannon on 01/12/03 at 01:31 a.m.

Best of luck to you Hairspray, and always remeber to drink lots of water.

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I don't know. But I am trying it tonight.  ;D

I'll let you know how I feel in the a.m.  ;) 8) ;D
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Subject: Re: ... but know when to say no

Written By: Steve_H on 01/12/03 at 10:59 a.m.


Quoting:
Typical Steve, always finding exceptions to the rule. ;)
Serious though Steve, do you find these studies kind of silly?  Everytime they're released the media acts "surprised".

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I've given up on these stories years ago, Race.  It became too confusing years and years ago.  http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool030.gif

There's something about food and drink that, I believe, immobilizes a part of our brain and renders it temporarily useless.  A couple of weeks ago NPR's Science Friday had a debate about the inadequacies of the "food pyramid."  
Butter, after years in the wilderness, is safe for human consumption again, I believe.  Yogurt?  Anyone else remember when eating yogurt would guarantee a life of at least 100 years (although you'd likely prune up like a Russian peasant towards the end).  Caffeine?  After all we've been through, does anyone lower than a Ph.D. dare affirm caffeine is good for you, or bad for you?  
And I'm not even going to comment about purple grape juice, salt, sugar vs. raw sugar, irradiation.... http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool019.gif

Subject: Re: ... but know when to say no

Written By: Race_Bannon on 01/12/03 at 01:29 p.m.

Augh!  What is it about purple grape juice :o?!?
We are fat in the US but we live longer than we really should anyway, maybe we should encourage purple grape juice and add more red dye #5.

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I've given up on these stories years ago, Race.  It became too confusing years and years ago.  http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool030.gif

There's something about food and drink that, I believe, immobilizes a part of our brain and renders it temporarily useless.  A couple of weeks ago NPR's Science Friday had a debate about the inadequacies of the "food pyramid."  
Butter, after years in the wilderness, is safe for human consumption again, I believe.  Yogurt?  Anyone else remember when eating yogurt would guarantee a life of at least 100 years (although you'd likely prune up like a Russian peasant towards the end).  Caffeine?  After all we've been through, does anyone lower than a Ph.D. dare affirm caffeine is good for you, or bad for you?  
And I'm not even going to comment about purple grape juice, salt, sugar vs. raw sugar, irradiation.... http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/cool/cool019.gif
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