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Subject: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/21/02 at 09:45 a.m.

Now a 15 year old girl, who new my son Randall, and was starting her freshman year in high school was found dead....It's really horrible...first I had to explain to my Late son Blaine, why his best friend Rob died...then to my sons why Blaine was murdered..now this. I wish there was a way to make all this stop :'(

http://www.gazette.com/stories/0821loc1-2.php?section=1

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Zella on 08/21/02 at 09:53 a.m.

Honey, I am sooo sorry to hear of yet another tragedy hitting you so close to home. I know that old wounds keep getting re-opened for you, and I wish there was something I could say to ease your pain. Hang in there.

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Jessica on 08/21/02 at 10:04 a.m.

:'(

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Q.Aviator on 08/21/02 at 10:19 a.m.

:( :(

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Reddyrules on 08/21/02 at 07:03 p.m.


Quoting:
Now a 15 year old girl, who new my son Randall, and was starting her freshman year in high school was found dead....It's really horrible...first I had to explain to my Late son Blaine, why his best friend Rob died...then to my sons why Blaine was murdered..now this. I wish there was a way to make all this stop :'(

http://www.gazette.com/stories/0821loc1-2.php?section=1
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Geez RockNRoll Fan. Not wanting to sound awful but that is why I prefer my solitude. I cannot bear losing anyone that I have become close to. I read about it all the time in the papers and it stills become upsetting.

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Indy Gent on 08/21/02 at 08:57 p.m.

Me too, Mark. I'm tired of hearing about kids being murdered in Colorado, and the police not doing enough to prevent it from happening again. I think it may be time for you to join a victims' families' support group, or even start your own. I lot of these group would welcome someone like you. I do feel for you and the girl's family. And I hope that another person close to your family doesn't become another statistic. :'(

Quoting:
I wish there was a way to make all this stop :'(

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Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/21/02 at 10:18 p.m.

It's just horrible when anyone dies anywhere....not just here in Colorado.  I do thank all those who Do care very much and will try and not be such a downer when i return.... now I must say goodnight

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: jamminoldies on 08/22/02 at 07:23 p.m.

I'm tired of hearing people being run over by cars in Queens where I live.too sad. -howard-

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Sagnastian on 08/22/02 at 07:37 p.m.

sorry to hear that, but wanna hear somethign cool?  there was a man here who committed suicide jumping off the Zilwaukee bridge and his body slammed on the ground.  this was like a week a go or so.

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/23/02 at 05:22 a.m.

I'm sorry to hear of another loss close to you R&RF.

Hang in there man.


FB  :(

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Davester on 08/23/02 at 06:17 a.m.

   I'll probably get rapped in the mouth for this, but isn't the notion that the decesed have begun a journey to a much happier and blissful place comforting?  Isn't it selfish, self-centered and contrary to your deity's will to wish otherwise?
   Why is it so terrible when 'anyone' in the world dies?  As we all know, people, animals, plant life, bacteria, etc. are dying all the time.  Why is it so wrong?  I'd think that death is merely a part of life.
   IMO the real tragedy of a young life cut short is the loss of potential.  What would this person have grown-up to be?  Who knows.  Perhaps another Einstein or a Pasteur?  Perhaps not.
   Does anyone feel the same sense of loss and grief for those whom our military kills in the name of self defense in distant lands?  Executed criminals?  I could go on...  These are people who have mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters as well, and are loved no less.  Isn't ALL life valuable, or only the lives we deem as possessing value?  Furthermore, what constitutes, in your view, a valuable life and why?
   I mean no disrespct to you R&R in your time of healing, but I find some of the statements on this thread (and in various others) rather inconsistent and hypocritical and it was making my teeth hurt.
   

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/23/02 at 08:09 a.m.

Quoting:
   I'll probably get rapped in the mouth for this, but isn't the notion that the decesed have begun a journey to a much happier and blissful place comforting?  Isn't it selfish, self-centered and contrary to your deity's will to wish otherwise?
   Why is it so terrible when 'anyone' in the world dies?  As we all know, people, animals, plant life, bacteria, etc. are dying all the time.  Why is it so wrong?  I'd think that death is merely a part of life.
   IMO the real tragedy of a young life cut short is the loss of potential.  What would this person have grown-up to be?  Who knows.  Perhaps another Einstein or a Pasteur?  Perhaps not.
   Does anyone feel the same sense of loss and grief for those whom our military kills in the name of self defense in distant lands?  Executed criminals?  I could go on...  These are people who have mothers, fathers, brothers and sisters as well, and are loved no less.  Isn't ALL life valuable, or only the lives we deem as possessing value?  Furthermore, what constitutes, in your view, a valuable life and why?
   I mean no disrespct to you R&R in your time of healing, but I find some of the statements on this thread (and in various others) rather inconsistent and hypocritical and it was making my teeth hurt.
   
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None taken, Davester.  Everyone feels differently and deals differently with death.  The difference IMO, is that when someone close to me dies...or it effects someone close to me, then yes I am going to feel different then say, someone I never knew...like a killer getting the death penalty.  Everyone has family that cares about them but not all people care about everyone that dies...am I talking in cirles yet!?  I'll give you an example....when Blaine died my wife was going to a mormon church....people from there that we didn't know were nice and all but since she has seen the light and stopped attending, they don't call her to see how she is or anything.  Meanwhile, A very good friend I met here on this board continues to share her feelings with us and we are able to help her as well.  I KNOW Blaine is probably happy in some other dimension but YES I am selfish becuse it hurts his brothers and all of us so much that he's not ever coming back to us here.  You were right on when you said that it's not seeing thier full potential, although I sometimes feel like Blaine was the one who packed 45 years or so into 17....I sometimes felt HE was MY father ;) It will continue to hurt (His Absence) but I will continue..through the help of real freinds, to move forward and look back fondly on his life, and feel great that at least we got to enjoy our shining star for a while........

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Bobo on 08/23/02 at 11:29 a.m.

:(:( Re the original message RnRF.

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/23/02 at 02:55 p.m.

Quoting:
:(:( Re the original message RnRF.
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To borrow a term from Jonathan Higgins used on "Magnum P.I.-Quite Bobo, Quite :'( The girls funeral is tomorrow.  She had come over a lot around the time Blaine died.....

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Natalie on 08/24/02 at 06:40 p.m.


Quoting:
sorry to hear that, but wanna hear somethign cool?  there was a man here who committed suicide jumping off the Zilwaukee bridge and his body slammed on the ground.  this was like a week a go or so.
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And that's supposed to be cool?  

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: Natalie on 08/24/02 at 06:45 p.m.

I'm so sorry to hear this news, R&RF.  At least they caught the people who committed the crime.  I know you're going to see the family tonight, I'll be thinking of you all.   :'(

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: RockandRollFan on 08/24/02 at 09:56 p.m.


Quoting:
I'm so sorry to hear this news, R&RF.  At least they caught the people who committed the crime.  I know you're going to see the family tonight, I'll be thinking of you all.   :'(
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Thanks for the kind words everyone.  I actually had a very nice visit with Amanda's mom today.  It was very weird being on the other side and not being the victims parent...now I understand just how uncomfotable the situation was for all the people  last year, who came to my house after Blaine died.

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: dagwood on 08/25/02 at 10:23 a.m.


Quoting:


And that's supposed to be cool?  
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Kinda what I was thinking. ???

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: FussBudgetVanPelt on 08/26/02 at 06:08 a.m.

Quoting:


And that's supposed to be cool?  
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I posted next after the original subject of the above comment, and words just failed me, so I bit my tongue.... ::)

Subject: Re: Another Murder...Close To Home

Written By: BatRastard on 08/26/02 at 09:31 a.m.


Quoting:
Now a 15 year old girl, who new my son Randall, and was starting her freshman year in high school was found dead....It's really horrible...first I had to explain to my Late son Blaine, why his best friend Rob died...then to my sons why Blaine was murdered..now this. I wish there was a way to make all this stop :'(

http://www.gazette.com/stories/0821loc1-2.php?section=1
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:( :'( >:(