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Yet another sign of the Apocalypse...I can see the four horsemen bearing down on me now...

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The Bengals are wretched, and have been for a decade.  What's the problem with them?  I mean, every team seems to bob up every five or six years and makes a serious run at respectability.  The Bengals seem mired in some type of Bermuda Triangle...
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Until Brown sells, or is forced to sell, the team, its going to stay the way it is. SI recently had an article about the worst owners of pro sports teams ever, and he was right at the top along with the idiot that owns the Golden State Warriors.

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The Bengals are wretched, and have been for a decade.  What's the problem with them?  I mean, every team seems to bob up every five or six years and makes a serious run at respectability.  The Bengals seem mired in some type of Bermuda Triangle...
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Hey Steve, don't forget the Seahawks, we are definatley sharing that triangle with the Bengals. :'(

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Please...nobody can be as awful as the Bengals.

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Please...nobody can be as awful as the Bengals.
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Being from Minnesota, I'm developing an interest in next year's draft.  If it weren't for the cursed Bengals I think we'd be in good shape for the top pick.  Who's gonna be the number one pick next year?
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Byron Leftwich from Marshall

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If he were to forgo his senior year (Hopefully he decides to stay), I'd give the nod to RB Chris Brown from Colorado ;)

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Are the Raiders still in the league?

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Hey R&RF, I see that the Broncos play the Raiders this Monday.  I don't think Griese will be throwing towards Woodson anytime during the game.  He sure didn't last game.
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I hope Shanahans record against Cokeland goes to 15 and 2  ;)

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I hope Shanahans record against Cokeland 15 and 2  ;)
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Don't you mean Chokeland, Mark? ;)
Final score:
Indianapolis 35, Philadelphia 13. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Congrats, Indy.  I've started hearing rumblings about Manning, so it's nice to see him come out with a strong game.  

The Vikings stumbled again today.  Daunte Culpepper was pulled in the third quarter, and you're hearing him being compared to Kordell Stewart more and more often.  Todd Bouman came in and mini-sparked the offense.  Not enough to win, mind you, but enough to start a controversy.  
We don't have a defensive secondary.

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Congrats, Indy.  I've started hearing rumblings about Manning, so it's nice to see him come out with a strong game.  

The Vikings stumbled again today.  Daunte Culpepper was pulled in the third quarter, and you're hearing him being compared to Kordell Stewart more and more often.  Todd Bouman came in and mini-sparked the offense.  Not enough to win, mind you, but enough to start a controversy.  
We don't have a defensive secondary.
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Don't you mean Chokeland, Mark? ;)
Final score:
Indianapolis 35, Philadelphia 13. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Thanks for coming up with that better nickname for those thugs!  BTW...congats to you on the Indy Win ;)

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Thanks for coming up with that better nickname for those thugs!  BTW...congats to you on the Indy Win ;)
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It's a clever nickname :)  I live near Oakland and I'd root for them but they haven't yet earned my respect this year...we'll see if that changes come Monday Night.  You ready to rumble, Rock?   ;D

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You know it, RC ;)

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I'm gald Manning had the game he is capable of making every game.
As for a quarterback controversy, while it is true that Culpepper is not the player he was in his rookie year, the fault for the Vikings woes has to be Owner Red McCombs and "Coach" Mike Tice, who apparently was the only one McCombs could afford. He, Dallas Cowboy skipper Dave Campo, and the Bungles' Dick LeBeau have got to be the worst coaches in the NFL, and are the top candidates for getting the axe. :(
BTW, Todd Boumann is not the answer. If the Rams can part with either Warner or Bulger, then the Vikes should give up on the ones they have now. And Ken Dorsey isn't the savior either.

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I don't think any of the brain trust are ready to give up on Culpepper yet.  He was fantastic a couple of years ago.  Now he's totally lost... They're still talking about him as the franchise quarterback.  Culpepper's decline started with the retirement of Robert Smith and the hemorrhage of talent from the offensive line.  McKinnie might be the answer, but not this year -- (he is one seriously big hombre :o)

The Vike's need help in the secondary desperately, but they seem institutionally unable to pull the trigger for defensive help in the first round.  If they continue to stumble this year, and there's no reason to believe they won't, they should have many attractive options come draft day.

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The Jets still have hope! 4-5 and they have a shot at winning the division. Unheard of. How about the Giants. Big game next week against the Redskins. This season is unbelievable so far. This is the most competitive NFL season ever but I think in the end the Packers are going to win but you never you know. That 1 year Minnesota went 15-1 and lost to the Falcons in the playoffs so you never know.
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Steelers snatch a tie from the jaws of victory. ::)
Pittsburgh-34  Atlanta-34
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But at least Tommy Maddox, a former Bronco throw-away is doing way better than former Buff, Kordell Stewart.

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It's a clever nickname :)  I live near Oakland and I'd root for them but they haven't yet earned my respect this year...we'll see if that changes come Monday Night.  You ready to rumble, Rock?   ;D
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So what you're saying is you're a bandwagon jumper?

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Well, it looks like the Broncos are going down to defeat tonight. I hope RockandRollFan isn't too disappointed. I do think that this is what Oakland needed to save their season. Better luck in Seattle, Mark. :(
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Northern California, represent!  :D

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WOOHOO! ;D

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Northern California, represent!  :D
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LOFL!

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Guess who the Colts play at the Dome tomorrow? The dreaded Cowardboys of Dallas and Emmitt Smith, the all-time leading rusher.(Yuck!) Go Colts, again. ;)
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Yeah, but they ain't letting Smith touch the "rock" no more after he busted Payton's record.
Speaking of domes, the cheeseheads have crossed the border and liquor sales are WAY up.  Favre has had middling to poor success at the Metrodome, (oops.... forgot.... it's Metrodome, without the 'the') and there's a die hard at work who thinks we'll be able to catch the Packers "flat footed".  My guess is that the Vikes get buried and lose by at least 30 points.  Favre has got to be one of the five top players of all time.

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DENVER BRONCOS 31 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS 9

Great game, and a nice rebound after last Mondays debacle ;)
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Hey..a wins a win, right?  ;)
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not when it's a lame-ass field goal in overtime, which is what SD did to SF, winning 20-17...I hate the NFL overtime format.

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not when it's a lame-ass field goal in overtime, which is what SD did to SF, winning 20-17...I hate the NFL overtime format.
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I hear ya...I wish they would do it like college does....

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I hear ya...I wish they would do it like college does....
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No overtime in Oakland, as the Raiders defeat the Patriots 27-20 :)

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No overtime in Oakland, as the Raiders defeat the Patriots 27-20 :)
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Yeah, yeah...  Rub it in...

We'll meet again, damn you!

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My friend says college also allows FGs in overtime, even though it's not sudden death.  Is this correct?   ???



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Each team gets the ball on the same end of the field on the 35 yard line going in. If the first team scores (regardless of how; touchdown,one point ex point or 2, field goal) the other team must match or beat it (ie if  team#1 scores a field goal, team #2 can score a touchdown and win the game there) If they score (or not) equal points, they start over with team #1 again. After the 2nd overtime, they must go for 2 points on conversions after touchdowns. WHEW!! ::) Hope this answers your question, Rice. ;)

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Yeah, yeah...  Rub it in...

We'll meet again, damn you!
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/2002/1117/1462138.html

Hey Indy...looks like the Horsies are making some history after all.

And, at press time, GB and MN are tied at 21...we'll see how it pans out :)

UPDATE: MN has won, 31-21...
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Bulger has 110+ yards passing in the FIRST QUARTER.  That's madness.  This guy is for real.
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COLTS 23 BRONCOS 20  OT

Now maybe people can stop b*tching about Griese? The Colts played good enough to win and I want to be the first to congratulate IndyGent on the win ;)
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I hope the Broncos do win the division over the Raiders and Chargers. And I hope the Colts make it into the playoffs too (and beat the Titans in their backyard as well.)  :)

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Oh, a pox on BOTH your houses!!!  ;)

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The world will only end if the Bucs win.  If they only make it there, then pigs will fly, but the world will still be around.

Philly vs. SF tonight.  Let's root for Philly!

Final: Philly 38, SF 17

And Oakland claims Bay Area supremacy by default ;)

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The world will only end if the Bucs win.  If they only make it there, then pigs will fly, but the world will still be around.

Philly vs. SF tonight.  Let's root for Philly!

Final: Philly 38, SF 17

And Oakland claims Bay Area supremacy by default ;)
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I dunno, John.  I think Sanders would help, but the Lions need a major overhaul.  
Sanders must be one of the most enigmatic athletes of his generation.  He's within spitting distance of a major record and he ups and quits.  
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I think part of it was that the organization wasn't treating the man right, Steve...and to Barry, I guess personal dignity was more important than a record he knew he could've had anyway.

Anyone know why only the Lions and the Cowboys get Thanksgiving home games?

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Anyone know why only the Lions and the Cowboys get Thanksgiving home games?
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My guess is they both lose. That is sad. The Lions and the Cowboys used to be great games on Bird day! I want them to have good teams again, at least 8-8. I do not want to have a "gimmie" on Thanksgiving. Does anyone rememeber the Madden 10 legged bird? I guess they are not having it this Thanksgiving.

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My guess is they both lose. That is sad. The Lions and the Cowboys used to be great games on Bird day! I want them to have good teams again, at least 8-8. I do not want to have a "gimmie" on Thanksgiving. Does anyone rememeber the Madden 10 legged bird? I guess they are not having it this Thanksgiving.
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Emmitt Smith showed he still has some legs left though...Dallas, 27-20


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... and Kurt Warner is more than halfway through yet another ineffective outing.  What happened to him?
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1)  He came back after five weeks of relative inactivity

2)  Philly's defense is that good

3)  His deal with the Devil has expired.


PS - I just checked the stats online, he has almost 200 yards passing thru the 3rd quarter...not ineffective on his part, he's just not finding the end zone :-/

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As of now, Denver and SD are tied in overtime, and if they win on a field goal I am calling the league and telling them to change the overtime format RIGHT NOW.  Winning on a field goal in overtime is the pansiest way to win a football game I know.  Maybe it's just me, but how about a challenge, huh?

Alright, it's cool, the Broncs turned it over or something (I'm following this online).  And of course SD wins on a field goal.  SD 30, Denver 27.  That shouldn't even be a win.  What a bunch of pansies.  I hate field goals in overtime.  Did I say that already?

They should make a rule that if you elect to use a field goal in overtime, that it automatically gives the other team a possession to tie or win.  Field goals are so lame.  *rant rant rant rant*
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 If you do want to make a case for touchdowns, then you might as well do what the colleges and high school teams do and start from the 20 yard line. That is if you'd rather see TDs back and forth until there's a winner. :-/

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It's certainly a sight more exciting than watching the field goal unit trot onto the field.  

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It's certainly a sight more exciting than watching the field goal unit trot onto the field.  
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And the Colts did win, defeating Houston 19-3. It wasn't impressive, but then again they are rarely impressive at the Dome. So now it's off to Nashville to avenge the Dome loss to the Titans. And I, for one, am sick of the Colts losing to these pretenders. To the Colts' defense: Let's send Airhead McNair,  Eddie "Phyllis" George and the rest of these chumps a message that the Colts are for real.  ;D

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With Miami's loss to the Bills today, the Pats are now tied for 1st in that division.  THIS is turning into a tight damn race.  God, I love this time of year!
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My Broncos.....Portis should be Rookie Of The Year
The season hinges on the Oakland game
Yesterday they played pretty good but the Chargers likely are playoff bound....congrats to everyone who's teams won this week ;)
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Raiders 26, Jets 20

In other news, Gannon is still on pace to throw for a bazillion yards.  ;D
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Moss belongs on a team like the Raiders... or on the second shift at the metal stamping machine on Rykers Island...but, even Mother Teresa would be throwing a sideline fit if she was that open that often and your franchise qb doesn't even see you, much less chuck the rock your way
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Don't want him.  Rice and Brown are going to play until their kneecaps disintegrate before that will ever happen.

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Actually, I think Moss would fit in with the Raiders, that is their fans in the stands. I have seen some crazy looking people in the Raiders stadium.

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Actually, I think Moss would fit in with the Raiders, that is their fans in the stands. I have seen some crazy looking people in the Raiders stadium.


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Maybe we can burn him in effigy before every game...oh wait, I guess that's only a one-time deal.

I usually sit away from the weirdos...because I have to go to the nosebleeds, where the stoners dwell and where you can get a really mad contact high ;)  Bad view of the Raiderettes though :(

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Well, folks, for fantasy reasons let hope Tommy Maddox comes back 100%, Jerome Bettis is able to breath through his plexiglass faceshield and broken nose, and that the Atlanta defense is able to hold back the pathetic Buc offense.
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And for Rock and Roll Fan's sake, that Brian Griese comes back 100% too.

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Keeping my fingers crossed today, Indy ;)

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Keeping my fingers crossed today, Indy ;)
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Just final: Indianapolis 17, Tennessee 27.
Rats, the Titans clinch the tiebreaker. :(

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And Indy loses to the Titans for the second time this year...

Happy Sunday everybody... >:(
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and how did CAROLINA score 52 points?  Carolina....
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The Cincinnati Bung, er, Bengals make any team look good…

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The Cincinnati Bung, er, Bengals make any team look good…
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Chiefs 49  Rams 10

Sorry Lester!! Maybe I can make it up to you somehow!!!  ;D
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It's ok... I think both our teams will be watching the Super Bowl from home this year anyway!!  ;D

But you can still make it up to me if you want.  ;)

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Steve said something about Charles Woodson being traded from Oakland for Randy Moss.  Steve, if you have any clout with the Vikes at all, tell them we don't want Moss.  Moss sucks.  I will personally toss the herbicide on Moss if he comes within 200 miles of Oakland.
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What are you talking about, Earl?  Moss is the Greatest Athlete in Football, and the linchpin of whatever success the Vikings hope to have in the future.  The Vikings will never trade the Superfreak...

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What are you talking about, Earl?  Moss is the Greatest Athlete in Football, and the linchpin of whatever success the Vikings hope to have in the future.  The Vikings will never trade the Superfreak...
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Something you PMed me about John Clayton saying something about a trade between Oakland and Minnesota.  I could swear it's past the trade deadline anyway...whatever, Oakland's still going to the Super Bowl, Moss or not.

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Who's John Clayton?
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You are a bad, bad man, Steve ;)

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WHo...the Dolphins or the Canes?
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But you can still make it up to me if you want.  ;)
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Maybe we can work out a date/time to take care of that!   ;)

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I'll work my mojo on the Chiefs and Colts, R&R and IG.  
On the other hand, here's hoping the Vikings are able to lose their last three and head into the '03 draft in decent shape.  Away at the Saints and home for the Dolphins shouldn't be too difficult.  I'm worried about the Lions at Pontiac, though.  The Vikings might eke out one more win this year...  :(
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Thanks for the well wishes for Denver, Steve...uh, here's to the Vikes losing ??? ;)

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I'll work my mojo on the Chiefs and Colts, R&R and IG.  
On the other hand, here's hoping the Vikings are able to lose their last three and head into the '03 draft in decent shape.  Away at the Saints and home for the Dolphins shouldn't be too difficult.  I'm worried about the Lions at Pontiac, though.  The Vikings might eke out one more win this year...  :(
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Thanks for the mojo Steve. But you have the wrong team for R&R. The Chefs are in KC. Mark lives in Colorado ;)

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Oops.  Ought not to be casting that mojo around without checking the list twice.  (I hope this doesn't mean mojo is upset and sends me a Viking victory)

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Bad mojo working on the Vikings.  They were never going to challenge the chronically inept Bengals, though.  

Too bad about Oakland, Earl (Did you notice, by the way, that Randy Moss scored two touchdowns...http://www.click-smilie.de/sammlung/sport/sport021.gif
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Yes, but long after his inept team were eliminated from playoff contention.  What timing :P

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Indy beat Cleveland in a come-from-behind victory.  Congrats, Indy Gent.
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Thanks Rice. Just remember the Colts have to win out to have a serious shot at the Super Bowl. Neither the Giants nor Jags are rolling over, so Marvin Harrison has to pad his records. Our own special teams nearly killed us today. :-/

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Yes...By all means, congatulations Indy!

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Yes...By all means, congatulations Indy!
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And congratulations to your Broncos, who edged Kansas City again. And a small congrats to Steve's Minnesota Vikings, who won at New Orleans with a gutsy two-point conversion. Too bad they're still 4-10.
And the final score in the Colts game:
Indianapolis 28,  Cleveland 23






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Thanks to Indy's Colts for knocking off the Browns and giving my Steelers a little breathing room at the top of the AFC North.(I still haven't gotten used to these new divisions ::))

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And a small congrats to Steve's Minnesota Vikings, who won at New Orleans with a gutsy two-point conversion. Too bad they're still 4-10.


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Believe it or not, that Viking victory was as satisfying as a World Series win.  

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Believe it or not, that Viking victory was as satisfying as a World Series win.  
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I applaud them for having the balls to go for the win instead of O.T.  http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons/35.gif

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You know, IG, I can't remember the last time I've heard the Cincinnati team referred to as either the Bungles or "the bungling Bengals".  
Good luck, Indianapolis... :)
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Final score:

Giants 44, Colts 27

I do believe the Bengals are going to win another game if they don't screw it up!
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Sorry Indy.  But guess who won the AFC West for the third straight year?  :D

That's right...

Raiders 28, Broncos 16

Werd ;D
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I'm banging my head against the desk today, after seeing that the Pats lost again, when they had the chance to take it away from Miami.

God, it's so frustrating being a Pats fan...
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Hey TV9, I think they still have a ghost's chance in hell if they beat Miami and Indy loses again...the playoff formula is complicated, you can read about it on espn...but for whatever reason they might hold some random tie-breaker over Miami if the right things happen and the planets collide.

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If anyone has seen Dude, tell him his Steelers won tonight on the road.
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Like I didn't know that Indy. ;) My boys played up to the potential of the team they were playing (as usual) ::) When their on, they can beat anyone in the league.........thats just it though.....when their on. Bring on the playoffs!!

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Like I didn't know that Indy. ;) My boys played up to the potential of the team they were playing (as usual) ::) When their on, they can beat anyone in the league.........thats just it though.....when their on. Bring on the playoffs!!
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AND it sure was great seeing the Immaculate Reception on it's 30th anniversary....I remember watching it back then and I still enjoy it as much today :D

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AND it sure was great seeing the Immaculate Reception on it's 30th anniversary....I remember watching it back then and I still enjoy it as much today :D
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Poor ol' Madden still hasn't gotten over that has he? ;D
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The rules at the time said if it hit an opposing player touches the ball first then the offensive guy caught it....well, John may not be over it but I'm sure if the situation were reversed he wouldn't mind a bit...I cite as examples....The "Holy Roller", the partial deflating of footballs before the opposing team attempted a field goal, the illegal use of "Stick'em" by the safeties...the illegal hit on Lynn Swan in a playoff game where he was knocked out the week before SuperBowl X-vs the Cowpies, and by far the worst...George Atkisons book "They Call Me Assasin" being out just after he paralyzed Patroit reciever Daryll Stingley in 1976 with yet another illegal hit....why weren't those thugs put in jail (I know...it's Football, not ballet).  That only scratches the surface as to why I hate the raiders...oh and let's not forget the "Man" and I use the term loosely, who sat by and enjoyed all of this...Al "The Slime" Davis.  I watched a special about the 70's a while back on ESPN that exposed the mentality of some of these neanderthals...Phil Villapiano was bragiing about how the Raiders had beaten the Steelers in the 1976-77 AFC Championship game, failing of course to mention that Pittsburgh was without thier starting backfield of Franco harris and Rocky Blier, due to injury, he goes on to show his ring and says whenever he visits Pittsburgh on business he proudly shows it off.  Well he may have 1 but the Steelers won 4 in a 6 year span! Also, as far as AFC Championships...the Steelers beat the raiders twice and lost only the one.  Wow that felt good to let out :D

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Can someone tell me what kind of a world we live in where the Patriots can win their game, have the same record as their opponents, have a better PF/G ratio, win their final game in OT like that, and STILL not even get a wild card spot?

I'm so depressed....   :'(

(I understand the tie-breaker rules, it's just so damned haert-breaking.  I SO wanted to see them defend their title)
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Can someone tell me what kind of a world we live in where the Patriots can win their game, have the same record as their opponents, have a better PF/G ratio, win their final game in OT like that, and STILL not even get a wild card spot?

I'm so depressed....   :'(

(I understand the tie-breaker rules, it's just so damned haert-breaking.  I SO wanted to see them defend their title)
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I know I've said this before but...it's even worse in college Football...Last year when Colorado won the Big 12 North and then the championship...Nebraska (Which they destroyed 62-36) got to play for the National Championship....try and figure THAT one out ::)

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How about an all Pennsyvania Super Bowl?
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I could dig it!! ;)

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Just what we need: a Super Bowl XIII rematch. ::)
And the exact same records as that one to boot.
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I think you meant XV...13 was Pittsbugh over the cowpies...which I thoroughly enjoyed!  15 is one that I missed (First one I'd missed since Super Bowl V when the Baltimore Colts beat the cowpies) as I was in college and was "Occupied"  ;) I did manage to lose a $20 bet that I had on the Eagles to win though ::)

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Man, I so thought they were going to crack the shutout...but of course Manning tosses an INT inside the red zone...sigh.  Maybe they'll get another chance.
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Lordy.  Packer fans are such rubes.  I'm listening to the Green Bay radio streamcast, and at half time the announcers are... well, stunned and disbelieving.  They seem really worried about the crowd, who they describe as "cold and ugly."  The Packers "have to do something," they say.  
Forty thousand large, cold and extremely inebriated rubes...
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Most of whom, in addition to being hardcore fans, also own stock in the Green Bay Packers organization, so I guess in this case it's justified :)

Philly, on the other hand...well, we'll just wait till next week :D

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Uh, that's non-tradeable stock, Earl.  The rubes don't own part of the team when they buy the stock.
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Regardless, GB just scored, so perhaps the "stockholders" shall be somewhat placated for now.

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If there is any quarterback who I'd want in this situation, it's Farve.  The other guy can have Montana or Elway and we can make a game of it, but I'll take Favre anyday.
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Those guys are all good.  I'd prefer a multi-dimensional QB like a Steve Young though...someone who isn't dependent on the pocket.

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Lets here it for two boys from ny neck of the woods (Chad Pennington and Michael Vick)!! Now the only thing that would complete the weekend is a Steelers blowout at the "Big Ketchup Bottle"!
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Here We Go Steelers, Here We Go!

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I hate to rattle on the Pack but:
Hooray, Atlanta! The Lambeau Field playoff jinx is all but dead. Good luck Michael Vick and Co. in Philly. ;)
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Sorry about Indy....Indy :(

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I'm sorry about the Colts too, Indy.  And, becoming alert to the fact that Manning is beginning to gain a rep for being a one-and-out quarterback.  
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Just like every Colt quarterback that's ever played here. At least I never saw Marino pass for less than 150 in a playoff game. ::) And Marvin had his worst game even IMHO.
As for Edge, I think it's time we drafted an offensive lineman in April because he can't (or won't) run into defenders like he use to.

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Browns-14   Steelers-0   as I write.  The strangeness continues.

I read an ESPN magazine article by and about EJames.  It was infuriating and illuminating at the same time (granted, it was written almost a year ago now).  
What struck me was the whine he kept up about re-negotiating his contract.  The contract he was playing under when this was written was incentive laden, so he said that he had to put personal goals ahead of team goals (i.e., I'm going to try to score a touchdown rather than run time off the clock, no matter what the game conditions dictate).  The story almost made you feel sympathy for him.  Almost.

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Alright, 39-38, 49ers...Giants at the SF 47 yard line, 20 seconds left...if they make it closer, they have a chance to win the game on a FG...if not, well, it's a 65-yarder, woo!

Okay, 15 seconds left, they're at the 28 now...one shot at the end zone, then a 45 yarder or so...the suspense is killing me!

6 seconds left!  They're on the 23!

It's a miracle!  The 49ers have won!
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It's a miracle that wasn't called pass interference at the end.... ::)

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It's a miracle that wasn't called pass interference at the end.... ::)
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It was called.  But another foul was called against the Giants simultaneously.  Game over.

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What is up with Shaun Williams fighting with Terrell Owens?
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My boys got exploited in their pass defense (or lack thereof) by a team in their own division but once again, "Steeler tenacity" won out in the end!! ;D
I was just glad to see two great, competitive games after those two blowouts Saturday. That fiasco at the end of the Giants - Niners game ruined an otherwise great comeback. It was just todays atheletes showing their true colors and class. It was said best in "North Dallas Fourty".........."Buncha high school!!"

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It was called.  But another foul was called against the Giants simultaneously.  Game over.
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Actually it wasn't called because he was an inelligible receiver...or so it was explained to me. All I know is that I'm still :'( in my beer that my Giants are done.

Oh yeah, and a final Goodbye to Bryant..good luck trying to find a kicking job now buddy...

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Oh yeah, and a final Goodbye to Bryant..good luck trying to find a kicking job now buddy...
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It's gotta get snapped and held before it gets kicked.

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It's gotta get snapped and held before it gets kicked.
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So true.  The whole special teams unit screwed up.

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It's a miracle that wasn't called pass interference at the end.... ::)
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You're probably right, and the NFL powers-that-be agree too...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2003/playoffs/news/2003/01/06/niners_error_ap/

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Thanks to Earl's timely posting I was ahead of all the other kid's at work viz Favre's non-retirement.  
Thank you, Earl  ;D
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No problem dude.  Maybe next year he'll get that coveted Super Bowl ring (even though he has one already) and retire on top, a la Elway :)

Unless, of course, the Vikings get their act together ::)

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It's gotta get snapped and held before it gets kicked.
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True enough...but what was his excuse the rest of the season?  He started off with a bang and then fizzled miserably!

And now it turns out the NFL has said that the Giants should have had one more "untimed down" as he WAS an eligible receiver and that a game can not end on offsetting penalties. It should have gone back to the original line of scrimmage and they should have been able to try the FG again. I assume he woulda missed again, however that will never be known...now who do I cheer for?

Go Eagles? (I have friends in Philly...yep, I have friends...)

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I'm still mad about that call that went against Oakland last year in New England...I guess they'll be kvetching about it for years ::)
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That is, until the Raiders win the Super Bowl.

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Maybe in a couple weeks ;)

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Each of us took one upset. Mine was the Jets over the Raiders.  Sorry, Earl, but this is their year, and their offense is hitting its stride and running on all cylinders.   Pa-Pa-Pa-Penny and the Jets   ;D
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Blasphemy ;)  We'll see this weekend though.

Da Raiders ain't exactly the Colts :)

OH SNAP!  OhooooohHOOOOOOOOO SNAP!
Aw no you din'nt!  ;D

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Here's the bets I made for week two of the playoffs.  Five bucks a game:

Each of us took one upset. Mine was the Jets over the Raiders.  Sorry, Earl, but this is their year, and their offense is hitting its stride and running on all cylinders.   Pa-Pa-Pa-Penny and the Jets   ;D

Jacques, my rube opponent, chose the Falcons over the Eagles as his upset game.  Vick might be streaked lightning, but a real defense (like, say, the Bucs), are able to shut him down.  And when you shut down Vick, you shut down the Falcons.

Finally, I took the 'Niners and five points against the Buccaneers.  The 'Niners have some serious nitro on offense.  Still, my guess is the Bucs will just squeak by, say.... ummmm.... 19-17.
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That makes three of us, Indy.  Couldn't wager on that game cause we both think the Steelers have it in the bag.

Course, I'll take the Steelers if you give me... um... 3-1/2   ;D  
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That is, until the Raiders win the Super Bowl.

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If THAT happens I may just join Alec Baldwin and Rosie by leaving the country! OMG, WHAT am I Saying?! :P

As for the game predictions...I'll say:

Eagles  27         Pittsburgh 35
Falcons 21        Tennessee 31
and Sunday:

Tampa Bay 23                     New York Jets 38
San Francisco 20                 Oakland         33
==============================================We'll see if I'm foolish or not :D

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and Sunday:

Tampa Bay 23                     New York Jets 38
San Francisco 20                 Oakland         33
==============================================We'll see if I'm foolish or not :D
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Oh ye of little faith ::)

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Oh ye of little faith ::)
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Hey, I have plenty of faith...in the Jets...and talking about divine intervention...THAT is what SF recieved last weekend against the Giants ::) Good Luck to you anyway though, RiceCube ;)....OMG  AS I speak...the refs decide another game....Pittsburgh just got SCREWED... Hey, Nedny...can you say...FLOP >:(

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The Titans win by 3 points, so my bet is a push  ;D
And the Eagles bury the Falcons, as I predicted...
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I thought you asked for a 3.5 spread, so if the Steelers lost and the Titans didn't cover...hmmm  ::)

I wouldn't call it buried.  Both teams were inept in ways that I wouldn't have imagined.

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Sorry, Mark, but I have to agree with the refs on the Pittsburgh game. It was obvious the defender did run into the Tennessee kicker, and Bill Cowher is one of the biggest whiners in football. I hope this doesn't make you think any less of me. I'm still smarting from the last Colts-Titans game where a potential Colt punt return for a TD was erased by instant replay. (At least Jim Mora never had been shutout during his coaching career with the Colts. >:()
  The Falcons definitely shot themselves in the foots. Their penalties decided the game, not the Eagles.  

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I wil never think less of you IndyGent, you are my friend.  Having time to sleep on it and calm down..I agree with you AND Dude, but can I STILL b*tch about that Forty-Niner "Win" last week?  That WAS the refs who handed them the win >:(

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I wil never think less of you IndyGent, you are my friend.  Having time to sleep on it and calm down..I agree with you AND Dude, but can I STILL b*tch about that Forty-Niner "Win" last week?  That WAS the refs who handed them the win >:(
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Thats wild because upon further review I think DeWayne Washinton bumping into Nedney was incidental contact and Nedney should get the "Best Actor Oscar". >:( To have that good of a game decided on a call that had nothing to do with his missing the kick (not to mention the fact that Jason Gildon had told the umpire that they were going to call timeout 5 seconds before the snap) and not being award the timeout.....................When they shot off the fireworks on the first kick that didn't count, and then he missed the second one altogether, I told my baby "Maybe it's destiny that we win this one." But NOOOOOOOOO!!

Oh yeah, and losing the game in OT without even touching the ball, sucked too. >:(  OK, thats it, thanks for letting me get that off my chest. I won't do like Cowher and whine anymore (until next year) ;)

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Well, it looks like it's the Bucs vs. the Eagles for the NFC championship.  The Bucs are leading 31-6 with over 2½ minutes to go and have just picked off Garcia…
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Pfft.  The 49ers didn't even try.

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but can I STILL b*tch about that Forty-Niner "Win" last week?  That WAS the refs who handed them the win >:(
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I ferverently pray it's Tampa-Tennessee, ever though I don't think both road teams will win next week. As for the Davis/Gruden stories, would you rather hear McNabb-Gannon stories? Not me!
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Sports reporting is the most monotonous "profession" ever.  I hate sports cliches and tired quotes ("We just didn't execute and score as many points as the other team").  I just say let the best team win, and if it's the Raiders, more power to them ;)

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  As for Dude, you are entitled to your opinion as you are biased for your team. The fact is the refs made the correct call and the Coach should not complain. Wouldn't you feel the same if the Tennessee defender ran into the Steeler kicker?  ???
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A rule's a rule.  Remember the Snow Bowl last year?  ::)

"Tuck rule" my @$$.

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I just say let the best team win, and if it's the Raiders, more power to them ;)
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I'll admit the Raiders got screwed last year, but, as I asked Dude, what if your team benefitted from the "Tuck" rule? ??? ;)

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A rule's a rule.  Remember the Snow Bowl last year?  ::)

"Tuck rule" my @$$.

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Ergo, a rule's a rule
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But it's our right to b!tch and whine and moan about it until the ends of time ;D
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The Colts need to teach Manning how NOT to throw INTs...

So, Bucs-Eagles and Titans-Raiders.  What's your bet?
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Hell freezes over.  The Bucs in the Super Bowl?  Pfft.

But I'd sure like to see it, despite the end of the world as we know it ;)

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Let's just all hope Hairspray leaves this thread open through the Super Bowl :-/
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Indy has a new one actually...it's down there somewhere.  If you want you can start posting there and we will follow, but there's no sense wasting a good thread that has done us good all season long ;)

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Bucs-Eagles!

Titans-Raiders!

We got a doozy of a Sunday, folks!

I'm rooting for the Bucs and the Raiders ;)

More as details emerge...
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Like I told Jessica last night....Denver is 2-4 in "The Big Game" and so I want the Raiders to make it then lose...to drop thier Super Bowl record to 3-2...if they play the Eagles then Philly gets a chance to avenge the trouncing they absorbed in #XV...and if they play the Bucs...Chucky can beat his old team....he IS one heck of a coach!

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Like I told Jessica last night....Denver is 2-4 in "The Big Game" and so I want the Raiders to make it then lose...to drop thier Super Bowl record to 3-2...if they play the Eagles then Philly gets a chance to avenge the trouncing they absorbed in #XV...and if they play the Bucs...Chucky can beat his old team....he IS one heck of a coach!
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I think if the Raiders did lose, their Super Bowl record would also be 2-4...but again, O ye of little faith ;)

Oh, Tampa is up 10-7.  Go figure.

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I think if the Raiders did lose, their Super Bowl record would also be 2-4...but again, O ye of little faith ;)

Oh, Tampa is up 10-7.  Go figure.
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well...as far as I know the Raiders lost Super Bowl 2 and then won XI, XV and XVIII ;)