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I was wondering: where were the girls kidnapped from and at what time did this crime happen?

This is a rhetorical question, of course, since this happened in the middle of nowhere (the girls were at a "lovers' lane" with male companions) at 1:00am. I guess it's like the old saying goes: "when you play with fire..." Seriously, how safe is anyone at that time of night in the middle of nowhere? And their parents? Nowhere to be found - shows how much vigilance and importance they give their children ::)

Tarzan Boy
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You know, I tend to agree with you there, Tarzan Boy.  I mean, NOTHING "excuses" what this man did to those girls.  But when you look at a case like Danielle Van Dam's, for example, half the trial was spent saying that somehow the parents were partially to blame due to their "promiscuous lifestyle"..now, even if there is some truth to that, does that excuse what the murderer did?  No!!  But, I have to wonder why the parents of these girls are somehow 'left out'...now, I understand kids will be kids, and may even go somewhere like this "lover's lane"..and mom and dad may not have even KNOWN that they were there-I know these girls were older--but when I was 16-17 years old, even in my small town, there is NO WAY my mom and dad would have let me be out at 1:00 in the morning, let alone with some boy!
Call me crazy, call me overprotected, but I do think that the question has some merit, even though it in no way excuses what this man did, or how awful it was for the victims.  But it IS a valid point, or at least a good question, IMO.
And btw--I too am glad the cops "took care of it", regardless of anything else.  

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But when you look at a case like Danielle Van Dam's, for example, half the trial was spent saying that somehow the parents were partially to blame due to their "promiscuous lifestyle"..now, even if there is some truth to that, does that excuse what the murderer did?
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IMO judges should be a lot stricter in controlling what defence lawyers can get up to: it's the same over here, that a victim is often subjected to a perjorative tirade that would be libellous outside a courtroom in an attempt to make the actions of the defendent seem less dreadful, or even reasonable under the circumstances.

It seems to me though that if a defending counsel starts behaving in this manner, pretty much the only conclusion that can be drawn is that the defendent is guilty... lucky I've not been a juror on any of these sorts of cases ;-)

Phil

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i realize that i am far from a normal person.
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That's a good thing! ;D

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The parents should, to the very least, know if their children are sleeping safely in their own beds...

... the chances of falling into the hands of a maniac are increased by not communicating house rules about curfews - it's the law, anyway. If parents and their children are going to this extent, then perhaps they shouldn't act so surprised when bad things happen - thus, "when you play with fire, you get burned..."

Tarzan Boy
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I Finally Agree with you, If the parents were more responsible the whole situation could have been avoided.  Although If the parents had been more responsible, thier would still be a two time offender on the back roads of California, hunting for more young girls.