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Subject: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: Echo Nomad on 10/09/06 at 5:27 pm
Beat and Boomer Gen Xrs?
To add further fuel to the debate on what is Gen X, Gen Y, etc, I'll share something I just found a few days ago. Turns out that the earliest (that I've found) usage of the term Gen X was applied to teenagers in 1952! Below is the article from Word origins.com with a second origins article from Wikipedia.
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From Word Origins.com http://www.wordorigins.org/Words/LetterG/generationx.html
Generation X
The term Generation X is much older than those that are usually assumed to belong to it. Generation X is a lost or disaffected cohort of youths; the X is a reference to the algebraic term for an unknown quantity. In recent years it has been applied to those coming of age in the 1980s and 1990s, the children of the Baby Boomers, although the term is much older than this generation.
It dates to 1952 and originally applied to the youth of that period. From Holiday magazine of December of that year:
What, you may well ask, is Generation X?. . . These are the youngsters who have seen and felt the agonies of the past two decades . . . , who are trying to keep their balance in the swirling pressures of today, and who will have the biggest say in the course of history for the next 50 years.
Usage in reference to the post-Baby Boom generation dates to at least 1989, when the Toronto Star of 24 February had this to say:
What if this Generation X turns around collectively and comes to the conclusion they can't sit around waiting, and instead . . . start their own businesses.
That same article coined the term Generation Xer for a member of Generation X:
The other possibility . . . is that the Generation X-ers will cope by changing their goals or changing their behavior.
Credit for the coinage of Generation X is often mistakenly given to Douglas Coupland's 1991 novel of that title, but while Coupland did much to popularize the term, he did not coin it.
(Source: Oxford English Dictionary, New Edition)
Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_X
The history of the term
The term was first used in a 1964 study of British youth by Jane Deverson. Initially, Deverson was asked by the editor of the magazine Woman's Own to conduct a series of interviews with teenagers of the time. The study revealed teenagers who "sleep together before they are married, don't believe in God, dislike the Queen and don't respect parents", which was deemed unsuitable for the magazine because it was a new phenomenon. Deverson, in an attempt to save her research, worked with Hollywood correspondent Charles Hamblett to create a book about the study. Hamblett decided to name it Generation X.
In 1976, the phrase was picked up as the name of a punk rock band featuring Billy Idol, which released three albums before disbanding in 1981. However the term Generation X was used to describe the early British punks more generally with their nihilism, rejection of earlier generations' values and the feeling that they were a lost generation that meant nothing to society, and vice versa. The term Generation X was later popularized in 1991 when Douglas Coupland's popular novel Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture was published. Coupland took the X from Paul Fussell's 1983 book Class, where the term "class Y" designated a region of America's social hierarchy, rather than a generation. However, this term has transcended its roots in that country and expanded into other areas of the West.
Coupland first wrote of Generation X in September, 1987 (Vancouver magazine, "Generation X", pp. 164-169, 194: see illustrations below), which was a precursor to the novel and slightly preceded the term "twentysomething". The main character Kevin, 25, is a Canadian "trailing edge" baby boomer who denies cohort affiliation with his older sister, 34, and friends, all boomers. Kevin and his cohorts are all over-educated, under-employed, and pay skyrocketing living expenses, which forces some to move back home to live with their parents (that is, boomerang). Unlike boomers, they were too young to march for peace (Vietnam protests ended with the draft in 1973 with protestors typically aged 16-25) and either were not born or were too young to recall Kennedy's assassination in 1963 (long term memory starting at age 5). Coupland referred to those born from 1958 to 1966 in Canada, or 1958 to 1964 in the United States. As the term Generation X later became somewhat interchangeable with "twentysomething", he later revised his notion of Generation X to include anyone considered as "twentysomething" in the years 1987 to 1991.
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Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: PMS on 10/12/06 at 5:30 pm
I have long suspected that I am more of a Gen Xr than a baby boomer. I was born in 1959.
Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: Echo Nomad on 10/14/06 at 12:01 am
Basically you fall into the Coupland description of what Gen X is. Inside the book "Generation X, Tales of an accelerated culture- it says it for those born in the late 50's thru the 60's. Basically what it is really known today as Gen Jones.
Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: hot_wax on 10/16/06 at 2:29 pm
hey, all you guys who fall into these catagories, take a little of advice and put it on top of your priority list, START SAVING YOUR MONEY...NOW. old age creeps up on you quicker then you realize and retirement on social sercurity alone won't be an option for anyone born in the 80's on up. start a 401 now at work asap and if possible invest into other money saving vehicles...that's all.
Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: Marty McFly on 10/16/06 at 8:02 pm
Beat and Boomer Gen Xrs?
To add further fuel to the debate on what is Gen X, Gen Y, etc, I'll share something I just found a few days ago. Turns out that the earliest (that I've found) usage of the term Gen X was applied to teenagers in 1952! Below is the article from Word origins.com with a second origins article from Wikipedia.
Interesting articles, I didn't know about that before.
If the present was 1952, I guess that would apply to people born about 1935-1940? I do think around 1937 is the beginning of the "rock"/'50s teen generation, since they'd be the first to be under 18 or in high school when rock and roll got popular around 1954/55.
Also, Elvis was born in 1935 so it sorta makes sense.
Although it only shares the same name as what we call Gen X (1964-1980 born or so), not the characteristics.
Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: Brian06 on 10/16/06 at 9:36 pm
I wouldn't take anything in wikipedia too seriously.
Subject: Re: The Oldest Gen Xrs?
Written By: Echo Nomad on 01/05/07 at 12:14 am
Actually the bit about Gen X being applied to teenagers of the early 50's wasn't from Wikipedia, it was from a website called "Word Origins". But the term has was also applied to first wave British Babyboomers in 1964 in a book by Jane Deverson. Douglass Coupland in 1990 then applied the term to those born in late 50's through the 60's, which is stated in the book jacket cover.