who are the oldest actors/actresses in porn today and how old are they, if you happen to know this?  8)

Why did Ron Jeremy turn into a fat slob?  Does he still do Porn now?  I wouldn't think there'd be any ladies screaming to see a middle aged fat guy take it all off ;D

Why did Ron Jeremy turn into a fat slob?  Does he still do Porn now?  I wouldn't think there'd be any ladies screaming to see a middle aged fat guy take it all off ;D



He's been tossing too much salad for the past 20 years but as far as I know,he's retired from the business and he does occasional appearances but they're rare.The reason they called him The Hedgehog was because of his hairy body.

Could I talk about dry humping on this thread? ;D

what do you know about the porn industry that is being managed by and geared toward women? Is that a small faction? Has it had much success?

What's "Janine" up to these days?  I had a male friend offer to take me to a strip joint where she was appearing.  (But I  chickened out) ::)

Do you like porn with a storyline?

And what about those HBO,Cinemax Adult Late Night Specials?


Well, in the early days of cable, these were frequently heavily edited "hard core" movies.  Way back in the early 1980's, LA had 2 competeing "over the air" movie channels.  These ran on UHF frequencies, and used a decoder box to vew.  Most of the time they showed things like Star Wars, and other movies just like HBP and the rest.  But late at night, they showed movies with the explicit sex edited out.  I remember when I was in High School seeing "Little Orphan Dusty" like this.  I saw it again a few years later on Video, and realized the first one I saw was the same, just edited.

In the mid to late 1980's, you started to see the rebirth of "soft core" porn, aimed at the cable market.  Instead of being heavily edited, these were filmed from the beginning for the cable market, with loads of "simulated sex".  HBO, Showtime, and Cinemax bought a lot of these, as did the Playboy Chanel in the early days.

Wow, I started this as a joke almost, but never would have imagined this much feedback!

OK, I am going to tackle the posts from this weekend all in one shot.


who are the oldest actors/actresses in porn today and how old are they, if you happen to know this?  8)


Well, the oldest actor is probably Ron Jeremy.  The oldest Actress is probably Christy Canyon (who comes in and out of retirement every few years).  Men in the industry sometimes have amazingly long careers, sometimes lasting 20-30+ years.  Women on the other hand rarely last more then 2-5 years. 

And now, the trend is for even younger women.  IN the 1980's, it was not unusual to see women in their late 30's and even 40's.  Now that is something you almost never see.


Why did Ron Jeremy turn into a fat slob?  Does he still do Porn now?  I wouldn't think there'd be any ladies screaming to see a middle aged fat guy take it all off ;D


That happened in the early 1990's.  With the move to video, there was much less demand on the movies (or actors) looking good, it was all about the sex.  Also at that time he moved to the producer-directors chair, making much less appearances then he did before.  In the late 1990's, he started to appear on film again, and the years were not kind to him.  He was also an early mover to the "Gonzo" form, which often made it harder for his actresses to move into more "conventional" porn.


what do you know about the porn industry that is being managed by and geared toward women? Is that a small faction? Has it had much success?


There are a few of them out there, but not many.  One of the earliest was Andrew Blake.  His early movies tended more to the "sensual" then "sexual".  He also did a series of lesbian features, staring Aria Giovanni.  His movies tend to be more "dreamy", with soft lighting, heavy use of diffusers, and more attention to the body then the action.

Viv Thomas is very similar.  He is English, and while most of his movies tend towards lesbian erotica, he also does heterosexual and a few "kink".  Like Blake, he also uses diffusers, soft lighting and shadows, and storylines that seem more like a soap opera or romance then a porn movie.

Asia Carrera is an actress that has since moved on to form her own production company.  Once a star of many of Andrew Blake's movies, she makes movies in a similar style, but a little more raunchy.  And at 33, she was one of the oldest women still acting.  She is retired at the moment, because of the birth of her son in July, just one month after the death of her husband.  Many are wondering if she will ever return


Do you like porn with a storyline?


LOL!  Actually, for me it has to have a story line.

I often watch the movies from the "golden age", and find them very entertaining.  For the most part, I view them as a form of racey comedy.  Harry Reems for example was one of the funniest actors I have ever seen, in or out of porn.  He was not all that good looking, kind of a porn version of Christopher Lloyd.  But he was a great actor, and his characters almost always left me rolling in laughter.  The early Ron Jeremy also had this talent, often changing her personality to fit the role.  Since retiring from porn, Harry Reems has converted to Christianity (he was born Jewish), and now sells real estate in Utah (he actually uses Harry Reems, and not his birth name Herbert Streicher on his business cards).

Desire

Didn't Candida Royale start her own company , specializing in porn and sex toys made by women for women? I had read about that before. 

Why did Ron Jeremy turn into a fat slob?  Does he still do Porn now?  I wouldn't think there'd be any ladies screaming to see a middle aged fat guy take it all off ;D


Actually, actors like Ron are almost a staple in porn.  If you look at all of the actors, you will find that young good looking guys are rather rare.  For every Jerry Butler you find 2 or 3 like Harry Reems.

And part of this is in the psychology.  Since porn is aimed at guys, they can watch them and fall into the fantasy.  They watch, and figure "Hey, if that fat slob can score with that young good looking hottie, maybe I have a chance."

And don't forget, porn is basically a business.  The average daily wage for a porn actress is between $750-3,000+, depending on name recognition and the type of scene.  And going on camera with a porn "legend" is an easy way to get your name known and recognized.  However, in recent years appearing with Ron Jeremy has actually been a minus to most women.  In more recent years is style is pretty much "Gonzo", and very demeaning to women.

However, he is reported to be amonst the highest paying producers, and money will make a lot of people do things they normally would not do.


Didn't Candida Royale start her own company , specializing in porn and sex toys made by women for women? I had read about that before. 


Yes she did, but it was not very successful.  She only produced 14 movies, the last in 1999.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0747263/

This is not all that unusual.  And a lot of actors and actresses allow their names to be attached to "toys".  It is an easy way to get more money, and it works off of their name recognition.  Sharon Kelly did much the same thing, but moved into doing "back office" production work.

how DO you know so much about porn? ;D

Why in those softcore films do you see guys and girls covering their hands over the crotch to make believe that they're pleasuring their partners?

how DO you know so much about porn? ;D


LOL!  Again, a lot of this is not very different from regular films.  The different areas of film making are actualy very similar.  And both porn and mainstream feed off of each other.  I have quite a few friends in various aspects of the movie industry, and a few that have worked in porn.  And as part of a film group I was in back in the early 1990's, I actually did a project comparing the two.

One of the things that shocked me was how a lot of porn was really just comedy.  There are very few porn movies that worked off of "horror" or "drama".  Most used comedy as their driving force.  And in a vast majority of them, parody was where the storyline came from.  And being a lover of both comedy and parody, it is not to surprising that I enjoy watching them.  In fact, I often times find myself skimming past the sex scenes, to continue with the story.


Why in those softcore films do you see guys and girls covering their hands over the crotch to make believe that they're pleasuring their partners?


Once again, it is to get around various "blue laws".  This is especially seen since the advent of Cable, where the restrictions are in place by the FCC.

This is exactly where the terms "hard core" and "soft core" came from.  As late as the 1970's, most areas had restrictions against showing an erect penis.  Playgirl is a perfect example of this.  It was not until the mid 1980's that Playgirl tried to shot a male in any state other then relaxed.  In these aspects, the hands (or other prop devices) are used to conceal what may (or may not) be happening. 

Why is Screech in porn now?

Why is Screech in porn now?



That's hard to believe,have any proof Meat? :o

That's hard to believe,have any proof Meat? :o



Ummm, it's been all over the news the past few months.  A sex tape surfaced of him and 2 girls.

Why is Screech in porn now?

probably cuz he played Screech ;D

Why is Screech in porn now?


It is kinda similar to the Tonya Harding or the Pamula Anderson tapes.  They were never intended to be released, but they ended up getting released through "other means".

The tape was somehow acquired by David Hans Schmidt, a seller of sex tapes featuring celebrities.  In the past, he has sold tapes with the likes of Colin Farrel, Jamie Foxx, OJ Simpson, Tonya Harding, and Paris Hilton.  And it has been proven that sueing him to stop the distribution does no good, since he will release them anyways up and until the date the judge signs the order (which takes weeks if not months).

Well, the oldest actor is probably Ron Jeremy.  The oldest Actress is probably Christy Canyon (who comes in and out of retirement every few years).  Men in the industry sometimes have amazingly long careers, sometimes lasting 20-30+ years.  Women on the other hand rarely last more then 2-5 years. 



She's pretty "old" I suppose, but I think Nina Hartley has her beat.

Ummm, it's been all over the news the past few months.  A sex tape surfaced of him and 2 girls.


What's it called Saved By The Bell? ;D

Have you ever seen a real authentic 'snuff' film?

What's it called Saved By The Bell? ;D




I think it is called, "Saved By The Smell". ;)

Have you ever seen a real authentic 'snuff' film?


Ewwwwwwwwwww.

No, and I would never want to.  I have absolutely no interest in ever seeing anything like that.  Now do I have any interest in rape, B&D, S&M, or anything else along those lines.

There is to much tragedy and death in our world to begin with.  I refuse to even consider seeing a death as "entertainment".  And I think anybody that would want to see something like that to be seriously disturbed.

I think it is called, "Saved By The Smell". ;)


Or "Save Me From This Hell"? (Hell being the video... Meh)

Ewwwwwwwwwww.

No, and I would never want to.  I have absolutely no interest in ever seeing anything like that.  Now do I have any interest in rape, B&D, S&M, or anything else along those lines.

There is to much tragedy and death in our world to begin with.  I refuse to even consider seeing a death as "entertainment".  And I think anybody that would want to see something like that to be seriously disturbed.

I just was wondering.  I've actually heard that snuff films are somewhat of an urban legend, that they don't really exist. I saw the movie 8mm and that creeped me out plenty. I couldn't imagine seeing a real 'snuff' film.

I just was wondering.  I've actually heard that snuff films are somewhat of an urban legend, that they don't really exist. I saw the movie 8mm and that creeped me out plenty. I couldn't imagine seeing a real 'snuff' film.


Snuff films are actually an urban legend for the most part.  They actually were started because of a 1971 book about the Manson Family.  In the book Family: The Story of Charles Manson's Dune Buggy Attack Battalion, the author says that they had made snuff films.  However, this was never proven, and the reference in the book is the only one on record.

After this, there were a few "horror movies" made which only spread the legend.  The 1976 movie Snuff was loosly based on the Manson family, and depicted a snuff film in it.  And it has continued to grow ever since then.

Currently, the only suspected real "snuff films" were seized in 2000, entering Italy from Russia.  The films were mostly pedographic in nature, and it has been believed that at least one of them was snuff in nature.  However, the Italian Government has refused to comment on this, and also refused to allow anybody to see the tapes siezed.

Myself, I believe they are a myth.  However, there have been many "fake snuff" films floating around for years.  There is actually an (in)famous series from Japan that is called "The Guinea Pig".  However, these are all faked, and are little more then extreme S&M movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_%28film_series%29

I think it is called, "Saved By The Smell". ;)


Or Shaved By The Smell.  ;D

. I saw the movie 8mm and that creeped me out plenty. I couldn't imagine seeing a real 'snuff' film.



ya, that movie was quite creepy...did you happen to see the 8mm 2?

ya, that movie was quite creepy...did you happen to see the 8mm 2?

no.. I didn't know they made a sequel .. Was it as 'bad'/creepy as the first one?

no.. I didn't know they made a sequel .. Was it as 'bad'/creepy as the first one?



I dunno...I haven't seen it yet. Not sure if I really want to.

I dunno...I haven't seen it yet. Not sure if I really want to.

I liked Joachin Phoenix in the first one, that's why I bought the movie.  Not sure I would care to see the sequel though. Sequels are generally terrible. (Not counting my rave review of Saw3 :P )

Do women always fake orgasms in porn? ;D

Do women always fake orgasms in porn? ;D



No.  Orgasms are a physical reaction to what's happening.  I'm sure there's been times when women have actually had one on screen.

Oldest Survivng Actors: Harry Reems, Ron Jeremy, Nick Random.

Oldest Surviving Actresses: Ona Zee, Christy Canyon, Marilyn Chambers, and Seka.

Oldest Survivng Actors: Harry Reems, Ron Jeremy, Nick Random.

Oldest Surviving Actresses: Ona Zee, Christy Canyon, Marilyn Chambers, and Seka.



Then who would be the youngest surviving actors and actresses?

Then who would be the youngest surviving actors and actresses?


Probably whichever 18-year-olds (barely) they were able to sucker into doing the deed on Girls Gone Wild ;)

Unless they had fake IDs, in which case we might not know until way later :o

Then who would be the youngest surviving actors and actresses?


That would be most of them.

Especially in Gonzo, the industry often thrives on youth.  18 and 19 year old actors and actresses come and go all the time in porn.  And rmemeber, not every country has an "age of conscent" of 18.  In some countries, 16 and 17 is old enough to appear in porn movies.

Young actors and actresses come and go in that industry all the time.  Most of them get burned out fast too.  Drug addiction is still a rampant problem, and suicide is not all that uncommon.

That would be most of them.

Especially in Gonzo, the industry often thrives on youth.  18 and 19 year old actors and actresses come and go all the time in porn.  And rmemeber, not every country has an "age of conscent" of 18.  In some countries, 16 and 17 is old enough to appear in porn movies.

Young actors and actresses come and go in that industry all the time.  Most of them get burned out fast too.  Drug addiction is still a rampant problem, and suicide is not all that uncommon.


What is gonzo?  ???

http://www.nationalcynical.com/images/pleasedonotstealthebandwithofthispicture.jpg

Myself, I believe they are a myth.  However, there have been many "fake snuff" films floating around for years.  There is actually an (in)famous series from Japan that is called "The Guinea Pig".  However, these are all faked, and are little more then extreme S&M movies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_%28film_series%29


I've heard of this series.. didn't they inspire one man who killed little girls?

What is gonzo?  ???


"Gonzo" is basically an extreme form of porn, with an "amateur" feel to it.  Kinda like what Jack Horner was doing at the end of "Boogie Nights" when he picked up a guy at random and taped him with Rollergirl.

The trend really started with "Bus Stop Tales" in 1990.  In it, the protagonist (Ed Powers) would supposedly approach a girl at a bus stop, and procede to talk her into going home with him and have sex in front of a camera.  Now there were all staged, but they were made very amatuerishly.  A lot of people actually believed they were real.

When Internet came out, this form really began to flourish.  Series like MILF, Bang Bus, Boob Squad, Latine Maids, and a lot of others work off of this concept.  And most of them tend to protrey women as either stupid and/or sluts.  Most of them are very degrading towards the women in them, and there is no attempt at plot or sensuality.

In fact, the Bang Bus normally works the same way.  Pick up a random girl, talk her into having sex (sometimes for money), then berate and put her down the entire time.  Then afterwards, abandon her on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.  The term "Dirty Sanchez" actually came from one of the Cameramen of the series.

http://www.miaminewtimes.com/issues/2004-10-14/feature.html

One of the reasons why it is popular on the internet is because it is high on action, and low on plot.  It is also very cheap to produce, with an average production cost of under $5,000.  Most of the actresses are college girls or strippers that do it to make extra money.  While the owners of the site are now filthy rich (most estimates place the value of the company in excess of $3 million), the average pay for the actress is around $1,000.  

Myself, I find nothing at all entertaining about this.  It is grossly exploitive, and degrading to women.  I find absolutely nothing erotic about seeing a woman being told to bark, then calling her names, only to kick her out in the middle of nowhere with no money.


I've heard of this series.. didn't they inspire one man who killed little girls?


Tsutomu Miyazaki is a mass murderer who is awaiting execution in Japan.  Between 1988 and 1989, he killed 4 girls, between the ages of 4 and 7.  He did hve a collection of the first 5 Guinie Pig movies, but they were only part of a 5763 tape collection that covered a large variety of topics.  He was also diagnosed of having multiple personality disorder and extreme schizophrenia, but the court determined that he was sufficiently aware of what he was doing to be executed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki

I really don't see any connection, since he was obviously very disturbed in the first place.  I simply can't assume just because he saw something as disturbing as this, that it made him do the murders.  Much like the famous "Citizen X" murders, he was in serious need of help even before he did the crimes.

After all, I have seen Matchstick Men many times, but have never had the desire to become a grifter.  I have also repeatedly watched the original The Italian Job, but never had the desire to rob a bank.  I love the GTA series, but have never wanted to go around town killing people.

She's pretty "old" I suppose, but I think Nina Hartley has her beat.


a friend of mine had a pic of Nina Hartley who was the stripper at his brothers bachelor party, umm I would say probably late 80's to early 90's. Her husband was the assistant. not sure how old she was then, but she looked good. Her body was rather muscular and hard-body looking.

Tsutomu Miyazaki is a mass murderer who is awaiting execution in Japan.  Between 1988 and 1989, he killed 4 girls, between the ages of 4 and 7.  He did hve a collection of the first 5 Guinie Pig movies, but they were only part of a 5763 tape collection that covered a large variety of topics.  He was also diagnosed of having multiple personality disorder and extreme schizophrenia, but the court determined that he was sufficiently aware of what he was doing to be executed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki
I really don't see any connection, since he was obviously very disturbed in the first place.  I simply can't assume just because he saw something as disturbing as this, that it made him do the murders.  Much like the famous "Citizen X" murders, he was in serious need of help even before he did the crimes.


While this may be granted as true, Miyazaki used this particular MO for a reason.
Then again, anyone dubbed as a serial murderer has need of help prior to committing the deeds.
He claimed he "was into little girls, because he could control them better".

Many ppl don't understand how degrading certain types of Japanese porn can be.

For the Miyazaki talk, go to the "Ask Hawk About: Serial Killers" thread.

Many ppl don't understand how degrading certain types of Japanese porn can be.

For the Miyazaki talk, go to the "Ask Hawk About: Serial Killers" thread.


Japanese porn is often very degrading.

When I first went to Japan in 1988, I was walking through town and decided to take a look in a video store.  Now this was just a normal local video store, where they rented all kinds of movies.  And on one of the shelves (not even closed off from the rest of the store), they had rows upon rows of porn movies.  And most of them evolved around Bondage, S&M, or rape.  For some reason, melting wax was very popular.

And the Anime is often very similar.  Now I am a big lover of Japanese Animation.  I have a large collection, ranging from "teen Shows" like Love Hina and movies like Kiki's Delivery Service and Metropolis, to "adult titles" like New Angel, Buttobi CPU, Golden Boy, and F3.  And the adult ones I have are among the most tame availible.  Anybody who has seen La Blue Girl will know what I mean.

Tenticle Rape, snuff, extreme S&M, golden showers, public humiliation, these are all common in a lot of adult oriented anime.  Most of the more extreme ones tend to follow a path where a bitchy woman is given 'what she deserves".  Living Sex Toy Delivery is a good example of this.  The series started with a man being kidnapped, used as a sex object, then being left to die.  Over the series, he kidnapped each woman in turn, abused her, destroyed her mind, then abandoned her nude in a public place.

http://www.hentaineko.com/html_peek/peek_anime_livingsextoydelivery.shtml

I think that the tight laced nature of Japanese society tends to bring out this extreme "Madonna-Whore" complex.  Young girls need to be forced into sex, yet even while they deny it they love it.  Women are treated as objects, to be used purely for the pleasure of the men, no matter how degrading. 

What would life be without porn?

why do married men continuously hurt their wives by indulging in this crap?

why do married men continuously hurt their wives by indulging in this crap?



What do you mean by indulging?  Merely watching it or trying to replicate what they see on screen with their partners?  I don't think watching porn is a big deal.  If it gets to the point where it's taking over your life and you neglect your responsibilites so you can go beat off, then that's a problem. 

Plenty of married women watch pornography too, so it's not like it's just a medium for married men.

What do you mean by indulging?  Merely watching it or trying to replicate what they see on screen with their partners?  I don't think watching porn is a big deal.  If it gets to the point where it's taking over your life and you neglect your responsibilites so you can go beat off, then that's a problem. 

Plenty of married women watch pornography too, so it's not like it's just a medium for married men.



you know what? I'm not even going to go there...it's too much of a personal thing and you or nobody else would understand it unless you've been through it.

you know what? I'm not even going to go there...it's too much of a personal thing and you or nobody else would understand it unless you've been through it.



No, I haven't since I've never been married.  I was just being honest about what I thought.  I wasn't trying to start an argument or a fight.  I was just asking about what you  meant by "indulging".

No, I haven't since I've never been married.  I was just being honest about what I thought.  I wasn't trying to start an argument or a fight.  I was just asking about what you  meant by "indulging".



basically what I meant was doing it in such a way that one would consider it to be more of an addiction, to where it hurts the person they are with, and no matter how many times they say they are going to quit...they never do. Instead, they do it in secrecy and try to hide things, etc.

No, I haven't since I've never been married.  I was just being honest about what I thought.  I wasn't trying to start an argument or a fight.  I was just asking about what you  meant by "indulging".


I think she means that they watch it continually, almost as if it were a replacement for the real thing with their own partner. Or in such a way that they fantasize about porn stars while ... erm... doing it with their partner. It's true! I've learned about it in health class!

I think she means that they watch it continually, almost as if it were a replacement for the real thing with their own partner. Or in such a way that they fantasize about porn stars while ... erm... doing it with their partner. It's true! I've learned about it in health class!



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yep...you got it.

I think she means that they watch it continually, almost as if it were a replacement for the real thing with their own partner. Or in such a way that they fantasize about porn stars while ... erm... doing it with their partner. It's true! I've learned about it in health class!



Isn't that what I said though?  I said that it only becomes a problem when the above happens.

why do married men continuously hurt their wives by indulging in this crap?


Why do men hurt their partners by doing anything?

This is more about human nature and destructive behavior then about pornography itself.  I never really indulged in it when I was in a relationship, because it simply was not needed for me.  Besides, I have always been more "mentally tuned" then visually.  Myself, I would much rather read a sexy story then watch a movie of two people getting it on.

I rented a porn movie exactly one time with my ex-wife, and it was because she said she was curious.  She picked it out, and thought it was one of the funniest and grossest things she had ever seen.  But it was not something she had any desire to see again, so I did not get another until many years later after we broke up.

My fiancee also expressed an interest to me about 10 years later, so I picked up one, and we both enjoyed it.  Especially when she was in the later stages of pregnancy, we would cuddle up on the couch and watch one together.  But it was never an "obsession" for either of us, just something we did once a month or so if the mood was right.

And even today, it is hardly an obsession with me.  I have maybe 50 or so movies on my hard drive, most of them from the 1970's or early 1980's.  But I would still much rather read a story or book then watch it.  Or pull out one of my 400+ "regular" DVDs.  Somebody that is addicted to porn in my eyes is not much different then somebody addicted to gambling, cheating, internet addiction, or much anything else that disrupts a marriage. 

Could anyone retire from porn because their crotches get tired?  ;D

Could anyone retire from porn because their crotches get tired?   ;D


If they wanted!

But if your crotch is tired, I think that tells you something.

What are some films would you recommend that are more sensual than sexual (with somewhat of a plot)?





Cat

What are some films would you recommend that are more sensual than sexual (with somewhat of a plot)?





Cat



Indiana Bones and the Temple of Poon?

Indiana Bones and the Temple of Poon?



Um...sounds too much like Lord of the G-String.  ::)




Cat

Um...sounds too much like Lord of the G-String.  ::)




Cat



I Love Misty Mundae ;D

If they wanted!

But if your crotch is tired, I think that tells you something.



telling me what?

telling me what?




Ummm, that it's time to quit.

Ummm, that it's time to quit.



Quitting the porn industry? that'll never happen unless you keep on using Viagra for a stimulant. ;D

Quitting the porn industry? that'll never happen unless you keep on using Viagra for a stimulant. ;D


... You're the one who asked if you could do it.

Quitting the porn industry? that'll never happen unless you keep on using Viagra for a stimulant. ;D



A lot of actors quit the porn industry for reasons that aren't physical.  Some want to get married/have families, some just don't want to do it anymore. 

What are some films would you recommend that are more sensual than sexual (with somewhat of a plot)?


Almost anything by Andrew Blake, or Viv Thomas.  For Andrew Blake, I would reccomend the Night Trips series, Wet Dreams, or Secrets.  Viv Thomas is mostly known for lesbian erotica, but Room Service is one of his movies that is about half lesbian and hald heterosexual.  However, all of Viv Thomas' movies tend to be very sensual.

When it comes to the "Classic Films", it is often harder.  This is because most of the plots tend to revolve around a comedy.  The Opening Of Misty Beethoven has long been considered a classic, for many reasons.  So is Delicious, with Desiree Cousteau and Veronica Hart.  There are many others with plots, but I find them hard to describe as "sensual" because of some of the content.  Behind The Green Door has a lot of sensual elements, but it also revolves around a (possible) rape, and there is some male homosexuality.  Little Orphan Dusty is similar, with several very sensual scenes.  But the movie opens with a rape to open the setting.  "Every Woman Has A Fantasy" is often considered to be a classic "sensual" from the mid 1980's, complete with a Burt Reynolds look-alike, and the male star crossdressing to learn women's secrets (a'la Tootsie).  The "Taboo American Style" series was actually filmed in the style of a "TV Miniseries", with a twisted plot around fame, money, and revenge.  But the incest nature of the story also makes it hard to reccomend.

Many times in movies from the 1970's, rape was used as a "plot device", to introduce the characters together.  Even knowing this, I find it hard to seriously reccomend a movie with rape in it, as I find it very distastefull and objectionable.  

The problem with the older films is that they are very hard to find.  Most of the older companies from the 1970's and early 80's have gone bankrupt, and the ownership of the films is impossible to trace, making legal reprints impossible.  This is also because of the "Traci Lords" scandal.  When it broke that she was underage in all of her films, it resulted in the destruction of thousands of other movies.  This is because it was standard at tthe time to include "Trailers" of other movies.  So not only was every movie she was in destroyed, but every movie that had her in a trailer was also destroyed.  One company in particular (Dark Brothers) had her in either the feature or trailer of every movie they sold.  The company was shut down within months of the disclosure and all the movies (with one or two exceptions) are now out of print.


Could anyone retire from porn because their crotches get tired?   ;D


Actually, most quit because they become "burned out".  This industry is very hard on the people involved, most especially the women.  Drug addiction is rampant, and suicide is not unheard of.  In the 1970's and 1980's, it was not uncommon to see actresses in their 30's and even 40's.  Sharon Kelly was a conventional actress (appearing in TV shows like Lou Grant, and movies like Shampoo, Hustle, and Foxy Brown) before she entered porn in her mid 30's.  She only worked in porn for 6 years before retiring.  Today, most of the actresses come and go so fast, most are between 19 and 25.

I doubt you would find many actresses today that have been in more then 3-4 years.  And of those that are, most are their own producer-directors, so they determine their own schedules.  In the "classic era", a lot of actresses retired and have done well for themselves.  I know of at least 2 that went on to get medical degrees and continue with a fairly normal life.

The only "recent" actress I can think of that has tried this is Melody Damayo (Mimi Miyagi).  She retired 3 years ago after 13 years in the industry.  Earlier this year, she ran against Jim Gibbons for the Republican nomination for Governor of Nevada.  But unlike most who try to gget into office like Mary Carey, she says she is serious about it.  Considering she is retired, I tend to believe it.  Mary Carey mostly did it as a publicity stunt, and she is still currently making movies.


A lot of actors quit the porn industry for reasons that aren't physical.  Some want to get married/have families, some just don't want to do it anymore. 


That was the norm at one time, but does not seem to be the case anymore.  Harry Reems, Desiree Costeau, and Veronica Hart all left at what was probably the height of their popularity.  They all pretty much got what they wanted, and moved on with their lives.  But you still have people like Ron Jeremy working, probably because there is nothing else he seems to want to do.

Today, they join all young and fresh, and when they have aged a bit are pushed out in favor of younger girls.  Mimi Miyagi was one of Ed Power' "discoveries" in 1990, and she worked for him for only a few years before she moved on.  He still makes movies specializing in young girls to this day.  Mimi was only able to continue because of the area of the market that specializes in Asian girls.  If she was Caucasian, she would simply have been one of the many that was discarded.

Most of the actresses today tend to come from strip clubs.  And when no longer wanted, that is where they return.  Some even make more money, traveling on the circut that specializes in former porn actresses.  Christy Canyon often does that between her various "retirements".  She has retired at least 3 or 4 times that I am aware of.

However, there are also several escourt services that specialize in working with porn actresses.  There is one they tried to bust a few years ago in LA, but could not.  Because they videotaped the "encounters" and sold that tape to the client, it was determined they were a "private movie service", and not a prostitution ring.  A very fine line to be sure.

what always bugged me about 'meat and potatoes' porn is, the way they show about 2 minutes of foreplay (i.e. the woman receiving pleasure) but then they spend about 10 mins on the male receiving oral sex. It just irks me that they do that.

what always bugged me about 'meat and potatoes' porn is, the way they show about 2 minutes of foreplay (i.e. the woman receiving pleasure) but then they spend about 10 mins on the male receiving oral sex. It just irks me that they do that.


I imagine that porn is more intended for a casual male viewer.

I imagine that porn is more intended for a casual male viewer.

I tell ya that's sexist and descriminatory!! I'm gonna boycott all porn until they have equal foreplay time!! :P

I tell ya that's sexist and descriminatory!! I'm gonna boycott all porn until they have equal foreplay time!! :P


And now all you need are to get about 3-4 billion more people on your side, and I'm tellin' ya, that porn industry'll be hurtin'! :D

And now all you need are to get about 3-4 billion more people on your side, and I'm tellin' ya, that porn industry'll be hurtin'! :D

Yeah, that's it.. I'm gonna go draw up the Petition now!!

what always bugged me about 'meat and potatoes' porn is, the way they show about 2 minutes of foreplay (i.e. the woman receiving pleasure) but then they spend about 10 mins on the male receiving oral sex. It just irks me that they do that.


Well, the vast majority of people who spend money on porn are male, in addition to the vast number who actually make it.

There are a few that buch that trend, but they are the exception.  And I do not see it changing, unless a lot more women start spending money on it.  After all, the market will follow wherever the money is.

Well, the vast majority of people who spend money on porn are male, in addition to the vast number who actually make it.

There are a few that buch that trend, but they are the exception.  And I do not see it changing, unless a lot more women start spending money on it.  After all, the market will follow wherever the money is.


well it just goes to show you, men are all talk ! cuz they claim that they are all about the woman gettin hers first.. but I guess the porn industry proves that's just not true.. :P

well it just goes to show you, men are all talk ! cuz they claim that they are all about the woman gettin hers first.. but I guess the porn industry proves that's just not true.. :P


They might be like that in real life, but it might not be what they wanna see when watching their porns.

How would I get into scriptwriting for the gay porn industry?

How would I get into scriptwriting for the gay porn industry?


Well, something like scriptwriting for any part of the porn industry is really something that does not happen.  Because the vast majority of porn movies are basically "independent films", the producer, director, and screenwriter are largely all the same person (or small group).

Pollo asado?

A lot of actors quit the porn industry for reasons that aren't physical.  Some want to get married/have families, some just don't want to do it anymore. 



I guess some actors and actresses get old and their bodies aren't what they used to be.

Somebody may have asked this before, but is it with having sex pressed up against a wall? If not place else, it's usually a wall...

I must've forgot,What's a Dirty Sanchez?  ???

Somebody may have asked this before, but is it with having sex pressed up against a wall? If not place else, it's usually a wall...



It's called a quickie. ;)

I must've forgot,What's a Dirty Sanchez?  ???


It's when a guy penetrates a woman anally and then immediately has her give him oral sex, which supposedly gives the girl a "mexican mustache" via fecal matter.

It's when a guy penetrates a woman anally and then immediately has her give him oral sex, which supposedly gives the girl a "mexican mustache" via fecal matter.


Well then I better save my feces for the toilet ;D

I must've forgot,What's a Dirty Sanchez?  ???


Well, I see this has already been answered.

Here in El Paso, there is a joke about a "Dirty Gomez".

That is when you finish having sex with a gal, then go and steal her hubcaps.

Blimey!!

I thought u were a bit more highbrow than this Mushroom..did u get bored with all those serious and indepth posts on the politics board then?  ;D

Blimey!!

I thought u were a bit more highbrow than this Mushroom..did u get bored with all those serious and indepth posts on the politics board then?   ;D


Hahaha, this is actually something I had started a while back as a joke.  And since I skated around the edges of the Adult Entertainment Industry, I had a bit more then the normal level of knowledge of how it all works.

And yes, I still do have a fascination for the old "Classic Porn" movies.  Although they are becomming harder and harder to find nowadays. 

It's when a guy penetrates a woman anally and then immediately has her give him oral sex, which supposedly gives the girl a "mexican mustache" via fecal matter.


There's this guy I work with who's in his late 40s and going gray, and he decided to try putting some of that "Just For Men" stuff in his mustache and goatee. Needless to say, it was more than a bit too obvious, so I started calling him "Dirty Sanchez."

(Of course I had to explain it to him.  ;D )

In your opinion who was the best porn star (male ) of the 70s'? My avatar says it all for me.

Hi!

Um. what exactly is a "donkey show"?  I keep hearing it being mentioned on Comedy Central, and I have no clue what it is. If you know, please tell me.

Thank you.

See Clerks 2

Well then I better save my feces for the toilet ;D


Ah, so Howard's a blumpkin man!

For those not following the history of the thread, there was a discussion of various tasteless sex acts.  Rule 34 demands that there exists at least one instance of porn of it, but apart from that, the Blumpkin, Donkey Punch, Dirty/Filthy Sanchez, and the Falcon Punch (not porn, but it falls into the same general category) are the canonical examples of acts that (apart from Rule 34) exist only on the internet as ongoing in-jokes, running gags, or more generally, as memes.

When in doubt about the meaning of anything, it can be found on the Urban Dictionary.

Hi!

Um. what exactly is a "donkey show"?  I keep hearing it being mentioned on Comedy Central, and I have no clue what it is. If you know, please tell me.

Thank you.


Well, that all depends on who is performing and who is the donkey.  :P

Clerks 2 had an unusual example, with a male performer, well, "servicing" the said animal.

The examples normally offered in places like TJ offer a human female performer.

And no, I have never seen one, nor do I want to.

"Alice In Wonderland - The Musical" (yes, a comedy musical porn movie based on "Alice In Wonderland") this is actually a great movie.

Almost anything by Andrew Blake, or Viv Thomas.  For Andrew Blake, I would reccomend the Night Trips series, Wet Dreams, or Secrets.  Viv Thomas is mostly known for lesbian erotica, but Room Service is one of his movies that is about half lesbian and hald heterosexual.  However, all of Viv Thomas' movies tend to be very sensual.

When it comes to the "Classic Films", it is often harder.  This is because most of the plots tend to revolve around a comedy.  The Opening Of Misty Beethoven has long been considered a classic, for many reasons.  So is Delicious, with Desiree Cousteau and Veronica Hart.  There are many others with plots, but I find them hard to describe as "sensual" because of some of the content.  Behind The Green Door has a lot of sensual elements, but it also revolves around a (possible) rape, and there is some male homosexuality.  Little Orphan Dusty is similar, with several very sensual scenes.  But the movie opens with a rape to open the setting.  "Every Woman Has A Fantasy" is often considered to be a classic "sensual" from the mid 1980's, complete with a Burt Reynolds look-alike, and the male star crossdressing to learn women's secrets (a'la Tootsie).  The "Taboo American Style" series was actually filmed in the style of a "TV Miniseries", with a twisted plot around fame, money, and revenge.  But the incest nature of the story also makes it hard to reccomend.

i'd definitely recommend the rinse dream movies "cafe flesh" and "nightdreams," heavily plotted psychodramas and they're pretty tasty too.  :P also a movie called "bad girls" and a movie called "ultraflesh" (seka as an alien sexpot sent to save the world from a villainous penile dysfunction ray directed on earth by an alien supervillain). a movie called "the devil inside her" from the 70s i quite like, although it regularly goes too far and creeps me out. but it's got a plot and is actually inspired by scandinavian fairy tales.

Hi!

I know an obnoxious amount about Michael Jackson and Prince, and I'm always looking to learn more.

Have either of them been in a pornographic movie?  ;D

Also, Prince's ex-grifriend Vanity made a movie called "Tanya's Island". (I haven't seen it) But would it be classified as soft porn, because I heard that there's quite a bit of nudity in it.

Thank you!

Hi!

I know an obnoxious amount about Michael Jackson and Prince, and I'm always looking to learn more.

Have either of them been in a pornographic movie?  ;D

Also, Prince's ex-grifriend Vanity made a movie called "Tanya's Island". (I haven't seen it) But would it be classified as soft porn, because I heard that there's quite a bit of nudity in it.

Thank you!


I am not aware of them making a movie, unless it is in the vein of R. Kelly's movie.  ;)

As far as "soft core", that is something that comes and goes.  But in reality, the term has basically lost it's meaning with todays ratings.  Movies like "Boogie Nights" that 25 years agou would have been X rated are barely blinked at as an R.  And even movies with real sex in them (Brown Bunny) get R ratings.

bringing this thread back after 4 years:

How does today's porn compare to the golden age of porn?

bringing this thread back after 4 years:

How does today's porn compare to the golden age of porn?


To be honest, porn today is absolute crap.

But I admit, that is only my own opinion.

Myself, I tend to view porn from the angel of somebody who is into erotica.  That is, somebody that appreciates the idea of sex, but is not obsessed about it.

I am a male, and I admit that I enjoy porn.  But I also enjoy good movies and literature.  If I was to try and watch a movie that was all violence or all humor, I would pretty much find it dull and boring.  To me porn is really no different.

If the movie is nothing but sex clip after sex clip, what is the point?  Might as well watch the first clip over and over again.  And part of the idea of story in the first place is to get us to identify with the character in the first place, is it not?

Back in the "Golden Age", story was a big consideration.  True, most of the movies were essentially comedies, but they were still considering story in addition to sex.  Today, the vast majority are nothing but sex.  I admit I occasionally look in "Adult Bookstores", and I honestly can say that not a single movie made interests me.  "4 Hours of XXX Mamacitas", or "The biggest black XXXXXXX You can imagine!" or "XXXX girls taking giant XXXX cXXs" holds absolutely no interest to me.

In short, Gonzo has taken over the industry.  And art and storytelling has gone by the wayside.  And even the "Not the" porn versions of satire can save them as far as I can see.

I think we need to put a lock on this thread so it will die in a hail of bullets.

I think we need to put a lock on this thread so it will die in a hail of bullets.


To bad that could not happen more often!!!!!

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/WankersAreNoughty/ron-jeremy.jpg

To be honest, porn today is absolute crap.

But I admit, that is only my own opinion.

Myself, I tend to view porn from the angel of somebody who is into erotica.  That is, somebody that appreciates the idea of sex, but is not obsessed about it.

I am a male, and I admit that I enjoy porn.  But I also enjoy good movies and literature.  If I was to try and watch a movie that was all violence or all humor, I would pretty much find it dull and boring.  To me porn is really no different.

If the movie is nothing but sex clip after sex clip, what is the point?  Might as well watch the first clip over and over again.  And part of the idea of story in the first place is to get us to identify with the character in the first place, is it not?

Back in the "Golden Age", story was a big consideration.  True, most of the movies were essentially comedies, but they were still considering story in addition to sex.  Today, the vast majority are nothing but sex.  I admit I occasionally look in "Adult Bookstores", and I honestly can say that not a single movie made interests me.  "4 Hours of XXX Mamacitas", or "The biggest black XXXXXXX You can imagine!" or "XXXX girls taking giant XXXX cXXs" holds absolutely no interest to me.

In short, Gonzo has taken over the industry.  And art and storytelling has gone by the wayside.  And even the "Not the" porn versions of satire can save them as far as I can see.


I agree Mushroom back then you could actually tell a story with porn and the titles were interesting.

To bad that could not happen more often!!!!!

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w100/WankersAreNoughty/ron-jeremy.jpg


Ron Jeremy is my hero!

I have a question:  Do the folks that make the porn title parodies have to pay the actual movie studios big bucks to mock the names?

ie: A Clockwork Orgy and Field of Wet Dreams

I agree Mushroom back then you could actually tell a story with porn and the titles were interesting.


True, and some were pretty surrealistic when it is all said and done.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Nightdreams_1981_video_cover.jpg

That is a classic example, and features a female performing with a dancing Cream of Wheat box, while a piece of toast dances and plays the saxophone.

Guaranteed you will see nothing like that today.

I have a question:  Do the folks that make the porn title parodies have to pay the actual movie studios big bucks to mock the names?

ie: A Clockwork Orgy and Field of Wet Dreams


Nope, because they are not actually using the name, and it also falls under the "Fair Use" law that covers satire and parody.  The makers of the recent strings of parody films have been sued repeatedly for "Copyright Infringement", and each and every time had the lawsuit thrown out of court.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=16156057246296102126&hl=en&as_sdt=2&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr

Dang if that's the case, when are they gonna make Rambo porn parodies?  I would definitely watch First Slut and Bimbo:  First Slut Part II

Dang if that's the case, when are they gonna make Rambo porn parodies?  I would definitely watch First Slut and Bimbo:  First Slut Part II


Wow, to bad you are almost 30 years to late.  :D

http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/05/908305h.jpg

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

I have never watched a porno movie, but, seriously, you AREN'T into S&M (BDSM)...not even online?  You are missing out, my friend...Go straight to the dungeon for a sound lashing with the Cat O' Nine!  Shall I wear leather...or latex?

I used to have those online guys awake (I have never practiced S&M in real life)...and waiting...until they were literally just about due for work!  They were only allowed a release at the last minute!  I was both a Mistress AND a Slave.  The years 1999 (?)-2001 were FUN for me, especially since I was rooming...alone!  I was able to remain innocent in real life, while being a total dominatrix online!
;) 


Ewwwwwwwwwww.
Now do I have any interest in B&D, S&M, or anything else along those lines.

True, and some were pretty surrealistic when it is all said and done.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Nightdreams_1981_video_cover.jpg

That is a classic example, and features a female performing with a dancing Cream of Wheat box, while a piece of toast dances and plays the saxophone.

Guaranteed you will see nothing like that today.


When you tell a story, the film becomes interesting.

Dang if that's the case, when are they gonna make Rambo porn parodies?  I would definitely watch First Slut and Bimbo:  First Slut Part II


But who are they going to cast in them?

Wow, to bad you are almost 30 years to late.  :D

http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/05/908305h.jpg


Ah Damn!

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

I have never watched a porno movie, but, seriously, you AREN'T into S&M (BDSM)...not even online?  You are missing out, my friend...Go straight to the dungeon for a sound lashing with the Cat O' Nine!  Shall I wear leather...or latex?

I used to have those online guys awake (I have never practiced S&M in real life)...and waiting...until they were literally just about due for work!  They were only allowed a release at the last minute!  I was both a Mistress AND a Slave.  The years 1999 (?)-2001 were FUN for me, especially since I was rooming...alone!  I was able to remain innocent in real life, while being a total dominatrix online!
;)


Valley, you've never watched a porn film? Are you kidding me?  ;D

Why did Debbie Do Dallas?

Can we find a way to put Max Hardcore back in prison? 

He's out and getting geared up.  I don't like him.
???

Wow, to bad you are almost 30 years to late.  :D

http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/05/908305h.jpg


Dang.  I need to watch this

Can we find a way to put Max Hardcore back in prison? 

He's out and getting geared up.  I don't like him.
???


Who's He?

Who shaved Trinity Loren?  :D

Who's He?


He is a producer of extreme porn who has been in and out of legal trouble for years.  In 2009 he was convicted and served a 3 year prison sentence for obscenity. 


In 2007, Little and his company, Max World Entertainment, Inc., were indicted by the United States Department of Justice Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section with five counts of transporting obscene matter by use of an interactive computer service and five counts of mailing obscene matter, relating to five movies showing fisting, urination and vomiting. Little was subsequently found guilty on all charges, and sentenced to 46 months in prison. On appeal, the 11th Circuit Court in Atlanta, Georgia upheld the conviction, but remanded his sentence. Little began serving his sentence on January 29, 2009.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore

Why didn't they think of razors in the 70's? I'm speaking of men and women back then.

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

Oh, no!  Are you really one of those guys who wants everybody to be shaven everywhere, so that they look as though they're under the age of 12?

I swear that if that's the attitude of MOST American men today, ALL American women might as well carry photocopies of "menus" in their back pockets, and that the menus might as well read thusly:

"MENU OPTIONS:

Natural
Natural (Color Option...Select color)
Triangle
Heart
Landing Strip
Other Shape, Symbol, or Logo
Bare

Check one..."

ARG, I'm SHURR!

I'm tellin' you that if some guy wants ME to look a certain way, he'd better ask me to make out a menu for him, and he'd better be willing to pay for ingrown hair treatment(s)!
8)





Why didn't they think of razors in the 70's? I'm speaking of men and women back then.

Oh, no!  Are you really one of those guys who wants everybody to be shaven everywhere, so that they look as though they're under the age of 12?

No, I was just a little curious.

He is a producer of extreme porn who has been in and out of legal trouble for years.  In 2009 he was convicted and served a 3 year prison sentence for obscenity. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Hardcore


He wasn't the first to do the extreme gonzo stuff, but he was the first to push it into the mainstream.  He changed the industry for the worse.  Extreme gonzo caught on with porn customers who, I guess, are sexually enraged and hate women.  There are a lot of them because MH wannabes popped up everywhere in the 1990s. 
::)

What do you think about the porn stars of yesteryear trying to make it in the business in 2013 compared to back then? ???

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

I don't think that they'd have been able to succeed today, because today, everybody has to be collagen-injected, liposuctioned, siliconed, and 110% bare down there, or they're not good enough to be a modern porn star!

Those old porn stars would also have to take TONS of pole-dancing lessons!
;)



What do you think about the porn stars of yesteryear trying to make it in the business in 2013 compared to back then? ???

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

I don't think that they'd have been able to succeed today, because today, everybody has to be collagen-injected, liposuctioned, siliconed, and 110% bare down there, or they're not good enough to be a modern porn star!

Those old porn stars would also have to take TONS of pole-dancing lessons!
;)


I agree, no one in the 70's never even heard of that.

What do you think about the porn stars of yesteryear trying to make it in the business in 2013 compared to back then? ???


Well, the biggest difference is that back then, they also had to be able to act.  Back in the "Golden Age", quite a few porn actors and actresses moved from mainstream movies to porn, or from porn to mainstream.  Kristine DeBell and Traci Lords come immediately to mind.  Back when these movies were shot on film and had real expenses involved with production and distribution, the performers really were actors.

Today, all you need is one guy with a camcorder and 1 or more people willing to perform on tape, and you have a porno.

I think most of the gold age performers would fail, because they were not "extreme" enough.  Not enough body art, body piercings, and a natural look, not the hyper-silicone-inflated fake Barbie doll look bad acting that is the norm today.

As for the body hair, that was just the style of the time.  Kind of like Burt Reynold's body hair or Tom Selleck's mustache or Gabe Kaplan's afro, that was just the norm of the era.

http://celebritysmackblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/ron-jeremy-1.jpg

Who is the oldest porn actor and actress living now?

Who is the oldest porn actor and actress living now?


Hard to say, since so many of the early ones were never credited.

Oldest I can think of are GLoria Leonard (72) and for men it would be Shigeo Tokuda.

What, never heard of Shigeo Tokuda?  Well, he is a porn actor in Japan, and at the age of 79 he is still active in the industry.

Hard to say, since so many of the early ones were never credited.

Oldest I can think of are GLoria Leonard (72) and for men it would be Shigeo Tokuda.

What, never heard of Shigeo Tokuda?  Well, he is a porn actor in Japan, and at the age of 79 he is still active in the industry.


Sorry, never heard of him.

Here's a question: Why is that in Japanese porn do they block crotch shots? You know, like put a black box over it? is doing that a sin in Japan?

Here's a question: Why is that in Japanese porn do they block crotch shots? You know, like put a black box over it? is doing that a sin in Japan?


Japan has laws outlawing the display of genitals and pubic hair.  This is why bukkake was started.

Japan has laws outlawing the display of genitals and pubic hair.  This is why bukkake was started.



Isn't bukake like where men join in a circle and all of them splash sperm all over the woman? ???

Sorry, never heard of him.


Well, as I said...  79 years old and still active in the industry.

http://www.whatsonningbo.com/news_images/71a6c90386954e1b_Shigeo-Tokuda-05.jpg



Isn't bukake like where men join in a circle and all of them splash sperm all over the woman? ???


And yea, that is exactly what it is.

http://www.ghastlycomic.com/comics/20020915.jpg

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Oh, holy...

So, they replaced the piece of bread with a woman in Japan?  Oooh, dear.  If the guy who holds out for the longest time has to eat the piece of BREAD, then I hate to think about what the guy who holds out for the longest time has to do to/ with the WOMAN!
:o




Isn't bukake like where men join in a circle and all of them splash sperm all over the woman? ???

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Oh, holy...

So, they replaced the piece of bread with a woman in Japan?  Oooh, dear.  If the guy who holds out for the longest time has to eat the piece of BREAD, then I hate to think about what the guy who holds out for the longest time has to do to/ with the WOMAN!
:o


What's bread have to do with sex?

What does the Japanese word "bukakke" stand for? ???

What does the Japanese word "bukakke" stand for? ???


"to splash".

"to splash".


Thanks Mush. :)

What's the best musical instrument to use in porn films to get the mood going?

What's the best musical instrument to use in porn films to get the mood going?


The Organ.....  ;D

Or brass instruments, coz they blow..or percussion instruments, coz they bang


(Sorry, couldn't resist)  :D

What's the best musical instrument to use in porn films to get the mood going?


How about all of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_STKjrN_g

The Organ.....  ;D

Or brass instruments, coz they blow..or percussion instruments, coz they bang


(Sorry, couldn't resist)  :D


;D

How about all of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c_STKjrN_g


What about the flute?

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

My, my, my!  I read about the "Bread-Soaking Game" AGES ago!  I can't believe that you never played that game with any guy friends years ago!

A group of guys would pin a piece of bread to a cork board, and then, each guy would try to, um, hold his fire, for as long as he could, and whenever somebody COULDN'T hold their fire, they'd feel as though they weren't the winner of the game.  When the last guy, who'd held his fire for the longest amount of time, finally soaked the already drenched piece of bread, he would believe himself to be the winner of the game...only to be ordered to eat the soaking wet piece of bread!

You can't tell me that you didn't at least play that game during high school, in college, or in an apartment/ club setting!

Of course, I never knew any guys who'd ever played that game...so I MIGHT believe you if you say that you never played that game before...LOL!
;)



What's bread have to do with sex?

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

My, my, my!  I read about the "Bread-Soaking Game" AGES ago!  I can't believe that you never played that game with any guy friends years ago!

A group of guys would pin a piece of bread to a cork board, and then, each guy would try to, um, hold his fire, for as long as he could, and whenever somebody COULDN'T hold their fire, they'd feel as though they weren't the winner of the game.  When the last guy, who'd held his fire for the longest amount of time, finally soaked the already drenched piece of bread, he would believe himself to be the winner of the game...only to be ordered to eat the soaking wet piece of bread!

You can't tell me that you didn't at least play that game during high school, in college, or in an apartment/ club setting!

Of course, I never knew any guys who'd ever played that game...so I MIGHT believe you if you say that you never played that game before...LOL!
;)


Why would I know about that game? never played it before with my friends and never even heard of it myself till you told me about it now.

Does food actually mix well with sex?

Does food actually mix well with sex?


Well, I had a girlfriend years ago who liked to wear candy necklaces, and have me nibble it off of her...  I guess that would count.

http://bestmomstv.com/files/2011/06/candy-necklace.jpg

Have you not seen 91/2 weeks?

Well, I had a girlfriend years ago who liked to wear candy necklaces, and have me nibble it off of her...  I guess that would count.

Chocolate spread works well...if you like chocolate spread, that is!

http://bestmomstv.com/files/2011/06/candy-necklace.jpg

My gutter-laden mind is drawn another kind of 'necklace'...can't think why! :-[ :D

Have you not seen 91/2 weeks?


Excellent film.

Well, I had a girlfriend years ago who liked to wear candy necklaces, and have me nibble it off of her...  I guess that would count.

http://bestmomstv.com/files/2011/06/candy-necklace.jpg


I meant like strawberries & cream, chocolate sauce... those sort of mixtures.

Chocolate spread works well...if you like chocolate spread, that is!

http://bestmomstv.com/files/2011/06/candy-necklace.jpg

My gutter-laden mind is drawn another kind of 'necklace'...can't think why! :-[ :D

I would use chocolate sauce somewhere else but I'll just keep it PG for now.  ;)

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

If anybody else has ever eaten vanilla curd, they'll know that THAT stuff would be good for food sex!  That stuff is sticky...beyond belief!  LOL!
;)

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

If anybody else has ever eaten vanilla curd, they'll know that THAT stuff would be good for food sex!  That stuff is sticky...beyond belief!  LOL!
;)


I'd rather try whipped cream.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr, Howard,

What about Vanilla Marshmallow Fluff, Strawberry Marshmallow Fluff, and Raspberry Marshmallow Fluff?  What about honey, peppermint ice cream, half and half, etc.? 

I'm suddenly hungry for peppermint ice cream!  Fer SHURR!  I sometimes drink the half and half at Denny's, 'cause that stuff is SO sinfully delish, I'm SHURR!
;)



I'd rather try whipped cream.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr, Howard,

What about Vanilla Marshmallow Fluff, Strawberry Marshmallow Fluff, and Raspberry Marshmallow Fluff?  What about honey, peppermint ice cream, half and half, etc.? 

I'm suddenly hungry for peppermint ice cream!  Fer SHURR!  I sometimes drink the half and half at Denny's, 'cause that stuff is SO sinfully delish, I'm SHURR!
;)


This is Howard you're talking to...don't get him excited!

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr, Howard,

What about Vanilla Marshmallow Fluff, Strawberry Marshmallow Fluff, and Raspberry Marshmallow Fluff?  What about honey, peppermint ice cream, half and half, etc.? 

I'm suddenly hungry for peppermint ice cream!  Fer SHURR!  I sometimes drink the half and half at Denny's, 'cause that stuff is SO sinfully delish, I'm SHURR!
;)


I'm not making a sundae! ;D

This is Howard you're talking to...don't get him excited!


Thanks Paul.  ;D

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

Oh, and they said that your erotic imagination was legendary...Was that ONLY a legend?  ;D

I didn't mean that you had to use the marshmallow fluff, the honey, the ice cream, and the half and half all at once!  Besides, I've NEVER put half and half on a sundae!  To put half and half on a sundae would just be blasphemy!

I should TRY that sometime, though...
;)



I'm not making a sundae! ;D

Have you not seen 91/2 weeks?



I have a copy of that movie on VHS. (Remember VHS?  ;) :D ;D ;D )



Cat

I have a copy of that movie on VHS. (Remember VHS?  ;) :D ;D ;D )

Cat


At least you did not say you had it on Beta.  :P

Mamma Mia!! Amanda Seyfried is going to star as Linda Lovelace  :o
http://media.melty.fr/article-1612454-ajust_930/lovelace-retrace-l-histoire-de-linda-alias.jpg

oh yeah, I'm supposed to ask a question. so as porn goes, is Deep Throat one of the best films ever?

Mamma Mia!! Amanda Seyfried is going to star as Linda Lovelace  :o
http://media.melty.fr/article-1612454-ajust_930/lovelace-retrace-l-histoire-de-linda-alias.jpg

oh yeah, I'm supposed to ask a question. so as porn goes, is Deep Throat one of the best films ever?


Actually, I found it rather silly, and with some things that were rather...  tasteless.  However, it was one of the first 2 movies to go "mainstream", and set up the "Golden Age of Porn".  It was also the first movie to show women in control, and not as victims.

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

Oh, and they said that your erotic imagination was legendary...Was that ONLY a legend?  ;D

I didn't mean that you had to use the marshmallow fluff, the honey, the ice cream, and the half and half all at once!  Besides, I've NEVER put half and half on a sundae!  To put half and half on a sundae would just be blasphemy!

I should TRY that sometime, though...
;)


try it, you might like it. ;D

Mamma Mia!! Amanda Seyfried is going to star as Linda Lovelace  :o
http://media.melty.fr/article-1612454-ajust_930/lovelace-retrace-l-histoire-de-linda-alias.jpg

oh yeah, I'm supposed to ask a question. so as porn goes, is Deep Throat one of the best films ever?


Did you see that film, Mush?  ???

Was watching porn better to watch on VHS or on the internet now? ???

Was watching porn better to watch on VHS or on the internet now? ???


Let me put it this way:  Turn off the computer.  And the smartphone.  Put the iPad away.  Unplug the cable from the TV, because 9 1/2 Weeks was a fun movie, but that was as explicit as things got, even on cable.  On broadcast TV, you couldn't even see a boob.  Now ask that question again. 

And try not to ask how the hell people of our generation got anything out of waiting 5 minutes in the hopes that video like this would somehow resolve itself into a boob :)

http://www.galeon.com/regy/archivos/principal/ssavi.jpg

The answer is "VHS pr0n is the bestest thing ever in the history of ever!  It's like pr0n in magazines, but the pictures are moving!"  And back in the day, the magazines were... well... also the bestest thing in the history of ever:

http://i.imgur.com/Hypl2yo.jpg

Same as Internet pr0n (which was like VHS pr0n, but you didn't have to pay for it nor wait for your wife (if you were a silent or boomer) or friend's parents (if you were an Xer) to go away so you could bring your VCR over to your friend's house to copy the tapes.  Nobody under the age of 30 has ever been more than a mouse click away from seeing any pr0n they wanted. 

Same as the holodeck, when someone invents it.  (And in 2025, someone will wonder how the hell any of us ever got anything out of looking at animations displayed on a flat screen without a neurolink.)

Did you see that film, Mush?  ???


Yea, that and The Devil In Miss Jones were the first 2 porn movies I ever saw.  They were showing as a double feature right after I turned 18, so I went down to Hollywood to see them.


Was watching porn better to watch on VHS or on the internet now? ???


Actually, I think I preferred the theatres.  Something about seeing them 30' tall on the screen was so different.


Let me put it this way:  Turn off the computer.  And the smartphone.  Put the iPad away.  Unplug the cable from the TV, because 9 1/2 Weeks was a fun movie, but that was as explicit as things got, even on cable.  On broadcast TV, you couldn't even see a boob.  Now ask that question again. 

And try not to ask how the hell people of our generation got anything out of waiting 5 minutes in the hopes that video like this would somehow resolve itself into a boob :)

http://www.galeon.com/regy/archivos/principal/ssavi.jpg

The answer is "VHS pr0n is the bestest thing ever in the history of ever!  It's like pr0n in magazines, but the pictures are moving!"  And back in the day, the magazines were... well... also the bestest thing in the history of ever:

http://i.imgur.com/Hypl2yo.jpg

Same as Internet pr0n (which was like VHS pr0n, but you didn't have to pay for it nor wait for your wife (if you were a silent or boomer) or friend's parents (if you were an Xer) to go away so you could bring your VCR over to your friend's house to copy the tapes.  Nobody under the age of 30 has ever been more than a mouse click away from seeing any pr0n they wanted. 

Same as the holodeck, when someone invents it.  (And in 2025, someone will wonder how the hell any of us ever got anything out of looking at animations displayed on a flat screen without a neurolink.)


Back in LA in the day there were 2 services, OnTV and SelecTV.  Both were "Over The Air" paid services, kinda like HBO for people who lived in areas that did not have cable yet.  However, the signals were broadcast through UHF, and you needed a scrambler box to see them clearly.  But I remember sometimes late at night watching a picture like yours there, watching some edited softcore release of a porn movie hoping to see something.

Today, with everything available with the click of a mouse, porn is very different.

At least you did not say you had it on Beta.  :P



Going off on a tangent here: I actually got my dad's Beta machine-but no tapes to play on it.  :-\\  Gonna sell it-they go quite high on eBay.


Ok, back to the topic.


Cat

http://Yea, that and The Devil In Miss Jones were the first 2 porn movies I ever saw.  They were showing as a double feature right after I turned 18, so I went down to Hollywood to see them.

I think that's the film with one of the actresses charming a snake? ???

Why did they used to call "Gonzo" porn and what is Gonzo? ???

I think that's the film with one of the actresses charming a snake? ???


Well, that is one way to phrase it, and yes that is the movie.


Why did they used to call "Gonzo" porn and what is Gonzo? ???


Gonzo porn started in the early 1990's, with such series as "Buttman" and "Bus Stop Tales", and took it's name from Gonzo Journalism.  This is where the film producers themselves are part of the action.  POV shots and interaction between the girl and the producer-crew is typical in this genre.

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/61500/Gonzo-and-Animal-in-a-Car--61567.jpg

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

"Buttman"?  ROTFLOL!  ;D  Did he give other people anal, or did he TAKE it in the butt, or did he do BOTH?

Somebody should really make a porno about The Tiddy Bear that they tried to sell as an infomercial item awhile back!  ;D

Why did they used to call "Gonzo" porn and what is Gonzo? ???


I'll amplify on Mushroom's take.

Before Gonzo, there was a semblance of a plot.  If you had a plot to your movie, however thin, you could claim it was an artistic work.  That got you some leeway in the Miller Test: If it doesn't lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value, it's OK if it appeas to the prurient interest and/or is a patently offensive depiction of sexual conduct.

A series of court decisions lightened those standards over the decades since 1973, and gonzo was the result: "Look, here's people having sex.  You want wall-to-wall-YOUR-FETISH-HERE?  Fine.  Now that we aren't shooting on expensive film, now that videotape and digital make shooting video dirt cheap, we're not going to waste an hour of our (expensive - the lighting guy, the sound guy, the sets guy...) time trying to get 5 minutes of scene-setting or trying to have these people utter more than a few words of dialogue!  We're going to give someone a handicam and fill the damn tape with naked people doing the boingy-boingy.  In fact, I'm gonna fire the cameraman, too!  I'll hold the damn camera myself!"

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

"Buttman"?  ROTFLOL!  ;D  Did he give other people anal, or did he TAKE it in the butt, or did he do BOTH?

Somebody should really make a porno about The Tiddy Bear that they tried to sell as an infomercial item awhile back!  ;D


HA HA HA! ;D or make a porn film called "Hairy Potter" (Harry Potter)

Why is it in softcore porn or like those HBO or Showtime adult late night shows, they don't show much like when a guy or girl cups his hand to simulate the sex?

HA HA HA! ;D or make a porn film called "Hairy Potter" (Harry Potter)


Yea, staring Ron Jeremy.


Why is it in softcore porn or like those HBO or Showtime adult late night shows, they don't show much like when a guy or girl cups his hand to simulate the sex?


This dates back to FCC rules.

The tradition since the early days of cable was limited to R rated movies.  No actual sex, "soft core" movies, simulated sex.  And because of jurisdictional rules this is still the norm to this day.  And HBO was not interested in breaking this tradition, and risk loosing distribution in states where pornography was illegal.

Then you had companies like The Playboy Channel which followed the same formula, just showing those soft core (ore edited hard core) movies 24-7.  But by the late 1990's you had full porn movies on satellite, and that pretty much changed all the rules.

Today they are pretty much ignored, even though technically they are supposed to block any broadcasts of say full porn in Utah if you are a DirecTV subscriber.  However, nothing stops a person from saying they live in Nevada when they start their subscription and getting it all anyways.  Ot just getting it on the Internet.

Plus these movies are still made for distribution overseas in countries where the laws are more strict.

If you could come up with a fake name for a porn film, how many could you come up with?

for example: Kingdom Cum (Come)

"Hairy" Potter, The Princess And The Pee (Pea) (Rump)lestilskin

Why do the Japanese like Billy Herrington's movies so much?

Utah


Which is, itself, kinda funny.  In 2009, someone wondered which states had the biggest pr0n businesses, and it turned out that the redder the state, the more likely it is to have people who actually pay for pr0n, and Utah is #1 in that department.

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

1.) "The 12 Lap Dancing Princesses" (The 12 Dancing Princesses)
2.) "Handsel In Gretel" (Hansel and Gretel)
3.) "Sleeping Booty" (Sleeping Beauty)
4.) "Racumzel" (Rapunzel)
5.) "The Flogged Prince" (The Frog Prince)
6.) "Poke Her Hot Ass" (Pocahontas)
7.) "Booty and The Beast" (Beauty and The Beast)
8.) "Lay Mister Rob" (Les Miserables)
9.) "Star Whores" (Star Wars)
10.) "Candle Screw" (Disney's Candleshoe)

I could list more, but that wouldn't be fair of me... ;D
;)









If you could come up with a fake name for a porn film, how many could you come up with?

for example: Kingdom Cum (Come)

"Hairy" Potter, The Princess And The Pee (Pea) (Rump)lestilskin

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

1.) "The 12 Lap Dancing Princesses" (The 12 Dancing Princesses)
2.) "Handsel In Gretel" (Hansel and Gretel)
3.) "Sleeping Booty" (Sleeping Beauty)
4.) "Racumzel" (Rapunzel)
5.) "The Flogged Prince" (The Frog Prince)
6.) "Poke Her Hot Ass" (Pocahontas)
7.) "Booty and The Beast" (Beauty and The Beast)
8.) "Lay Mister Rob" (Les Miserables)
9.) "Star Whores" (Star Wars)
10.) "Candle Screw" (Disney's Candleshoe)

I could list more, but that wouldn't be fair of me... ;D
;)


OMG! That is funny!  ;D

If you could come up with a fake name for a porn film, how many could you come up with?

for example: Kingdom Cum (Come)

"Hairy" Potter, The Princess And The Pee (Pea) (Rump)lestilskin


Oh my goodness, to easy!

The Fantastic Foursome
12 Horny Monkeys
The Poonies
Laying Private Ryan
Shaving Ryan's Privates
The Shaved-Skank Redemption
Indiana Boner and the Rapers of the Lost Ark
Indiana Boner and the Temple of Poon
Indiana Boner and the Lust Crusade
Indiana Boner And the Crystal Skullfudge
Dude, Where's My Cherry?
The Bare Bitch Project
Glad He Ate Her
The Gang Bangs of New York
The Slutty Professor
The Slutty Professor 2: The Skanks
Wet Dreams May Cum
When Harry Boned Sally
The Wet Dream Before Christmas
The Queef
The Queef 2:  Hard Ride
Gilligan's Bi-Land
Those Magnificent Men in Their fudgeing Machines, or How I fudgeed from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes
The 5,000 Fingerings of Miss T

And Finally:

Men Who Dare With Goats

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/271/5/e/princess_and_the_pea_by_j_scott_campbell-d2yr845.jpg

CREDIT: J. Scott Campbell's Deviant Art page

Sooo cool, fer SHURR!
;)

Like, Hi, Mushroom, Fer Shurr,

Those are all cool, but the next to last is my favorite; epic!
;D


Those Magnificent Men in Their fudgeing Machines, or How I fudgeed from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes

Oh my goodness, to easy!

The Fantastic Foursome
12 Horny Monkeys
The Poonies
Laying Private Ryan
Shaving Ryan's Privates
The Shaved-Skank Redemption
Indiana Boner and the Rapers of the Lost Ark
Indiana Boner and the Temple of Poon
Indiana Boner and the Lust Crusade
Indiana Boner And the Crystal Skullfudge
Dude, Where's My Cherry?
The Bare Bitch Project
Glad He Ate Her
The Gang Bangs of New York
The Slutty Professor
The Slutty Professor 2: The Skanks
Wet Dreams May Cum
When Harry Boned Sally
The Wet Dream Before Christmas
The Queef
The Queef 2:  Hard Ride
Gilligan's Bi-Land
Those Magnificent Men in Their fudgeing Machines, or How I fudgeed from London to Paris in 25 hours 11 minutes
The 5,000 Fingerings of Miss T

And Finally:

Men Who Dare With Goats


and there hasn't been one actor yet to star in them.  ;D

Shaving Ryan's Privates


Don't ask me how I know this, but that IS in fact an actual movie!

MTA: It co-starred James Michael Tyler (Gunther on "Friends").

Don't ask me how I know this, but that IS in fact an actual movie!

MTA: It co-starred James Michael Tyler (Gunther on "Friends").


and I read that it was a spoof on the original film.

Don't ask me how I know this, but that IS in fact an actual movie!




It's your secret career as a movie extra?

Don't ask me how I know this, but that IS in fact an actual movie!

MTA: It co-starred James Michael Tyler (Gunther on "Friends").


I am not surprised.  I know of one other movie in that list which is actually a real title, but I could not resist throwing it in.  I remember because a guy came in the pawn shop I worked at one day and tried to sell us a box of around 50 porn movies, and that was one of them.  And the name always stuck with me for some reason (and no, we did not buy the tapes).

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-A16sgfHLrC8/T0D0QCoGrcI/AAAAAAAAGgo/won8iRoA4sI/s640/Giligan's+Island+1.jpg

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

So...what does everybody think about the work of J. Scott Campbell?  I wish that I looked like a more friendly rendition of one of his heroines!


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2010/262/3/4/jscs_fairytale_fantasies_bc_by_j_scott_campbell-d25n37b.jpg

;)

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

So...what does everybody think about the work of J. Scott Campbell?  I wish that I looked like a more friendly rendition of one of his heroines!


http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2010/262/3/4/jscs_fairytale_fantasies_bc_by_j_scott_campbell-d25n37b.jpg

;)


I think it's a cool piece of ass.. um art! ;)

What is it that you don't like about porn? ???

What is it that you don't like about porn? ???


I do not like it when women are degraded or treated like objects or worse.

If you look at a lot of the movies in the classics era, quite often the women were the ones in charge.  Deep Throat and The Opening of Misty Beethoven come immediately to mind there.  Most of them had very strong female characters, with the exception of the "Daffy Oblivious" types, such as was often played by Desiree Cousteau (Pretty Peaches).

Today, the market is absolutely flooded with what to me seems horribly exploitive.  Women are nothing but objects to be used for sex, and are disposable and interchangeable.  Reality Kings seems to thrive on this, with series like "Bang Bus", where they "pick up" a female, promise her money in exchange for sex, then kick her out with no money on the side of the road (sometimes taking all of her clothes and even her purse as they leave).

This is the cesspool of what most of "modern porn" has become, and I can't stand it.

I think one of the best things about the "classic era" is that storytelling really was important.  And in many ways it really was "Guerrilla Filmmaking".  Budgets were small, but stories were still important as a way to get past a lot of the obscenity laws.  And a lot of the films were actually quite good in and of themselves, although the sex did not hurt either.  ::)

And a lot of conventional filmmakers got their start in porn.  Sean S. Cunningham (Friday the 13th) got his start making porn films, as did Wes Craven.  And a great many others are rumored, but the use of pseudonyms means most are never really identified.

I do not like it when women are degraded or treated like objects or worse.



This is why I never watch porn. Same thing if the men are treated like objects or worse.

What was the range of years of what is considered the 'golden age' of porn.

It's your secret career as a movie extra?


In the business I'm known as Larry Goodwood. ;) :D ;D

I think one of the best things about the "classic era" is that storytelling really was important.

Exactly, storytelling was definitely important back then. You could tell a good story that leads to the sex. That's what gets people interested.

What was the range of years of what is considered the 'golden age' of porn.


I'd say between 1970-1985, What you say, Mush? ???

What was the range of years of what is considered the 'golden age' of porn.



I'd say between 1970-1985, What you say, Mush? ???


I would place it more like 1970-1992.  But the cracks were appearing by 1985, that is for sure.

What really started to kill it was the advent of videotape.  When it was made on film and distributed to theatres, you had to have story and real acting.  Making a 60-90 minute movie with film required real acting, and cost some real money to make and distribute.

Then in the mid 1980's we saw some "greatest hits" type tapes come out, where they were nothing but clips from movies with some narration thrown in to tie them all together.  And during the same period some movies were produced on videotape specifically for the video tape market, but were still made in the old style, with story and acting.

But by the end of the 1990's, that too started to change.  The adult theatres all died off, and videotape was the primary means of production and distribution.  And all attempts at story vanished, now shifting to the "240 minutes all sex" style.  Not even an attempt at story, just sex scene after sex scene, with girls who were largely anonymous and replaceable.

Lately there have been attempts at recreating the older style, with the XXX Parody movies, but even those are nowhere near the same.  The soft focus and any attempt at "romance" were gone, the setting was just a new hook to string the sex scenes together.

On a "classic movie", the sex to acting ratio was around 4 to 1, with 4 minutes of acting for every 1 minute of sex.  In modern movies with real acting, it is the reverse, 4 minutes of sex for every 1 minute of acting.  And they are only loosely playing to the nostalgia crowd, guys who wanted to see Shaggy get it on with Velma, or Tasha Yar getting it on with Data.  Mildly entertaining, but when I see one I fast forward through the sex scenes, trying to find any kind of story.

I would place it more like 1970-1992.  But the cracks were appearing by 1985, that is for sure.

What really started to kill it was the advent of videotape.  When it was made on film and distributed to theatres, you had to have story and real acting.  Making a 60-90 minute movie with film required real acting, and cost some real money to make and distribute.

Then in the mid 1980's we saw some "greatest hits" type tapes come out, where they were nothing but clips from movies with some narration thrown in to tie them all together.  And during the same period some movies were produced on videotape specifically for the video tape market, but were still made in the old style, with story and acting.

But by the end of the 1990's, that too started to change.  The adult theatres all died off, and videotape was the primary means of production and distribution.  And all attempts at story vanished, now shifting to the "240 minutes all sex" style.  Not even an attempt at story, just sex scene after sex scene, with girls who were largely anonymous and replaceable.

Lately there have been attempts at recreating the older style, with the XXX Parody movies, but even those are nowhere near the same.  The soft focus and any attempt at "romance" were gone, the setting was just a new hook to string the sex scenes together.

On a "classic movie", the sex to acting ratio was around 4 to 1, with 4 minutes of acting for every 1 minute of sex.  In modern movies with real acting, it is the reverse, 4 minutes of sex for every 1 minute of acting.  And they are only loosely playing to the nostalgia crowd, guys who wanted to see Shaggy get it on with Velma, or Tasha Yar getting it on with Data.  Mildly entertaining, but when I see one I fast forward through the sex scenes, trying to find any kind of story.


Karma for the answer. 8)

I'd say between 1970-1985, What you say, Mush? ???


So basically the 70s and 80s.

So basically the 70s and 80s.


I'd say the late 80's,videotapes were dying and soon to be replaced by CD's

What's your take on black porn actresses appearing in film?

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

I think that today's porn more than likely welcomes everybody, but when you mentioned Black actresses, I immediately remembered my online S&M master, who was constantly bothering me about the fact that he wanted me to find him an African American Submissive!  I never could seem to find that AA Sub for him, but he kept ordering me to find her, so I kept looking...every night...(?)
8)

Like, Hi, Howard, Fer Shurr,

I think that today's porn more than likely welcomes everybody, but when you mentioned Black actresses, I immediately remembered my online S&M master, who was constantly bothering me about the fact that he wanted me to find him an African American Submissive!  I never could seem to find that AA Sub for him, but he kept ordering me to find her, so I kept looking...every night...(?)
8)


could you find me a black submissive? LOL ;)

someone that could whip me into shape!

What's your take on black porn actresses appearing in film?


I actually think it is fine, but remember my take goes back primarily to the classic age.

There have been several big names in the industry who were black, Desiree West and Angel Kelly come immediately to mind.  Both were very hot, good actresses, and had long careers.

http://www.fooks.com/stardata/StarClips/R/RobertaPedon/images/Desiree%20West%20-%20Ed_BCST_AM_BG1.jpg

http://images.excaliburfilms.com/pornlist/starpicsAA020309/Angel_Kelly.jpg

Both of these ladies were among the real superstars of the era.

I actually think it is fine, but remember my take goes back primarily to the classic age.

There have been several big names in the industry who were black, Desiree West and Angel Kelly come immediately to mind.  Both were very hot, good actresses, and had long careers.

http://www.fooks.com/stardata/StarClips/R/RobertaPedon/images/Desiree%20West%20-%20Ed_BCST_AM_BG1.jpg

http://images.excaliburfilms.com/pornlist/starpicsAA020309/Angel_Kelly.jpg

Both of these ladies were among the real superstars of the era.


I see both of them are still alive and retired.

How does an actor/actress get into the AVN Hall of Fame? ???

How does an actor/actress get into the AVN Hall of Fame? ???


Pretty much by making a lot of money, and being remembered for more then 90 days after you retired.

Like, Hi, Howard,

Well, okay, but first, you'll have to tell me which of my names you like more: Mistress Mintrix, or Nurse Karen Iceway?
;)



could you find me a black submissive? LOL ;)

someone that could whip me into shape!

Like, Hi, Howard,

Well, okay, but first, you'll have to tell me which of my names you like more: Mistress Mintrix, or Nurse Karen Iceway?
;)


Mistress Mintrix, I guess. ???

Actually, just released today:  Hairy Punter and His Enormous Boner

Actually, just released today:  Hairy Punter and His Enormous Boner


Oh Wow! are you kidding me?  :o


;D

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

;D ;D ;D
8)



Actually, just released today:  Hairy Punter and His Enormous Boner

What really started to kill it was the advent of videotape.  When it was made on film and distributed to theatres, you had to have story and real acting.  Making a 60-90 minute movie with film required real acting, and cost some real money to make and distribute..

On a "classic movie", the sex to acting ratio was around 4 to 1, with 4 minutes of acting for every 1 minute of sex.  In modern movies with real acting, it is the reverse, 4 minutes of sex for every 1 minute of acting.  And they are only loosely playing to the nostalgia crowd, guys who wanted to see Shaggy get it on with Velma, or Tasha Yar getting it on with Data.  Mildly entertaining, but when I see one I fast forward through the sex scenes, trying to find any kind of story.


You know, I just realized something else.  If you're talking about film or even early videotape, this is content where how good the video looks is important, so you're talking about 60-90 minutes, which was typically broken up into 4-5 scenes of 10-15 minutes apiece.

Just as 74-minute CDs replaced 40-minute vinyl records (huh-huh, I almost said "12-inch"!) with the same 2-3 good songs, but the amount of filler expanded to fill the disc, we're now in the age when a DVD/Blu-Ray offers 2-4 hours of video, but because the performers get paid per scene (and because a 4-hour DVD costs the same as a 4-hour movie to distribute), there's incentive on the part of producers to fill all that extra time with 2-3 scenes... of 30-45 minutes apiece.

Unlike the days of film or videotape, diskspace (or streaming bandwidth) is free.  30 years ago, a skilled director could edit that 30-45 minutes of material down to the moments that actually matter, today's director (whose editing work also costs money) typically just lets the camera fill the alotted time, because the actors are paid the same amount either way.  So instead of seeing only those moments where the performers were actually working well, consumers get an effectively unedited stream of 5 minutes of bumping uglies in position X, another 5 in position Y, and all the moments were the actors have an expression on their face best described as "beige, I think they should have painted this ceiling beige"...

Oh Wow! are you kidding me?  :o


;D


Nope.  I tried to find an image I could post here, but all I could find would get me some nasty words from moderators.  However, here is the description right from the Brazzer's web page (typo and all):

Ever since he wrapped things up with the evilest wizard in the land, Hairy's been causing all kinds of trouble. Even a second stay at Hogwarts School for Jizzards isn't helping. He's been tranforming his classmates into dildos, and conjuring up hot pieces of ass to bang. Check out his masterwork: a redheaded fudgedoll with big natural tits and a sweet ass for him to stuff full of his massive wand.

Trust me, there is no way I could make something like that up!

You know, I just realized something else.  If you're talking about film or even early videotape, this is content where how good the video looks is important, so you're talking about 60-90 minutes, which was typically broken up into 4-5 scenes of 10-15 minutes apiece.


In the classic era, it was more like 10 minutes of dialog-acting, then 3-5 minutes of sex (often with acting and dialog in the middle).  Unlike today where 30 minute marathon single sessions are often common, back then it was quite condensed, with anything beyond 5 normally considered excessive.

In fact, in some movies short scenes often lasted less then a minute.  And no, I am not kidding.  In "The Opening of Misty Beethoven", you have an 84 minute film with an IAFD listing of 27 sex scenes.

http://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=opening+of+misty+beethoven/year=1975/opening-of-misty-beethoven.htm

And many of them are just short inserts as part of the story, 10-15 seconds long each, several different ones in a row.

Nope.  I tried to find an image I could post here, but all I could find would get me some nasty words from moderators.  However, here is the description right from the Brazzer's web page (typo and all):

Trust me, there is no way I could make something like that up!


;D

Whatever became of Bambi Woods? Do you know the whereabouts? ???

Whatever became of Bambi Woods? Do you know the whereabouts? ???


Nobody really knows who she was, or where she has gone.  She literally came out of nowhere, performed in 2 movies as the same character, then vanished.  Not to unusual in the industry, but she was so enigmatic because her only major movie also became one of the biggest hits in porn.

Nobody really knows who she was, or where she has gone.  She literally came out of nowhere, performed in 2 movies as the same character, then vanished.  Not to unusual in the industry, but she was so enigmatic because her only major movie also became one of the biggest hits in porn.



and she never realized how big of a star she became after Debbie Does Dallas.

and she never realized how big of a star she became after Debbie Does Dallas.


Most theories describe her as a drug using drifter hippie chick.  In fact, most theories of the time state that she had died of a drug overdose.  This was later shown to be false, but still nobody really knew who she was (this was before all the mandatory age and birth confirmation mandated after the Traci Lords scandal).

Since most actresses used stage names, quite a few simply vanished into normal life after they had short careers.  And the industry was full of girls that simply made 1 or 2 movies then were never heard from again.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Isn't it just logical to assume that Bambi went back to the woods?
;D ;D ;D

In the seventies there were lots of x-rated drive-ins.  Don't forget the drive-ins.  A lot of towns wouldn't let theaters screen pornos in town, but you could set up a drive-in theater out in the sticks and show skin flicks.  I never went to one because they'd all died out by the time I was old enough. 

Fans of the Golden Age will tell you you they liked the stuff with real acting and plots.  But let's face it.  Most of it was totally awful.  There were a few porn actors/actresses who could act, but most looked totally goofy, the plots were dumb, and the music was ridiculous. 
:D

and she never realized how big of a star she became after Debbie Does Dallas.


That's like the Gone With The Wind or Avatar of the porn industry world. A huge blockbuster!

Most theories describe her as a drug using drifter hippie chick.  In fact, most theories of the time state that she had died of a drug overdose.  This was later shown to be false, but still nobody really knew who she was (this was before all the mandatory age and birth confirmation mandated after the Traci Lords scandal).

Since most actresses used stage names, quite a few simply vanished into normal life after they had short careers.  And the industry was full of girls that simply made 1 or 2 movies then were never heard from again.


like most porn actresses from yesteryear are still alive, most of them retired or still into porn making films or have a different occupation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8wBMDbNRTU


Here she is in 1979 in an interview, she is unrecognizable with brunette hair.

Why do strippers need money shoved in their face?

Why do strippers need money shoved in their face?


Actually, they do not.  In general placing it on the rail or on the stage is the accepted etiquette to be used when tipping dancers.  And like anybody else, they are simply trying to make a living.

In most clubs, the dancer is only paid tips, and has to split them with the house.  Some clubs to pay a wage, but not many and rarely anything other then minimum wage.

In most clubs, the dancer is only paid tips, and has to split them with the house.  Some clubs to pay a wage, but not many and rarely anything other than minimum wage.


And the one most notable exception to that rule has finally closed down, on account of its neighbors raising its rent. 

I never understood the appeal of strip clubs as anything other than a place to hang out, drink beer with your friends, and see boobs in real-live-3D-humanvision in an age when the Internet didn't exist.  Still, I think we've lost something with the disappearance of a place like that.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

What do you think of the following 1984 porno movie? 

http://i2.listal.com/image/91273/600full-a-little-bit-of...-hanky-panky-poster.jpg

I've never seen the movie; I only know about it because the poster image is featured in a 1980s advertising book that I own.
;)

Actually, they do not.  In general placing it on the rail or on the stage is the accepted etiquette to be used when tipping dancers.  And like anybody else, they are simply trying to make a living.

In most clubs, the dancer is only paid tips, and has to split them with the house.  Some clubs to pay a wage, but not many and rarely anything other then minimum wage.


I wish you could show them food instead of money, how many strippers accept that?  ;D

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

What do you think of the following 1984 porno movie? 

http://i2.listal.com/image/91273/600full-a-little-bit-of...-hanky-panky-poster.jpg

I've never seen the movie; I only know about it because the poster image is featured in a 1980s advertising book that I own.
;)


I know Jamie Gillis, Bunny Bleu and Ginger Lynn.

And the one most notable exception to that rule has finally closed down, on account of its neighbors raising its rent. 

I never understood the appeal of strip clubs as anything other than a place to hang out, drink beer with your friends, and see boobs in real-live-3D-humanvision in an age when the Internet didn't exist.  Still, I think we've lost something with the disappearance of a place like that.


Actually, I work right around the corner from there, and have walked by it a few times.  It is an ugly eyesore, trying to make it in a neighborhood where both Hustler and Penthouse have upscale clubs.  Lusty Lady was ugly the last time I went inside in 1991, and it is in even worse shape now, I refused to even walk inside last time I walked by it.

And no, I would hardly call it a "co-op".  That is just putting a fancy name on the fact that the 2 dancers are also the owners.  That is like I get a partner and we open a computer store together, and that makes it a "Co-op".

But actually, I have worked for a club that did pay the dancers a salary, as well as having a tip-sharing system.  In addition they offered medical-dental-vision, as well as 401K and free gym membership for all dancers (the rest of us got all benefits except for the gym membership).  But to me the salary was nothing, literally chump change when my tip-out at the end of a shift was normally from $150-350 a day (and that was as a DJ, dancers made considerably more, $1,500 days for them were not unheard of).

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

What do you think of the following 1984 porno movie? 

http://i2.listal.com/image/91273/600full-a-little-bit-of...-hanky-panky-poster.jpg

I've never seen the movie; I only know about it because the poster image is featured in a 1980s advertising book that I own.
;)


I may have, or may not have seen it.  That is one of three movies that was made at the same time, along with Pink Lagoon and Surrender In Paradise.  All 3 movies were shot together, with mostly the same cast and a few script changes.  And if I remember right, these were Ginger Lynn's first movies and she turned 21 while on the set.

But yea, that is a typical period video cover, taken from the poster.

http://images.moviepostershop.com/a-little-bit-of-hanky-panky-movie-poster-1984-1020214047.jpg

I may have, or may not have seen it.  That is one of three movies that was made at the same time, along with Pink Lagoon and Surrender In Paradise.  All 3 movies were shot together, with mostly the same cast and a few script changes.  And if I remember right, these were Ginger Lynn's first movies and she turned 21 while on the set.

But yea, that is a typical period video cover, taken from the poster.

http://images.moviepostershop.com/a-little-bit-of-hanky-panky-movie-poster-1984-1020214047.jpg


from this cover the 2 people that are alive are Ginger Lynn http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Bunny_bleu0001.jpg who will be 50 next year. Stacy Donovan might still alive according to wiki, Ginger Lynn is alive she'll be 51 in December http://www.starscolor.com/images/ginger-lynn-allen-02.jpg and the others, I don't know.

And no, I would hardly call it a "co-op".  That is just putting a fancy name on the fact that the 2 dancers are also the owners.  That is like I get a partner and we open a computer store together, and that makes it a "Co-op".


Good point.  The pictures in the linked articles were pretty horrifying; then again, so were the strip clubs I remember from my college days, and those were merely the sort of clubs that catered to those who wanted nothing more than to sit around a table in a dimly-lit bar drinking beer and eating wings while ogling boobs.  Table dances at the time were strictly no-contact which was, in retrospect, for the best for all concerned :)

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Like, BARF ME OUT! GAG ME WITH A SPOON!

That recent photo of...Ginger...makes me want to ask somebody to...NO, to DEMAND that somebody pass the barf bucket...IMMEDIATELY!  If I were a porn star, I'd go into retirement at about the age of 40, and I'd get a brand new career, and I'd bill myself as a completely different TYPE of person, saying, "Yea, I WAS 'Candy Fresh Kiss'...about 10 years ago, but NOW, I'm your local Avon lady!"

I mean...REALLY!
:o

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Like, BARF ME OUT! GAG ME WITH A SPOON!

That recent photo of...Ginger...makes me want to ask somebody to...NO, to DEMAND that somebody pass the barf bucket...IMMEDIATELY!  If I were a porn star, I'd go into retirement at about the age of 40, and I'd get a brand new career, and I'd bill myself as a completely different TYPE of person, saying, "Yea, I WAS 'Candy Fresh Kiss'...about 10 years ago, but NOW, I'm your local Avon lady!"

I mean...REALLY!
:o


Well, some of the gals knew when to get out, and did that.

After about 5 years, Kristara Barrington left the industry and is now a veterinarian.

Desiree Cousteau retired after 4 years, is now an accredited child psychologist.

Wendy O. Williams continued to perform with The Plasmatics.

And of course Harry Reems died this year, after spending the last decades as a real estate agent.

Jerry Butler is teaching tap dancing.

And of course Traci Lords is still trying to be...  Traci Lords.  B-movie actress and failed singer.  And interestingly enough, when the scandal about her age broke, some of her movies were recut to remove her, and instead scenes of Ginger Lynn were added.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Like, BARF ME OUT! GAG ME WITH A SPOON!

That recent photo of...Ginger...makes me want to ask somebody to...NO, to DEMAND that somebody pass the barf bucket...IMMEDIATELY!  If I were a porn star, I'd go into retirement at about the age of 40, and I'd get a brand new career, and I'd bill myself as a completely different TYPE of person, saying, "Yea, I WAS 'Candy Fresh Kiss'...about 10 years ago, but NOW, I'm your local Avon lady!"

I mean...REALLY!
:o


It's like after your porn career is over you either wind up gaining weight, increase your boob size, get botox, face lifts, wrinkles, change hairstyle, lose hair or color your hair.

And a lot of porn actresses have become sex ed teachers teaching sex to students from all over the world.

It's like after your porn career is over you either wind up gaining weight, increase your boob size, get botox, face lifts, wrinkles, change hairstyle, lose hair or color your hair.


Or get all of them at once.

http://i.perezhilton.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/aron-ali-and-hayes__oPt.jpg

Traci Lords.  B-movie actress and failed singer.


That's kind of a shame about the singing career.

krJyC51Oz44

Couldn't act worth a damn (which didn't matter during her cameo on Married with Children), and yes, she cashed in on her name when she did the music thing, but I'm bummed that the music thing didn't work out.  1995's 1000 Fires and 2001's Last Drag were solid tracks.  File it along with one-album-wonders like Rachel Stevens' post-"S Club" solo career.

That's kind of a shame about the singing career.

Couldn't act worth a damn (which didn't matter during her cameo on Married with Children), and yes, she cashed in on her name when she did the music thing, but I'm bummed that the music thing didn't work out.  1995's 1000 Fires and 2001's Last Drag were solid tracks.  File it along with one-album-wonders like Rachel Stevens' post-"S Club" solo career.


Actually, I remember her singing when she was still a porn actress!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wSgXG2_t0s

Fast forward until 10 and 21 minutes in the movie, and you will hear her singing without all of the techno wizardry she had in her later career.  I remember my roomie renting this one night in the barracks (I owned a BETAMAX), and we both laughed at how serious she seemed to be when singing, and how horrible she was at it.  Of course at that time nobody was paying her to sing.

Actually, I remember her singing when she was still a porn actress!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wSgXG2_t0s

Fast forward until 10 and 21 minutes in the movie, and you will hear her singing without all of the techno wizardry she had in her later career.  I remember my roomie renting this one night in the barracks (I owned a BETAMAX), and we both laughed at how serious she seemed to be when singing, and how horrible she was at it.  Of course at that time nobody was paying her to sing.


http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110704151759/gyropedia/images/3/33/Pinkiehowhorriffying.png

For a generic new wave cover band, the music's actually not that atrocious, but because autotune hadn't been invented yet, let the record show that she needed at least another 10 years of coaching to get that larynx into shape.  (Wait, I phrased that even more horrifyingly, didn't I?)

let the record show that she needed at least another 10 years of coaching to get that larynx into shape. 

We are talking Traci Lords, not Linda Lovelace.  8)

And yea, I have heard some bands that were similar, but they never made it beyond "Slow bar Wednesday night" bookings.  Unless of course they had some kind of hook, like The Beat Farmers or GWAR.

I bet that if you took away all the technowizardry and effects and could hear her raw voice, it probably has not changed much.

That's kind of a shame about the singing career.

krJyC51Oz44

Couldn't act worth a damn (which didn't matter during her cameo on Married with Children), and yes, she cashed in on her name when she did the music thing, but I'm bummed that the music thing didn't work out.  1995's 1000 Fires and 2001's Last Drag were solid tracks.  File it along with one-album-wonders like Rachel Stevens' post-"S Club" solo career.


She was better in porn.

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Which porno movie has the best soundtrack ever?
8)

Like, Hi, Fer Shurr,

Which porno movie has the best soundtrack ever?
8)


Well, I can actually think of two.

One is "Inner Blues", from 1990.  It features a band which got some club play in Hollywood known as "Gutz", and had a pretty decent sound track, based upon a story similar to "A Star Is Born".

http://cdn3b.dvdempire.org/products/97/1097197h.jpg

The other is from 1977, "Young Hot 'n Nasty Teenage Cruisers".

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i33/tintarchive/dvdm/teenagecruisersbandw.jpg

And for this movie they even released an album:

http://blog.hummingburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/teenage.jpg

The movie was basically an adult version of American Graffiti, and actually featured some known Rockabilly performers like Ray Campi (performed with Buddy Holly, Bill Haley and Gene Vincent), Billy Zoom (founder of punk band "X"), and The Blasters (featuring Gene Taylor, and performed with Black Flag, The Cramps, and Dwight Yoakam).  This movie really did have a sound track worth having, especially if you are into early punk and rockabilly.

Did you see Caligula?  ???

Did you see Caligula?  ???


Yea, actually I did.  Mostly because I loved Malcolm McDowell.  It was not all that great, bears about as much link to reality as "Gladiator" does.

Yea, actually I did.  Mostly because I loved Malcolm McDowell.  It was not all that great, bears about as much link to reality as "Gladiator" does.


Wasn't it supposed to be a historical film?

Wasn't it supposed to be a historical film?


With Bob Guccione, the founder of Penthouse Magazine as producer?

Are there any porn actresses you don't like?

Are there any porn actresses you don't like?

In the modern era?  Pretty much all of them, because very few can actually "act" anymore.  Nowadays, acting not required, just screw on camera and looking good.

Of the older ones, I have to admit that Vanessa Del Rio was one I never liked.  If I saw her name up on the marque, I would likely keep going.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Vanessa_Del_Rio_00061222_crop.jpg


Why does Vanessa Del Rio now resemble one of those mob boss wives you see on those reality shows?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Vanessa_Del_Rio_00061222_crop.jpg


Why does Vanessa Del Rio now resemble one of those mob boss wives you see on those reality shows?


She always reminded me of a streetwalker who had simply walked off the street and made it in porn simply because she would do anything asked.  And yes, she actually was a hooker before she got in the business.

The quick progression after I left home at 16 was keypunch operator to computer programmer to waitress to barmaid to go-go dancer to streetwalker to call girl to PORN STAR! Woohoooo!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/an-interview-with-vanessa_n_565182.html

When you had so many classy actresses of the era, she always just struck me as dirty and nasty.  And with that career progression, makes me wonder what the problem was.  Computer programmer to waitress?  And that was the era where a programmer could literally write their own ticket, demand was high and supply was limited.  I would suspect drugs myself.

She always reminded me of a streetwalker who had simply walked off the street and made it in porn simply because she would do anything asked.  And yes, she actually was a hooker before she got in the business.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/05/an-interview-with-vanessa_n_565182.html

When you had so many classy actresses of the era, she always just struck me as dirty and nasty.  And with that career progression, makes me wonder what the problem was.  Computer programmer to waitress?  And that was the era where a programmer could literally write their own ticket, demand was high and supply was limited.  I would suspect drugs myself.


Wow I never knew she was Latina. :o

Her name is Rio and she dances on my gland...
:D

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lpiDRDaH-mU/S-Nj6gmMjxI/AAAAAAAASJI/QMq7O0pONl8/s1600/WITH+VANESSA.JPG


Why does she look like Big Ang's twin sister, you see any resemblance?

Her name is Rio and she dances on my gland...
:D


OUCH!

Has there ever been any porn bloopers?

Has there ever been any porn bloopers?


Actually there have been several.

Some movies like "The G Spot" put them in the end credits.  And I saw a documentary several years ago about the industry that included quite a few (including 1 scene that had 5 different actors involved until they got it right).

I can't think of any at the moment, but I know I have seen quite a few over the years, often times in the end credits.

What is your favorite sex comedy?

Do porn actors get to pick their partners?

What happens if one of them "finishes" prematurely?

Sorry if these are repeats.

Question: Did Tony Danza ever do a porn film? I heard he did.