I am a big fan of Mama Cass and regret that she left us at such a young age. Anyone else a fan ?
Any plans of any films about the M's & P's being worked on ? ~  8) :)

I was watching Biography last night which was about her. She was very carismatic and had a wonderful voice. Two things that really stuck me in that show: 1). Friends and family were very upset about the rumor that she died chocking on a ham sandwich-when in fact, she died of a heart attack. 2). Her daughter was saying when she is in the car with the radio on, and one of Cass' songs comes on (whether with the Mama & the Papas or solo), she turns to her daughter and says, "That's your grandmother."  I thought that was sweet.


Haven't heard anything about a movie in the works, though.



Cat

Cass and I have the same birthday.  :)

I was watching Biography last night which was about her. She was very carismatic and had a wonderful voice. Two things that really stuck me in that show: 1). Friends and family were very upset about the rumor that she died chocking on a ham sandwich-when in fact, she died of a heart attack.

Always a sloppy piece of rumour-mongering, that...I think she was Jewish, so why on Earth she'd be eating a ham sandwich...(!)

She met her end in Harry Nilsson's flat in London - rather gruesomely, this was also the flat where Keith Moon departed some years later...

2). Her daughter was saying when she is in the car with the radio on, and one of Cass' songs comes on (whether with the Mama & the Papas or solo), she turns to her daughter and says, "That's your grandmother."  I thought that was sweet.

Lovely! Although never groundbreaking, the M&P's choice of material, performances and arrangements were, almost without fail, spot-on...


Haven't heard anything about a movie in the works, though.



Cat


Neither have I (it would make for interesting viewing...), but I gather there is to be a four-CD retrospective set in the pipeline - possibly over-egging the pudding, but well-deserved in a way...

I loved her voice as well as her kind heart...I am a fan :)

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I wonder where she'd be if she was alive today?  ???
She would've been 63 Years old.


Howard

Cass and I have the same birthday.  :)



I also have the same birthday as Teena Marie & Andy Gibb. :)


Howard

Howard - great picture of her ! Yes, CatWoman, I saw the show about her on Biography and it was really wonderful to learn more about her. She had a very interesting short life.

I remember her song "Different" from the H.R. PuffnStuff soundtrack albumn I had when I was a kid. It was cool to see a clip of that on the Bio show. Brought back a lot of childhood memories.

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Do you think Marissa Janet Winokur would portray a good Mama Cass Elliott in a movie if they ever made one?  ???



Howard

http://www.travellady.com/Issues/May04/Images/1%20HairsprayMarissaco.jpg


Do you think Marissa Janet Winokur would portray a good Mama Cass Elliott in a movie if they ever made one?  ???



Howard


Oh, yeah, Howard...now that you mention it - she would probably be very good. I think Cass was taller, though, not sure, but for known actors, I think she'd do well. Plus, she can sing.

Oh, yeah, Howard...now that you mention it - she would probably be very good. I think Cass was taller, though, not sure, but for known actors, I think she'd do well. Plus, she can sing.


Let's hope she can sing California Dreaming & their other hits. :)



Howard

Off topic-just a bit.

Many, many years ago, I was doing a show with the college I was attending. We went around to local high schools and elementary schools. At one high school, we had just finished the show and was packing up after the school day ended. We were in the auditorium when this vocal group came onto the stage to rehearse. There were two girls and two boys and they sang California Dreamin' and man, were they GREAT!!! They did it almost as well as the Mamas and the Papas. I have no idea who those kids were but they really left an impression on me.


Ok, back to topic.




Cat

dream a little dream was my favourite....or is this just me ?

it seems this song copped alot of sh*t from alot of the critics in the music world...it's got me ?  :-\\   ...but then i like something that sounds differant and catchy...even my 14 y.o son liked it...( till he found out i did as well ) lol. 

Would she have still been with The Mamas and Papas if she hadn't died from a heart attack?  ???



Howard

Would she have still been with The Mamas and Papas if she hadn't died from a heart attack?  ???



Howard



The Mamas and the Papas broke up BEFORE she died and her solo carreer was up and coming.



Cat

The Mamas and the Papas broke up BEFORE she died and her solo carreer was up and coming.



Cat



Would she have made a good sounding Disco diva by any chance? ???



Howard

Would she have still been with The Mamas and Papas if she hadn't died from a heart attack?  ???

Howard


For what it is worth, The Mamas and the Papas "broke up" very shortly after they hit the big time.  They continued to record, but they basically hated each other's guts by then and the magic was gone.  Why?  Here is the short version:

Michelle Phillips was married to John Phillips

..but..

Michelle was also sleeping with Denny Dougherty.

...which...

Made John mad at both Michelle and Denny

...and...

Also made Cass mad at Michelle because Cass had a crush on Denny

...Then...

Cass proposed marriage to Denny and Denny blew her off.

So in recap:

1. John was mad at Michelle
2. Cass was mad at Michelle
3. John was mad at Denny
4. Cass was fed up with Denny
5. Michelle and Denny were off-limits to each other

...which left John and Cass as the only two people who were not bent out of shape at each other in some way.

At one point they actually fired Michelle from the band and hired a "lookalike" who proved to be a dud.  So they hired Michelle back but it was too late.  Toothpaste was out of the tube.

For what it is worth, The Mamas and the Papas "broke up" very shortly after they hit the big time.  They continued to record, but they basically hated each other's guts by then and the magic was gone.  Why?  Here is the short version:

Michelle Phillips was married to John Phillips

..but..

Michelle was also sleeping with Denny Dougherty.

...which...

Made John mad at both Michelle and Denny

...and...

Also made Cass mad at Michelle because Cass had a crush on Denny

...Then...

Cass proposed marriage to Denny and Denny blew her off.

So in recap:

1. John was mad at Michelle
2. Cass was mad at Michelle
3. John was mad at Denny
4. Cass was fed up with Denny
5. Michelle and Denny were off-limits to each other

...which left John and Cass as the only two people who were not bent out of shape at each other in some way.

At one point they actually fired Michelle from the band and hired a "lookalike" who proved to be a dud.  So they hired Michelle back but it was too late.  Toothpaste was out of the tube.



So,they all had a lot of relationship grudges from what you had wrote LB. ::)


Howard

So,they all had a lot of relationship grudges from what you had wrote LB. ::)


Howard


Yes.  Any by the time that Cass died, she had already been gone from the group for a couple of years.  (Mamas and Papas tried to go on after she left, but it ended very quickly after that).  More twists and turns than even Fleetwood Mac.

When Cass went solo, she also hated the "Mama" designation and tried hard for people to stop calling her "Mama Cass".  She wanted to be known for her OWN talent, which was great.  8)

Yes.  Any by the time that Cass died, she had already been gone from the group for a couple of years.  (Mamas and Papas tried to go on after she left, but it ended very quickly after that).  More twists and turns than even Fleetwood Mac.

When Cass went solo, she also hated the "Mama" designation and tried hard for people to stop calling her "Mama Cass".  She wanted to be known for her OWN talent, which was great.  8)



Couldn't they have just be at peace without grabbing at each other's throats? ???


Howard

Couldn't they have just be at peace without grabbing at each other's throats? ???


Howard


Well, at least two of them (Cass and John) were drug addicts too.  When you throw drugs into the mix, all heck breaks loose.  And they were not just smoking a little weed.  They were doing nasty stuff like LSD and H.  :P :-\\

dream a little dream was my favourite....or is this just me ?



I love that song too :)

I love that song too :)


As do I.  :)

I totally remember the day MAMA CASS died and the story on the news.....it was so sad.  
:-ever.....

For what it is worth, The Mamas and the Papas "broke up" very shortly after they hit the big time.  They continued to record, but they basically hated each other's guts by then and the magic was gone.  Why?  Here is the short version:

Michelle Phillips was married to John Phillips

..but..

Michelle was also sleeping with Denny Dougherty.

...which...

Made John mad at both Michelle and Denny

...and...

Also made Cass mad at Michelle because Cass had a crush on Denny

...Then...

Cass proposed marriage to Denny and Denny blew her off.

So in recap:

1. John was mad at Michelle
2. Cass was mad at Michelle
3. John was mad at Denny
4. Cass was fed up with Denny
5. Michelle and Denny were off-limits to each other

...which left John and Cass as the only two people who were not bent out of shape at each other in some way.

At one point they actually fired Michelle from the band and hired a "lookalike" who proved to be a dud.  So they hired Michelle back but it was too late.  Toothpaste was out of the tube.


LyricBoy,  ;) Thanks for  refreshing our memories with that. Good comprehensive explanation .

I am a huge fan as well. In fact, my cat's name is "Cass".  If I could have a wish come true it would be to go back in time to the 60's and watch the Mama's and Papa's as they were just getting started, in Grenwich Village or in L.A.  I grew up in the 60's and would give anything to go back.

I'm hoping they make a film on her life soon.


Howard

For what it is worth, The Mamas and the Papas "broke up" very shortly after they hit the big time.  They continued to record, but they basically hated each other's guts by then and the magic was gone.  Why?  Here is the short version:

Michelle Phillips was married to John Phillips

..but..

Michelle was also sleeping with Denny Dougherty.

...which...

Made John mad at both Michelle and Denny

...and...

Also made Cass mad at Michelle because Cass had a crush on Denny

...Then...

Cass proposed marriage to Denny and Denny blew her off.

So in recap:

1. John was mad at Michelle
2. Cass was mad at Michelle
3. John was mad at Denny
4. Cass was fed up with Denny
5. Michelle and Denny were off-limits to each other

...which left John and Cass as the only two people who were not bent out of shape at each other in some way.

At one point they actually fired Michelle from the band and hired a "lookalike" who proved to be a dud.  So they hired Michelle back but it was too late.  Toothpaste was out of the tube.


Good summary!  ;D

Can you do other events in history?

they had some really great songs!


Erin :)

Hi, I was wondering if any of you guys could help me???? I am in a high school play and in it i am mama cass.  I have not really heard much about her so i dont really know what she is like.  I was wondering if you guys could tell me what she is like, such as her personality or any special movements she would have done.  If you would help i would be sooooo happy so if you would e-mail me at snuglebuny0592@aol.com

Thanks very much

Hello.
I love her voice since I got a Long Play of M&P in 97 (I was 17). And since I enter the WWW I've been searching M&P and Cass lyrics. I already have many but some are very hard to find. Would anyone know the lyrics of "Welcome to the World"?

Tks a lot ;)

http://www.staleywise.com/collection/schatzberg/schatz_flower_b.jpg

All of a sudden, I have an intense craving for a ham sandwich! :D

^that was really inappropriate.





Erin

^that was really inappropriate.

Erin


Maybe it's things like 1997's "Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery" keeping it alive.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=elli&GSfn=cass&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=319&pt=Cass%20Elliot&

That is a great picture of her, Pennylane.  She was beautiful.

That is a great picture of her, Pennylane.  She was beautiful.



I agree!



Erin :)

dream a little dream was my favourite....or is this just me ?

it seems this song copped alot of sh*t from alot of the critics in the music world...it's got me ?  :-\\   ...but then i like something that sounds differant and catchy...even my 14 y.o son liked it...( till he found out i did as well ) lol. 


Just before I got to your post I was singing this to myself....one of my favorites, too.