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yeah, live a little ;)
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Carefully, of course.  ;)

HIV/AIDS is still VERY prevalent. Cannot stress enough the end result - DEATH.

Venereal diseases are also around, so protect yourselves folks!

Edited to add: Don't mean to sound preachy. It's just a general message with what I still consider to be good advise. :)

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You know, I know the consequences of unprotected sex…
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Sure you do.

But it's a general message. So, relax.   ;)

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Oh...this thread just SOUNDS dangerous...Rice, do you think we can trust ourselves?
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as long as Crazy Don promises NOT to discuss his sex life ::)

just playing

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138 times a year is really good since the poll did not take into account Americans are the most overworked and underpaid of all those industrialized nations. I wonder if that fact might have to do anything with it ??? Give us the French work year and the benefits and we'd be at 730 times a year!
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That's twice a day, at least...are you out to break Wilt Chamberlain's personal record?

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That's twice a day, at least...are you out to break Wilt Chamberlain's personal record?
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I wish!

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I wish!
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I'm sure you'd enjoy it...although you should probably purchase several gallons of lubricant beforehand ;)

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I'm sure you'd enjoy it...although you should probably purchase several gallons of lubricant beforehand ;)
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In Austin Power's voice: "Yes, please".

Although I do not think i will need the lubricant. No problem there. Just send me a line of earger and willing women. Hee-Haw!!!

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In Austin Power's voice: "Yes, please".

Although I do not think i will need the lubricant. No problem there. Just send me a line of earger and willing women. Hee-Haw!!!
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I gotta save some for myself, dude ::)  But first I gotta find them.

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In Austin Power's voice: "Yes, please".

Although I do not think i will need the lubricant. No problem there. Just send me a line of eager and willing women. Hee-Haw!!!
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I want some of those women too!

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Why am I not surprised that SEX with an exclamation point was started by Rice? ;D
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Madam, you wound me ::)

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...And as far as gay sex goes, to me its not sex its just flat out sin, because no one is born with a gay sexuality, it is simply something they choose to do , its is simply a sinful life style... End Quote

I respect your right to your opinion AND your religious beliefs; but I am forced by personal experiences to disagree.

I grew up with several friends, who were raised in two different families.  One was rich, never went to church, and had their father happily married to their mother.  There were 10 boys.  One family was poor, devoutly religious but never knew who their father was until their mom died.  That family had eight boys and one girl.

When the mother of the second family died in a car crash, it was discovered that their biological father was the (supposedly) faithful father of the first family.

Of the nineteen children with radically different upbringings, twelve of them were gay.  That's an agument in favor of a hereditary condition if I ever saw one.

Also, keep in mind that up until twenty years or so ago, most gay persons were forced to marry and produce children or risk their very lives.  As dangerous as it was (and still is) to be openly gay, I cannot believe that anyone would CHOOSE such a life.

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Sex was desighned by God for 3 reasons

1: Reproduction
2: A permanent bond between male and female ( not males and males , not females and females )
3: For Pleasure

And as far as gay sex goes, to me its not sex its just flat out sin, because no one is born with a gay sexuality, it is simply something they choose to do , its is simply a sinful life style, and just for the record i dont quite agree with oral sex either , so if you have to please use protection, but use wisdom and save it for your future God given husband or wife
Peace --- Ghetto John
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Sex was desighned by God for 3 reasons

1: Reproduction
2: A permanent bond between male and female ( not males and males , not females and females )
3: For Pleasure

And as far as gay sex goes, to me its not sex its just flat out sin, because no one is born with a gay sexuality, it is simply something they choose to do , its is simply a sinful life style, and just for the record i dont quite agree with oral sex either , so if you have to please use protection, but use wisdom and save it for your future God given husband or wife
Peace --- Ghetto John
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Gotta disagree too GJ !

A point to make to you - I am three times your age.  Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with your age, I was there once too !

My point is at 13 I didn't have the experience of life that I do now.

I didn't know what homosexuality was.  When I became aware of it, I was frightened by it.  When I was 13, (mid 70's) homosexuality was NOT a subject to be discussed.  At all.  Most adults simply pretended it didn't exist.

You are 13 in a more open time - whether or not it is an enlightened time is debateable....

Race and Rice (sounds like some comedy duo) have said it, and now I'm going to say it.

Please don't let yourself be guided to the extent where you ignore people who are different.  If I were to cut out of my life people who were different from me....let's make a quick list :

Homosexual/Bisexual
Ethnic Differences
Different Skin Colour

Just to name three common ideological current issues .....

I would be a very lonely person.  Not them, they would be okay.  It is me who would have the problem.

Getting back to my comment about our age differences, my point is this :  

You can swim as much as you want against the tide, you will only wear yourself out.  Many of my friends and work colleagues fall into such categories, including the category that inspired this response.  They are all nice people.  I would not want to be without them.  I have long since learned to look inside the book and not simply at the cover.

FB

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Sex was desighned by God for 3 reasons

1: Reproduction
2: A permanent bond between male and female ( not males and males , not females and females )
3: For Pleasure

And as far as gay sex goes, to me its not sex its just flat out sin, because no one is born with a gay sexuality, it is simply something they choose to do , its is simply a sinful life style, and just for the record i dont quite agree with oral sex either , so if you have to please use protection, but use wisdom and save it for your future God given husband or wife
Peace --- Ghetto John
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I'm glad I wasn't the first person to read and reply to this, or y'all would have found out while I'm called the Goreripper! Y'know what? Most of the gay couples I know have been together longer and are happier than many of the heterosexual people I know. Y'know what else, there is evidence to suggest that homosexual tendencies are apparent in other animals besides humans. Rats and mice often display homosexual behaviour and in fact, I had a male cat that used to try to mount the other male cats in my household. This would prove to me that a 'gay sexuality' is actually quite common. Indeed, in Ancient Greece, and in Rome until the rise of Christianity, it was considered normal for males to have male lovers. Taboos regarding homo- and bi-sexuality in Western culture have their roots in Judeo-Christian scripture. And as far as 'sex for pleasure' goes, isn't sex for pleasure alone called fornication? I thought that was a sin.

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I'm glad I wasn't the first person to read and reply to this, or y'all would have found out while I'm called the Goreripper! Y'know what? Most of the gay couples I know have been together longer and are happier than many of the heterosexual people I know. Y'know what else, there is evidence to suggest that homosexual tendencies are apparent in other animals besides humans. Rats and mice often display homosexual behaviour and in fact, I had a male cat that used to try to mount the other male cats in my household. This would prove to me that a 'gay sexuality' is actually quite common. Indeed, in Ancient Greece, and in Rome until the rise of Christianity, it was considered normal for males to have male lovers. Taboos regarding homo- and bi-sexuality in Western culture have their roots in Judeo-Christian scripture. And as far as 'sex for pleasure' goes, isn't sex for pleasure alone called fornication? I thought that was a sin.
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umm... im not 13

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I'm glad I wasn't the first person to read and reply to this, or y'all would have found out while I'm called the Goreripper! Y'know what? Most of the gay couples I know have been together longer and are happier than many of the heterosexual people I know. Y'know what else, there is evidence to suggest that homosexual tendencies are apparent in other animals besides humans. Rats and mice often display homosexual behaviour and in fact, I had a male cat that used to try to mount the other male cats in my household. This would prove to me that a 'gay sexuality' is actually quite common. Indeed, in Ancient Greece, and in Rome until the rise of Christianity, it was considered normal for males to have male lovers. Taboos regarding homo- and bi-sexuality in Western culture have their roots in Judeo-Christian scripture. And as far as 'sex for pleasure' goes, isn't sex for pleasure alone called fornication? I thought that was a sin.
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no im saying as pleasure between the man and the woman who were bonded in marriage.

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umm... im not 13
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I never said you were.

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I never said you were.
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Okay, no one else is going to do it, so I will play Devil's advocate here.

Some of you are doing the very same thing you accuse Ghetto John of doing. He offered his opinion that homosexuality is wrong, and that it is a choice that people make. Now then, most of you have refrained from being nasty, but at the same time the message he is getting is that he is wrong. I didn't think opinions could ever be wrong. I don't think he was trying to convince anyone that his opinion was right, he was just expressing it.

You know what? I know some gay people. I am friends with some gay people. You know what else? I disagree with their lifestyle, but they are free to live it. Does this make me one of the dim bulbs who needs to be enlightened? Mind you, I don't really care if it does, because if you think so then it is only your opinion.  ;)
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I think it's choosing to use words like "wrong" and "choice" that sets people off, Lester.  

People have taken action against these sinners who chose to be different -- up to and including torture and death.  Intolerance gets ugly sometimes.  
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You're correct, intolerance does get ugly sometimes, and it usually comes from a person's belief that they are right, whichever side of the issue they are on.  But I don't see how you can equate not agreeing with a particular lifestyle, or anything else, with intolerance. The two don't go hand in hand. I can see and completely agree with the exchange of ideas, with you or anyone else explaining to GJ why you have a differing opinion from his, but I don't think there is any reason to assume he is planning anything diabolical.

As a Christian, it is incumbent upon GJ to believe that homosexuality is wrong. It is a basic tenet of the religion. However, another tenet is that God does not hate the sinner, but rather the sin. Perhaps this is what GJ has not expressed properly. Or perhaps even this avowal would not be enough to satisfy.

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Hey WL,
Opinions can be wrong and it's not wrong to point that out. There are to many examples of opinions others may have that I could pose to you and you would agree with, that I won't bother to post.
GB is a decent person, I can tell that by his other posts, what he is though is young and ignorant, not a bad thing at all, cause youth leads to experiance and ignorance can be changed through those experiences, experiance such as input from this board.  

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I won't argue semantics with you over what an opinion is, but I will agree that there are some you could offer that I would agree with, and others you could offer that I would not.  But the rightness or wrongness is subjective, based solely on one's own experiences and beliefs.

I would also agree with your observations about youth. As we get older we gain experience and we learn things, see different viewpoints and alter our own according to how our environment affects us. I don't have a problem at all with you or anyone else explaining why your opinion is different... that is why these forums are here. But I also don't think GJ should be made to feel as though he is being ganged up on. Remember your own words... he is young.

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You're correct, intolerance does get ugly sometimes, and it usually comes from a person's belief that they are right, whichever side of the issue they are on.  But I don't see how you can equate not agreeing with a particular lifestyle, or anything else, with intolerance. The two don't go hand in hand. I can see and completely agree with the exchange of ideas, with you or anyone else explaining to GJ why you have a differing opinion from his, but I don't think there is any reason to assume he is planning anything diabolical.

As a Christian, it is incumbent upon GJ to believe that homosexuality is wrong. It is a basic tenet of the religion. However, another tenet is that God does not hate the sinner, but rather the sin. Perhaps this is what GJ has not expressed properly. Or perhaps even this avowal would not be enough to satisfy.
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Episcopal Bishop John Spong: "I regard the blessing of gay or lesbian couples by the church to be inevitable, right, and a positive good."

I guess Bishop Spong didn't get the basic tenet memo.  

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Episcopal Bishop John Spong: "I regard the blessing of gay or lesbian couples by the church to be inevitable, right, and a positive good."

I guess Bishop Spong didn't get the basic tenet memo.  
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So because this Bishop has an opinion that says one thing he is right, but because someone else has an opinion that says something else, they are wrong? He says he regards... that is his interpretation.  I daresay you will find other Episcopal Bishops who will take the exact opposite stance, because there is a big division within that church drawn down conservative/liberal lines.

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How can he become, and remain, a bishop in the Episcopalian church if he disagrees with a "basic tenet of Christianity"?
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I say this is a basic tenet of the Christian faith because it was a part of the religion from its founding. Obviously there have been splits within various denominations over the years over such issues as this, and the Episcopal church is one of them. I don't know anything about the Bishop you quoted, but I would wager that he is a member of the more liberal half of the Episcopalian church.

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NOW...onto to something a bit more immature...

Does Santa Claus have sex? I mean...think about it...he only works 1 day a year...he must get bored at the North Pole. you think he and Mrs. Claus are up there keeping it hot?   ;D
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If he did, the polar ice caps would melt and thousands of polar bears and elves would drown...

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NOW...onto to something a bit more immature...

Does Santa Claus have sex? I mean...think about it...he only works 1 day a year...he must get bored at the North Pole. you think he and Mrs. Claus are up there keeping it hot?   ;D
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Yeah,he only comes once a year. ;D :P -howard-

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Hmmmm..... I'm not trying to re-ignite the old argument, but has anyone ever seen any female elves?  
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Hey, Syncronos, you should send Steve the link about the Smurfs and why they're blue ;D

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But up in Northern Lapland with all his Elves and village-resident Eskimos, it gets a tad cold.
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Oh yeah, totally forgot about shrinkage there.

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Hmmmm..... I'm not trying to re-ignite the old argument, but has anyone ever seen any female elves?  
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Female elves? Hmm...yes, I have seen them. In Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer...I doubt they reproduce asexually...

But if elves have sex...that means there's elf porn and elf leather outfits and things...Cool!

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Female elves? Hmm...yes, I have seen them. In Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer...I doubt they reproduce asexually...

But if elves have sex...that means there's elf porn and elf leather outfits and things...Cool!
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Only if they have elf-internet and elf-credit cards....

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Elf porn...what a concept...
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I wonder if Richard and Wendi Pini know about this?  :P

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Add in: i should probally aplogize really quick about my comment on the Catholic Church i acted slightly out of anger, so im sorry about that what i mean to say was that i share no ties with the Catholic Church i just simply worded it wrong.
So Peace --- Ghetto John
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Why? I agree! Specifically with this statement you made:

Quoting:So there you have it Old Testamen And New testament my oppinion is not based on youthful Ignorance, but on Biblical knowledge. But i also remember someone talking about the Catholic Church, which is a church that believes you can pay your way out of hell or forgiveness comes through confessing to a priest , or that allows homosexuals to be their priest, any church who believes that , Episcopalian or what , is not right with God, Salvation comes through faith and not through works, And forgiveness comes through confessing and requesting forgiveness from God and no other. And as for Homo Sexuals being ordained priest, then well thats just completely out of Gods will so who is the God of the Catholic Church, in my OPPINION it is THE COLLECTIVE OPPINION OF MAN, NOT GOD , AND A GROUP OF MEN OR SORRY A MAN MORE COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE POPE! so there you have it im done ive voiced my final oppinion on the subject thank you and God bless. Peace Ghetto John.End Quote

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i just apologized because im afraid of starting another argument, i mean it seems that me being a christian with a voice isnt working out to good if you know what i mean that is?
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It's okay to voice your opinion, John.  Some people are just a little easier to tick off than others if you say something they don't like, but like Lester said, it's your opinion, and you'd better damn well be able to back it up because those people are gonna be breathing down your neck.

I may not agree with you, but I support your right to express your opinions.  :)

(I'm lurking again)  ;D

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Now then, most of you have refrained from being nasty, but at the same time the message he is getting is that he is wrong. I didn't think opinions could ever be wrong. I don't think he was trying to convince anyone that his opinion was right, he was just expressing it.
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Oh, he can have his opinions, but let me ask you this: When he decided to call the lifestyle of others as "sinful," what did he mean by that? Is a sinful lifestyle a good thing? Is it something... bad? Now, if he's commenting that I choose live a bad lifestyle; that I make sinful choices; that, somehow, God would not approve of me because of who I am inside and out; then, yes, he is very wrong - because he does not know me. He does not possess any facts to back it up with. He can also state the Earth is flat and that would be an opinion: A wrong opinion. He can also propose that interracial couples shouldn't be together and that would an opinion: A stupid opinion. Same goes for his comments on homosexuals.

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You know what? I know some gay people. I am friends with some gay people. You know what else? I disagree with their lifestyle, but they are free to live it. ;)
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I don't discriminate. Heck! I own a color TV! ;)

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And as for Santa and female Elve's, lets just say that the EEOC is investigating the situation.
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Aren't family businesses exempt from Equal Opportunity laws?  That is, mom-and-pop and the kids running a business with no outside help.

Reason:  Santa has been described more than once as "a jolly old elf".  Perhaps he and Mrs. Claus are the parents of the workforce? ;) ;) ;) ;)

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Aren't family businesses exempt from Equal Opportunity laws?  That is, mom-and-pop and the kids running a business with no outside help.

Reason:  Santa has been described more than once as "a jolly old elf".  Perhaps he and Mrs. Claus are the parents of the workforce? ;) ;) ;) ;)
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If they have at least 10 full time employees than Santa is required to equal hiring practices, elves and especailly female elves are a protected class. ;)
They are looking into Santa's taxes too, seems a bit odd the lavish spread he has and all his work brings in no measurable income. ;D

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I don't know, Race.  I haven't read Lapland's Constitution, and their employment practices might be different than ours.  
If Lapland's Constitution is similar to ours, I'd be interested to learn why Santa feels free to descriminate between the "naughty" and the "nice", and if there is an appeal process for the "naughty".

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I don't know, Race.  I haven't read Lapland's Constitution, and their employment practices might be different than ours.  
If Lapland's Constitution is similar to ours, I'd be interested to learn why Santa feels free to descriminate between the "naughty" and the "nice", and if there is an appeal process for the "naughty".
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There is actually a town in the state of Alaska, in the USA called "North Pole".

Hundreds of thousands of letters addressed to Santa Clause end up there every year.  If you send a letter, and it arrives during the first week of December, you will get an answering letter from "Santa".   You can also send all of your Christmas cards, (in sealed envelopes, with the proper postage) addressed to the local postmaster, who will then send them out for you, giving your cards a North Pole postmark.

This would mean Santa, and his elves come under the jurisdiction of the United States laws concerning labor issues, taxes, and pornography. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Sweet info, Kat, thanks!  :)

Uh-huh-huh-huh-huh...you said "pole"...

Shut up, Beavith!  Don't make me kick your ath!

*POW*  OW!  Bunghole  ;D

Speaking of sex, Julianne Moore is 42 today...still looks incredible

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I wonder though...do they have a sect of elves that only makes sex toys? Hmmm...

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Yes...these elves specialize in "Hail Marys" and "Our Fathers"

I don't know what that means but it sure sounds funny to me ;D

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There is actually a town in the state of Alaska, in the USA called "North Pole".

Hundreds of thousands of letters addressed to Santa Clause end up there every year.  If you send a letter, and it arrives during the first week of December, you will get an answering letter from "Santa".   You can also send all of your Christmas cards, (in sealed envelopes, with the proper postage) addressed to the local postmaster, who will then send them out for you, giving your cards a North Pole postmark.

This would mean Santa, and his elves come under the jurisdiction of the United States laws concerning labor issues, taxes, and pornography. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Since the location of Santas "compound" has been established the EEOC will be visiting as well as Affirmative Action, tell me, have you seen any Elves of Color? :o

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Does Gary Coleman count?

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I'll bet that nice grandmotherly figure is just an image- Santa is married to Mrs. Claus...who hasn't aged a day since he married her. She'd probably make Rice say

DANG!
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After all, Santa is the Hugh Hefner of the Far North...and you know them blondes come from da Far North...hello, nurse!

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Steve, allow me to explain my theory on Santa Claus.

Nowadays...I believe that Santa is the invisible force behind all the major toys companies...Mattel, Hasbro, etc. His elves (some disguised as humans) are running the companies, thereby distributing the toys to the children. Obviously, this method is less effective than the old one, as toys come in short supply (the Tickle-Me-Elmo shortage, the PS-2 crisis, etc). But, it is safer for all involved to do this rather than get arrested (or shot) for breaking and entering while creeping through someone's chimney.

So, seeing as Santa doesn't do much...his sex life HAS to be great
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Sooooo.... Santa Claus is Warren Buffet?  That explains a lot!

The PS-2 and the Tickle Me Elmo crises? Yeah, right...  ;) ;) ;) (that was an artificial shortage choregraphed by the Trilateral Commission, the only force in the world Buff...oops, Santa Claus, stands in awe of. )

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http://www.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/12/05/extramarital.sex.reut/index.html

Be faithful!  Having an affair could be hazardous to your health ;)
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After all, Santa is the Hugh Hefner of the Far North...and you know them blondes come from da Far North...hello, nurse!
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It makes Santa say:

"ho,ho,ho,ho...oh,oh,oh,oh"! ;D

howard :D

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It makes Santa say:

"ho,ho,ho,ho...oh,oh,oh,oh"! ;D

howard :D
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We need to get a picture of Santa's "OH!" face ;D

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It appears that the whole Santa as a sexy centerfold may be true! Check it out!

http://www.lifeisajoke.com/pictures365_html.htm


 ;) ;D ;)
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Thanks, I needed a good laugh :)

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It appears that the whole Santa as a sexy centerfold may be true! Check it out!

http://www.lifeisajoke.com/pictures365_html.htm


 ;) ;D ;)
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Ok, now THAT was just WAAAAAAAAAAY wrong.   :o  I'm gonna go gouge out my eyes now...

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It appears that the whole Santa as a sexy centerfold may be true! Check it out!

http://www.lifeisajoke.com/pictures365_html.htm


 ;) ;D ;)
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Oh, Shazzaah

Oh, thanks  :-/ :)