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Subject: John Gotti Is Dead
One of the most feared of all the New York mafia dons John Gotti lost his battle with throat cancer today. He was know as the "Teflon Don" for his slick hairstyle. The Smithereens even recorded a song about him, "Free John Gotti" after his conviction of tampering and assault inthe 90s. He was 61.
How did you feel?
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One of the most feared of all the New York mafia dons John Gotti lost his battle with throat cancer today. He was know as the "Teflon Don" for his slick hairstyle. The Smithereens even recorded a song about him "Free John Gotti" after his conviction of tampering and assault inthe 90s. He was 61.
How did you feel?
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well, I'm suprized he's only 61, In the movie he looked much older and the movie was set in what? 84?
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"Teflon Don" 'nickname' for his way to not be convicted..."Dapper Don" 'nickname' for his 'do and suits..and while I hate the man is dead..I am glad he was finally convicted and sent to the pen.....he needed to be held accountable for all that he did..NO ONE has the right to decide the things he did!!!
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...and I'm gonna break into song: "...yaddy-yaddy free John Gotti..." That song was waaay catchy! :D
Tarzan Boy
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I agree with you, Cricket. But the Italian-American community treated him like a god. Like the South American drug lords or Osama bin Laden in their homefronts. Still, I don't think Gotti was as bad as either one of those others.
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"Teflon Don" 'nickname' for his way to not be convicted..."Dapper Don" 'nickname' for his 'do and suits..and while I hate the man is dead..I am glad he was finally convicted and sent to the pen.....he needed to be held accountable for all that he did..NO ONE has the right to decide the things he did!!!
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I agree with you, Cricket. But the Italian-American community treated him like a god. Like the South American drug lords or Osama bin Laden in their homefronts...
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You must be kidding >:( That's like saying people on the German homefront support Neo-Nazism...
Tarzan Boy
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Let me clarify, TB. I meant to say a small fraction of Italian-Americans in New York supported Gotti. And as sad as it is, the majority of Germans did support Hitler during WWII. :( But fortunately, todays Germans are taking steps that will hopefully prevent another Holocaust. The German Government definitely does not support neo-Nazism. (Whew!)
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You must be kidding >:( That's like saying people on the German homefront support Neo-Nazism...
Tarzan Boy
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... And as sad as it is, the majority of Germans did support Hitler during WWII. :(
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Nope.
Anti-semitic sentiments of the Germans aside, the Nazis were supported by the minority of the German population. The Weimar Republic was a total failure, but most Germans weren't stupid enought vote for Hitler. The National Socialist vote at the time of Hitler was, like, 30% - hardly what I would call a "majority of Germans" ;)
Tarzan Boy
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So how, in your opinion, did Hitler become leader? Other than the bloodless coup theory?
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Nope.
Anti-semitic sentiments of the Germans aside, the Nazis were supported by the minority of the German population. The Weimar Republic was a total failure, but most Germans weren't stupid enought vote for Hitler. The National Socialist vote at the time of Hitler was, like, 30% - hardly what I would call a "majority of Germans" ;)
Tarzan Boy
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O.k. Heres how Hitler became dictator:
From 1929 support for the Nazis rose steadily:
1928 - 12 members of the Reichstag
1930 - 107 members
1932 July - 230 members
On 27th February, just a week before the election, the Reichstag caught fire and burnt down. A communist, Franz van der Lubbe was arrested inside. Hitler used this as an excuse to arrest many members of the Communist Party, his main opponents.
The general election took place on 5th March 1933. the Nazis won 288 seats,this was notthe majority, but 52 Nationalists supported them. At the first meeting of the Reichstag on 23rd March, the 81 Communists stayed away. Hitler could now do as he liked.
The Reichstag immediately passed the Enabling Act - this made Hitler dictator of Germany for four years. He immediately began to use this power to crush all opposition to him in Germany. All trade unions were abolished and all political parties banned, except for the Nazis. In November 1933 in another general election, in which only Nazi candidates were allowed, 92% of the people supported the Nazis.
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O.k. Heres how Hitler became dictator:
From 1929 support for the Nazis rose steadily:
1928 - 12 members of the Reichstag
1930 - 107 members
1932 July - 230 members
On 27th February, just a week before the election, the Reichstag caught fire and burnt down. A communist, Franz van der Lubbe was arrested inside. Hitler used this as an excuse to arrest many members of the Communist Party, his main opponents.
The general election took place on 5th March 1933. the Nazis won 288 seats,this was notthe majority, but 52 Nationalists supported them. At the first meeting of the Reichstag on 23rd March, the 81 Communists stayed away. Hitler could now do as he liked.
The Reichstag immediately passed the Enabling Act - this made Hitler dictator of Germany for four years. He immediately began to use this power to crush all opposition to him in Germany. All trade unions were abolished and all political parties banned, except for the Nazis. In November 1933 in another general election, in which only Nazi candidates were allowed, 92% of the people supported the Nazis.
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Bingo! Spoken like a true prodigy :)
Tarzan Boy
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So in other words, Hitler cheated! ;)
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Bingo! Spoken like a true prodigy :)
Tarzan Boy
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ok..can I just ask how we got from John Gotti to Hitler....isn't this a bit extreme..can we just move on and let John rest in peace...and be done with it? !!!!
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Resting in peace? I doubt it.
Maybe roasting in pieces.... ;)
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Well, I mentioned Osama and the South American druglord being worshipped in their country, then TB thought I was generalizing, and then..... ::)
Believe me Cricket, I just had to defend myself. ;)
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ok..can I just ask how we got from John Gotti to Hitler....isn't this a bit extreme..can we just move on and let John rest in peace...and be done with it? !!!!
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So in other words, Hitler cheated! ;)
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Just like John Gotti 8) "...yaddy yaddy free John Gotti..." They finally buried the S.O.B., but the Catholic church wouldn't let them have a mass for him in church ::) Whatever.
Tarzan Boy
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Good riddance.
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I think after the stigma of being associated with organized crime since most of the dons were Catholic, The Church is probably glad they didn't have a Mass for Gotti. :-X
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Just like John Gotti 8) "...yaddy yaddy free John Gotti..." They finally buried the S.O.B., but the Catholic church wouldn't let them have a mass for him in church ::) Whatever.
Tarzan Boy
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Ruthless.
Unconscionable.
Dead.
At last, some good news.